Skip to comments.Do white people have a future in South Africa?
Posted on 05/19/2013 7:18:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Apartheid South Africa looked after white people and nobody else. Now some of its white communities face a level of deprivation, or of violence, which threatens their future in the country.
Everyone here, regardless of colour, tells you that white people are still riding high.
They run the economy. They have a disproportionate amount of influence in politics and the media. They still have the best houses and most of the best jobs.
All of this is true but it is not the only picture.
Look below the surface and you will find poverty and a sense of growing vulnerability.
The question I have come to South Africa to answer is whether white people genuinely have a future here.
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No, they don’t.
From what I’ve read, I would say no. It’s probably in their best interest to leave as South Africa follows Zimbabwe/Rhodesia’s lead.
The blacks will be much happier once there are no whites to interfere with them murdering each other.
Do White People have a future in the United States?
It will be Haiti 2.0 before it’s all said and done.
They will just as soon as the multicultural Left finds anti-white racism less fashionable. In short, never.
Same answer for both SA and US.
“Apartheid South Africa looked after white people and nobody else.”
The very first sentence is factually incorrect. South Africa, during Apartheid, enjoyed the highest standard of living than any other Sub-Saharan African nation. That’s why South Africa saw massive black immigration into South Africa even during Apartheid. If Apartheid was truly that bad for blacks, then why were so many blacks immigrating to be part of it?
Also look at the murder rates during Apartheid and thereafter. More whites are killed by blacks in on average year post-Apartheid than blacks who were killed by whites during the entire time of Apartheid. Further, far more blacks are now raped and murdered by other blacks as a sense of anything goes has taken hold post-Apartheid.
The first sentence of the article is a bald faced lie.
During apartheid, Blacks had the highest and best education of any Blacks in Africa. They also had the best medical care and longest life span. In almost any fair comparison, Blacks in South Africa fared better than any other Black nation.
That might explain why so many tried to enter S.A. illegally, fleeing those run by Black Obama types.
Does the name “Custer” mean anything to you?
Only if snowballs don’t melt in hell.
Do white people have a future anywhere in the world?
I watched this video earlier today .....
My sentiments exactly. Unless whitey wakes up, there is no future here. There are just too many low information crackers in this here US of A.
Whites have had 20 years to clean up their business and flee. I feel horrible for those white families who are descendants of the Dutch settlers who, over 300 years ago, developed and farmed what was originally mostly barren wasteland. To watch invaders from other parts of Africa overrun the place, take it over, and then run it into the ground must be heartwrenching.
It’s one thing to see your house on fire and stick around to try to put fire out and save what you can. But it’s something else altogether when the burning rafters are falling down upon your head. It is way past time for whites to get out of that disgusting pisspot. It’s over. The American Democrats and African communists won.
The more important question is to white people have a future in the United States!
It's already here in this country too.
About the same odds as a non-moslem in an islamist country.
Russia and Eastern Europe. They just don't put up with Democrats, pansies, and political correctness there. Anyway, when (some) whites - - even in the former America - - are finally backed into a corner, there will be blood.
Yep. South Africa is in a race to get down to the level of neighbors economically, socially and militarily. The ruling party is massively corrupt, crime rates are skyrocketing and their brand new jet fighters are sitting up on blocks because they can’t afford to fly them. The SA Army just lost 14 soldier in the Central African Republic, which appear to have been there for no other reason than to protect the business interests of the ANC party bosses.
No. Look at Rhodesia. Look at Detroit.
Does anyone have a future in South Africa?
Two words: Hell, NO!
In other words, Little Steven & Paul Simon will not be giving benefit concerts.
America has functioned brilliantly in the past because of belief in free market capitalism, a strong work ethic and a generally unified population (including naturalized citizens from all over the world.) Things started to fall apart when the New Left radicalized racial minorities, feminists and homosexuals, and began to spread the insane ideas that "diversity (instead of unity) is our strength" and that our national treasury could support the entire world via immigration, legal and illegal.
There are many good people who come to the U.S., even illegally, who fully grasp the idea of individual initiative, opportunity and making better lives for themselves. So do many of our citizen minorities including Blacks. Unfortunately too many -- including some of our political elites and hopelessly spoiled, socialist-indoctrinated young people -- just don't grasp the fundamentals that made America rich and powerful. They simplistically see America as the goose that will continue to lay golden eggs forever, with no thought about feeding the goose and making sure it stays in good health.
If Zimbabwe is any indication my guess would be “no”.But I’m not nearly close enough to the situation to be certain.
True...just as they never shed a tear over Jews being driven out of various Middle Eastern countries or over Christians being *currently* driven out of those same countries (or murdered).
Whites should get out while they still have their lives. Racism is a one way street; whites are always guilty.
They’ve largely been disarmed. What do you think?
Die Antwoord’s stuff is like watching a train wreck.
Study up on 1800’s global bankers adventures in Africa.
That’s the 19th century, the years 1800-1899.
Learn about the whole cast of international banking characters.
Today will make much more sense.
Reverting to tribalism themselves, I guess it should have been anticipated. It’s violent, in your face, throwing ugly racial stereotypes right back, more than a little psychotic.
The second Lady Gaga spoof actually was good, even striking aesthetically once it got rolling but still very disturbed and very disturbing. Very colorful but very dark.
A lot of verys there. It’ll be a very violent thing if remaining white youth turn to this. It likely will be eventually anyway, whether they do or they don’t.
Hence the apparent psychosis.
Ask that question again in three years when Barry has finished with us. Apparently millions of jobless white people are not oppressed enough.
I agree. Blacks in Africa are incapable of governing themselves in any peaceful or rational manner.
The speech was given by Governor Lamm at the 2004 Immigration-Overpopulation Conference in Washington, D.C.
He titled it “A Plan to Destroy America.”
Wherever you stand, please take the time to read this; it ought to scare the pants off you!
We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado (Democrat). In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Recently there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of America’s finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by
the name of Victor Davis Hansen talked about his latest book, “Mexifornia,” explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.
Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, “If you believe that America is too smug, too
self-satisfied, too rich, then let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that ‘An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.’”
“Here is how they do it,” Lamm said: “First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country.” History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures It is a blessing for an individual to
be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: “The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.” Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of
national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficult times with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.”
Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, “Invent ‘multiculturalism’ and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.
Third, “We could make the United States an ‘Hispanic Quebec’ without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: “The apparent success of our own multi ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.”
Lamm said, “I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would! replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.”
“Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.”
“My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of ‘Victimology.’ I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population.”
“My sixth plan for America’s downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other- that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same Gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. ! Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. “E. Pluribus Unum” — from many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the ‘Pluribus’ instead of the ‘Unum,’ we will balkanize America assuredly as Kosovo.”
“Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of ‘diversity.’ I would find a word similar to ‘heretic’ in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like ‘racist’ or ‘xenophobe’ halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bi-lingual/bicultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of ‘victimology,’ I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.”
In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, “Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis’s book “Mexifornia.” His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don’t read that book.”
There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate ‘diversity.’ American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell’s book “1984.” In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: “War is peace,” “Freedom is slavery,” and “Ignorance is strength.”
Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don’t get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The American Dream. If you care for and love our country as I do, take the time to pass this on just as I did for you
Not while violent, black, racist socialists (ANC) are in power.
Get the hell out before they kill you, or if you’re a white woman, rape and/or kill you.
Apartheid South Africa looked after SOME white people. Not all of them. Plenty whites got nothing from the apartheid government.
And it’s about time all the rest of the folks here knew it.
No one has a future in South Africa. It is well on the way to becoming a vast socialist slum.
No, and South Africa doesn’t have a chance.
Not a good omen: