Do white people have a future in South Africa?

BBC News ^ | 19 May 2013 | By John Simpson

[Zionist Conspirator]

How many people today are aware that at the turn of the last century the Afrikaners identified with the radical Left? The Boer War was a war against "British capitalism," and the Left supported the Boers full throttle. An Afrikaner legislator once started a riot by standing on his chair and singing The Red Flag.

The apartheid government retained some of the traces of this earlier socialism, but you'll never hear about it because history has been re-written to cast the Left as having always been what it is now (for "people of color" and against "The Man"). But this wasn't always so.

[Wallace T.]

You could make the same argument about the United States, as the entire country was taken from the original inhabitants, who were herded into reservations, mostly on land ill suited for farming or ranching. The major difference between South Africa and America is that millions of Europeans immigrated into this country in the 19th and 20th Centuries, supplementing the descendants of the mostly British colonial settlers. The Afrikaners were not reinforced in a similar matter. British settlers and other Europeans did come, as well as South Asians and others, but remained mostly in the cities, and in nowhere near the numbers as was the case for America.

Those of British descent can often emigrate to the U.K. and othe Commonwealth nations. Indians and Jews have options to return to their ancestral homelands. The Afrikaners are too long removed from the Netherlands (and have considerable German and French ancestry). Other countries, including the U.S., are loathe to accept white refugees due to multiculturalism and white guilt.

The U.S. would be the best fit for the Afrikaners, as the European descended population represents every nation on the ancestral continent. Like the Amish and Mennonites, they would easily fit into rural areas like Indiana or upstate New York where farms once tended by the descendants of early settlers have been abandoned. But this will never happen, even if the GOP recaptures the White House in 2016.

[allmendream]

My statement was this..

“Racial aspects aside, if a group of people set up a colony amid a group with a different language and culture and treated them brutally for years; would the default be that they had some ‘right’ to continue on with their lives and property and culture intact after the tables had turned?”

Note the phrase - “after the tables had turned”.

Do the Turks have a “right” to Anatolia, formerly populated by Greek speaking Byzantines? I don’t think they have any inherent right to it OTHER THAN - that they are in cultural, political, and military control. If a Greek speaking and Greek descended population became dominant again in the region, I would advise the Turks to get the hell out A.S.A.P.. Would I think the Greeks had a “right” to take over Anatolia again? No. But if they did, I wouldn’t think the Turks had the “right” to maintain cultural, economic, religious, or military control.

[ek_hornbeck]

South Africa and Zimbabwe are case studies of where "one man, one vote" leads when you have a third world demographic.

Unfortunately, Americans are following the suicidal example of those African countries thanks to blatantly anti-white policies such as affirmative action, multiculturalism, and unrestricted third world immigration.

[ek_hornbeck]

Condemnations of South African apartheid would hold more water if the alternative was something better. Both the whites and the blacks of South Africa were far better off economically under the apartheid government than they are under the rule of Marxist thugs like Zuma.

[ek_hornbeck]

Racial aspects aside, if a group of people set up a colony amid a group with a different language and culture and treated them brutally for years; would the default be that they had some ‘right’ to continue on with their lives and property and culture intact after the tables had turned?

So following your reasoning, all US whites should leave North America and return to their European homelands, because our ancestors "set up a colony amid a group with a different language and culture" (various Indian tribes)?

[Bernard Marx]

Thanks B4. I've read that speech several times and it's good to see it posted again. I fully believe Leftist politicians, university faculty radicals and popular culture have pushed this "divide and conquer" agenda deliberately, with full knowledge of the result.

When Obama was elected and started his "transform America" talk I posted here that the anti-Americans who power and fund the Left had decided they no longer needed to hide their subversive agenda. I guess they figured they'd indoctrinated enough young skulls full of mush to overpower any traditionalist opposition. We'll see.

[allmendream]

Have the tables turned as far as who is in cultural, religious, economic and military control of these United States?

No. They have not.

We would no more have the right to maintain such control after the tables had turned as the Native Americans had the right to keep North America as the last great refuge of nomadic and horticultural society after a more productive and more efficient and effective way of life came to these shores and REPLACED them.

[ek_hornbeck]

Furthermore, many Afrikaaners settled land that was basically unoccupied. Neither Xhosas nor Zulus were in the western region of the African cape until Afrikaaners introduced the agriculture and infrastructure to make it habitable. So ironically, many of the white south Africans have deeper roots on their land than the Xhosa squatters, at least in the western part of the country.

[JimRed]

Leave it to the natives; move back in when they’ve starved and killed each other off.

[Wallace T.]

Basically the Afrikaners lost control of their country after partially regaining it during the first half of the last century following the loss of their war for independence. As in the case of the postbellum South after the North lost interest in Reconstruction, the former rebels regained power. Restoration of whites to political power in the South made better business and political sense, as did the restoration of power to the Boers. Britain's power was strained following World War I, as evidenced by their decision not to employ full military force to retain most of Ireland inside the U.K. in the early 1920s.

Unfortunately, the Afrikaners did not restrict immigration into their country after they gained their ascendancy. The United States, Western Europe, Israel, etc., should take note. Short term profit from cheap labor outweighed long term security considerations.

[MinorityRepublican]

Orbison is only one town of Afrikaners only. Wh
ere are OTHERS?

[OldNewYork]

Orbison?