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Do white people have a future in South Africa?
BBC News ^ | 19 May 2013 | By John Simpson

Posted on 05/19/2013 7:18:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Apartheid South Africa looked after white people and nobody else. Now some of its white communities face a level of deprivation, or of violence, which threatens their future in the country.

Everyone here, regardless of colour, tells you that white people are still riding high.

They run the economy. They have a disproportionate amount of influence in politics and the media. They still have the best houses and most of the best jobs.

All of this is true but it is not the only picture.

Look below the surface and you will find poverty and a sense of growing vulnerability.

The question I have come to South Africa to answer is whether white people genuinely have a future here.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Do white people have a future in South Africa The United States?

Ask that question again in three years when Barry has finished with us. Apparently millions of jobless white people are not oppressed enough.

41 posted on 05/19/2013 8:41:19 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I agree. Blacks in Africa are incapable of governing themselves in any peaceful or rational manner.


42 posted on 05/19/2013 8:46:49 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Bernard Marx

The speech was given by Governor Lamm at the 2004 Immigration-Overpopulation Conference in Washington, D.C.

He titled it “A Plan to Destroy America.”

AMERICAN SUICIDE
Wherever you stand, please take the time to read this; it ought to scare the pants off you!

We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado (Democrat). In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Recently there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of America’s finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by
the name of Victor Davis Hansen talked about his latest book, “Mexifornia,” explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, “If you believe that America is too smug, too
self-satisfied, too rich, then let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that ‘An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.’”

“Here is how they do it,” Lamm said: “First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country.” History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures It is a blessing for an individual to
be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: “The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.” Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of
national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficult times with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.”

Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, “Invent ‘multiculturalism’ and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, “We could make the United States an ‘Hispanic Quebec’ without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: “The apparent success of our own multi ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.”

Lamm said, “I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would! replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.”

“Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.”

“My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of ‘Victimology.’ I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.”

“My sixth plan for America’s downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other- that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same Gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. ! Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. “E. Pluribus Unum” — from many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the ‘Pluribus’ instead of the ‘Unum,’ we will balkanize America assuredly as Kosovo.”

“Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of ‘diversity.’ I would find a word similar to ‘heretic’ in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like ‘racist’ or ‘xenophobe’ halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bi-lingual/bicultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of ‘victimology,’ I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.”

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, “Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis’s book “Mexifornia.” His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don’t read that book.”

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate ‘diversity.’ American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell’s book “1984.” In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: “War is peace,” “Freedom is slavery,” and “Ignorance is strength.”

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don’t get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream. If you care for and love our country as I do, take the time to pass this on just as I did for you


43 posted on 05/19/2013 9:02:27 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Not while violent, black, racist socialists (ANC) are in power.

Get the hell out before they kill you, or if you’re a white woman, rape and/or kill you.


44 posted on 05/19/2013 9:06:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Apartheid South Africa looked after SOME white people. Not all of them. Plenty whites got nothing from the apartheid government.


45 posted on 05/19/2013 9:07:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes.

And it’s about time all the rest of the folks here knew it.


46 posted on 05/19/2013 9:08:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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No one has a future in South Africa. It is well on the way to becoming a vast socialist slum.


47 posted on 05/19/2013 9:52:30 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Godwin1
It (South Africa) is well on the way to becoming a vast murderous socialist slum where being white will be as dangerous as a longtailed tom in a room full of rocking chairs.
48 posted on 05/19/2013 9:54:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

No, and South Africa doesn’t have a chance.


49 posted on 05/19/2013 11:13:37 PM PDT by pallis
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To: MinorityRepublican

Not a good omen:

http://ajkraad.wix.com/genocide-museum


50 posted on 05/20/2013 1:32:29 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: B4Ranch

Good post, coincides with your tagline very well. Bookmarking.


51 posted on 05/20/2013 1:48:40 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Lurker

Yes, they do. Visit Orania.


52 posted on 05/20/2013 2:47:18 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Progressive strategy: divide and conquer.


55 posted on 05/20/2013 2:55:26 AM PDT by HoneysuckleRose
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don’t think DECENT people of ANY race have a future in South Africa. It’s become a lawless wasteland. Sad.


56 posted on 05/20/2013 7:09:32 AM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Racial aspects aside, if a group of people set up a colony amid a group with a different language and culture and treated them brutally for years; would the default be that they had some ‘right’ to continue on with their lives and property and culture intact after the tables had turned?

Did Muslims have a right to keep their political religious and cultural domination in Spain? Did Japan have a right to keep their power over China and Korea?


57 posted on 05/20/2013 7:28:07 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

The Apartheid regime in South Africa was unsustainable. If they held on power, there would probably be a massacre around 1994 or so.


58 posted on 05/20/2013 7:43:39 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Well as a believer in the natural rights of humans to be free, I think any regime that denies such rights (to all or just some of its population) can only be maintained through brutality and massacre.


59 posted on 05/20/2013 7:45:39 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Not to sound like a populist or anything, but the scorn towards poor and working class whites isn't limited to South Africa. It's an almost universal phenomenon. The Left, which used to champion poor and working class whites, has now classified them as the reactionary "antithesis" of history, taking the role formerly played by the bourgeoisie.

Rich and well-to-do whites, for whatever reason, are exempt from the withering scorn visited on poor whites. It's poor whites who are always assumed to be white supremacists, and their poverty is never sympathized with but considered funny.

60 posted on 05/20/2013 7:46:38 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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