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Imposing Weight-Loss Guidelines: Another Function of ObamaCare?
Forbes ^ | May 20, 2013 | Glenn G. Lammi

Posted on 05/20/2013 1:00:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The federal Affordable Care Act, better known as “ObamaCare,” may provide activists and government a little-known wedge to advance their obesity agendas through regulated health-care providers — specifically America’s nearly 3,000 non-profit hospitals. One organization, The STOP Obesity Alliance, recently identified this wedge as a way to have such hospitals embrace its core convictions, including one principle which questions the role of personal responsibility as a cause and a solution to obesity.

Community Health Needs Assessments. Section 9007 of the Act requires non-profit hospitals, as a condition of maintaining their tax-exempt status, to conduct Community Health Needs Assessments (CHNAs). These documents, which must be filed with the IRS, will demonstrate the health needs of the hospitals’ local communities and explain how hospitals are meeting those needs. One assessment of CHNAs likened them to banks’ responsibilities under the Community Reinvestment Act, in the sense that the documents might be used as tools by activists to prompt agreements or actions. It’s likely the STOP alliance understood this when it made its “recommendations.”

STOP’s Recommendations. The STOP Obesity Alliance “strongly encourages nonprofit hospitals to overcome and prevent obesity on the following core principles.” On balance, the coalition’s principles are laudable (encourage physical activity, encourage best practices, address and reduce stigma). One recommendation — that CHNAs use a “sustained loss of five to ten percent of current weight” as a barometer to successful weight reduction — may be troublesome for hospitals. If hospitals incorporate such a specific goal into their CHNAs, and their patients don’t achieve such consistent weight loss, that could provide STOP and other advocates with the clear data they need to oppose continued non-profit status at the IRS or with a potent stick to prod hospitals to certain actions.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: food; guidelines; health; healthcare; hospitals; nannystate; nonprofits; nutrition; obamacare; obesity; stopobesityalliance; weightloss

1 posted on 05/20/2013 1:00:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 05/20/2013 1:00:44 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

gonna love it when the obama voter find out ... LOL ... could be a revolt of the fat or the fat could be thrown around.


3 posted on 05/20/2013 1:02:31 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Obese people will be required to report to obesity-education camps where they will recite poems honoring Dear Leader.
4 posted on 05/20/2013 1:02:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("“Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." Dr. Ben Carson)
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missing two s’s this time. dang speelllinnng.
5 posted on 05/20/2013 1:03:20 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What’s the time? obama voters can plead they were prisoners of doubt ... they filled in the blank under ignorance and thought they check none of the above.


6 posted on 05/20/2013 1:05:42 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

EVERYTHING about your life will “have and effect on the healthcare system”,

and therefore subject to regulation.


7 posted on 05/20/2013 1:05:48 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

All your menus are belong to Big Brother.


8 posted on 05/20/2013 1:06:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Caucasian Obese people will be required to report to obesity-education camps where they will recite poems honoring Dear Leader. (slight modification)
9 posted on 05/20/2013 1:08:09 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Who’s gonna whip Barack into shape, so he can benchpress a buck and quarter?


10 posted on 05/20/2013 1:10:02 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
How many "People of WalMart" voted for Obama?


11 posted on 05/20/2013 1:10:02 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If you don’t want to have to navigate the terrible future of Obamacare, you may want to lose weight and get healthy as you can, because they will deny any of us Conservatives any help for the good of the “children”...

This will blow back on them like all of the other scandals that will drag the Obummer administration to it’s knees.


12 posted on 05/20/2013 1:11:15 PM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

People don’t realize what they’ve asked for, and I’m going to enjoy watching them get it.

I didn’t read the bill, but I know how communists work. This is coming. Make no mistake, Obamacare is law, and won’t be overturned.

Physicals will be mandatory. Not going will result in increased rates, fines, and eventually exclusion from Obamacare.

Doctor’s recommendations will no longer be suggestions, they will be orders. Failure to comply will result in increased rates, fines, and eventually exclusion.

I can’t wait until those fat b*st*rds living in mom’s basement, blogging for Obama, get the business end of Obamacare. The cries will be like music to my ears.


13 posted on 05/20/2013 1:11:34 PM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: COBOL2Java

She’d be a great “run stopper” with that low center of gravity.


14 posted on 05/20/2013 1:12:53 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: MrB

“EVERYTHING about your life will “have and effect on the healthcare system”,

Except being a homosexual.


15 posted on 05/20/2013 1:13:41 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks


16 posted on 05/20/2013 1:15:23 PM PDT by Slyfox (The red face of shame is proof that the conscience is still operational.)
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To: no-to-illegals

gonna love it when the obama voter find out ... LOL ... could be a revolt of the fat or the fat could be thrown around.

What you mean we can’t buy ding dongs and ho hos with my EBT card anymore....


17 posted on 05/20/2013 1:18:06 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Everyone who is NOT an elitist will recieve a caloric ration card, much like a debit card, to be presented anywhere u buy food. When that is met for the month, time for some mandatory weight loss. Based upon an adults mandatory 1,800 daily caloric intake, you will be alotted 11,100 calories a month.


18 posted on 05/20/2013 1:21:11 PM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m 5’10” and 260lbs as of this AM.

Looking at their BMI charts, I’m moribundly obese.

An on again/off again gym-rat I could tie most doctors, not to mention politicians, in knots with my bare hands.

According to the governments numbers, in order to not be considered “dangerously fat”, I need to get down to 183. I could probably lose 20 lbs, but almost 80?

Maybe if they amputate both of my legs...


19 posted on 05/20/2013 1:21:37 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

who’s got a War on Women NOW???


20 posted on 05/20/2013 1:26:49 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: CrazyIvan

Because the real “target” is Christianity.
And homos are a great spear point for criminalizing Christianity.


21 posted on 05/20/2013 1:29:38 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Dead Corpse

Remember, this is coming from the party who had the slogan that no one should come between you and your doctor.


22 posted on 05/20/2013 1:45:03 PM PDT by aimhigh (Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"Whatchoo mean I gotta loose fitty pound? I hain't gonna do dat no way no how! Doanchoo take my phone!"

23 posted on 05/20/2013 2:01:05 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (WHO IS ON THE ENEMIES LIST?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A simpler and probably legal solution - modifying food stamps to limit food purchases like WIC. You only get fresh fruit, vegetables, low fat milk, low fat cheese and healthy items. No more junk food or pre-prepared food. Given that 20% of households receive food stamps, and poverty correlates to obesity, this type of change could be made in the name of both health and cost savings.


24 posted on 05/20/2013 2:09:01 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2
You obviously don't understand that the purpose of SNAP is to hand out as many taxpayer dollars as possible to anybody who is not actually eligible for them.
25 posted on 05/20/2013 2:20:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("“Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

or be forced to exercise to Richard Simmons videos......


26 posted on 05/20/2013 2:48:43 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: tbw2

Fine and smart idea. I can hear the complaining already.


27 posted on 05/20/2013 2:58:34 PM PDT by polymuser ("We have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!" (HRC))
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To: Dead Corpse

I’m with you. I’m 6’3” and 274 lbs this morning. I bench press 495, ride a couple hundred miles per week on my bike and eat no carbs or wheat products. Yet, I’m morbidly obese according to the BMI charts. Go figure!?!?!

I read an article last week that indicated that waist / height ratio is a more effective gauge of proper weight than the dumb BMI. It indicated that your waist should be no more than 50% of you height. Makes sense to me, and is quite generous in the proportions - IMO.


28 posted on 05/20/2013 3:23:02 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Permission to starve old farts in hospital.


29 posted on 05/20/2013 6:09:04 PM PDT by expat2
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To: RobertClark

Leg night tonight. Warm up squats started at 285... Stopped at 425. Still working through a bad knee...

Did do another 100 broomhandle squats, curls, toe-raisers, leg-extensions, and lunges. Always hard to make it up the stairs after a good session. ;-)


30 posted on 05/20/2013 6:41:46 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When are they going to reinstate sodomy laws or laws against adultery? Surely the government is going to enforce monogamy, because promiscuity is a burden to the health care system.


31 posted on 05/20/2013 7:10:33 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: no-to-illegals

They voted to be a ward of the state. It’s not very complicated government is paying for your health care, your housing. Their money their rules. Or more accurately our money and our rules. Drop the Chalupa.

Or they can leave their parents basement and Obama’s plantation. And grow up.


32 posted on 05/20/2013 7:52:25 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; tbw2

That’s fine with me and every other taxpayer. You are relying on somebody else to feed you. Remember the old line that your mom and dad told you. Our house our rules. Now shut up and eat your veggies.

Have at it with your menu. Let them eat brussels sprouts.

Just leave freedom loving people alone.


33 posted on 05/20/2013 7:56:43 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

yep, it is gonna sizzle when the fat goes into the fire.


34 posted on 05/20/2013 7:58:26 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Just leave freedom loving people alone.

Congratulations. You are now on the DOJ terrorist watch list. If you want to get to the top, just use the word "constitution."

35 posted on 05/20/2013 7:59:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("“Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


36 posted on 05/20/2013 8:11:19 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: All

There will have to be a racial component to this because it will never work.


37 posted on 05/20/2013 8:13:44 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

>The STOP Obesity Alliance “strongly encourages nonprofit hospitals to overcome and prevent obesity on the following core principles.” On balance, the coalition’s principles are laudable (encourage physical activity, encourage best practices, address and reduce stigma). One recommendation — that CHNAs use a “sustained loss of five to ten percent of current weight” as a barometer to successful weight reduction<

Let me get this straight. Some bean counters decided, in order to “prevent” obesity, to make losing 10% of an individual’s current weight a demand?? What if the person is 23, 5’2’ and weighs 110????


38 posted on 05/20/2013 8:38:51 PM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If Jesus could suffer and die on a cross, the DOJ is nothing.

The sheeple/fellow citizens/publik serpents in charge will change.


39 posted on 05/20/2013 8:41:00 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

40 posted on 05/20/2013 8:41:14 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Alamo-Girl

Alamo-girl, can you do me a favor and replace your “thanks for the ping” to a different one. Not that I don’t love it.:-)

Just respond with: “coercing citizens to eat right, excercize and quit smoking is NOT a legitimate gubmint function. Unless they are paying for your healthcare costs.”


41 posted on 05/20/2013 8:55:33 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Well said, dear Eric Blair 2084!


42 posted on 05/20/2013 9:11:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: brownsfan
I can’t wait until those fat b*st*rds living in mom’s basement, blogging for Obama, get the business end of Obamacare. The cries will be like music to my ears.

I will also be there, to taste their salty tears. Yeah, baby!


43 posted on 05/21/2013 6:25:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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