Skip to comments.Deceit in the Boy Scouts
Posted on 05/18/2013 3:54:41 AM PDT by rhema
There is deception in the ranks of the Boy Scouts of America.
A faction in the national leadership of the BSA wants to get rid of the longstanding membership policy against open and avowed homosexuality. But the way its going about it is not worthy of the Boy Scouts.
The BSA Executive Committee recently released a resolution which will be presented to the National Council for a vote on May 23. To the surprise of many, the resolution addresses only youth membership, leaving in place the prohibition on open homosexuality on the part of leaders.
It has been widely characterized as a compromise, but no Boy Scout should be fooled. The tension this incoherent policy would create would make it practically and legally unsustainable, and those pushing the resolution surely know that.
Under the policy, open homosexuality would be officially consistent with the Scouting code throughout a Scouts career until the moment he turns 18, when it suddenly becomes inconsistent with the code. And then what? No troop leader would want to put himself in the position of enforcing such an irrational rule, and likely few would. A de facto change in leadership rules would occur almost immediately.
But it wont stop there. This move could forfeit the legal victory the Scouts won at the Supreme Court over a decade ago. When the organization was sued for unlawful discrimination, the Court ruled in Boy Scouts of America v. Dale that the BSA has the right to maintain its membership policy under its First Amendment speech and association rights. But if the Scouts new speech is incoherent open homosexuality is consistent with the Scouting code except when it isnt there may be no legal basis left for courts to uphold one part of the code over another. It will be a lawsuit nightmare for the Scouts.
The truth is, a vote to allow open homosexuality on the part of scout members is a vote to allow open homosexuality on the part of scout leaders. The executives who drafted the resolution know it. It isnt the first time theyve intended to deceive.
Last year the results of an in-depth, two-year study of Boy Scout families showed overwhelming support for the long-standing membership policy. This was a frustration to those in the Executive Committee who want to change the policy, so they conducted another survey in February.
The February survey can fairly be called a push poll, a device used by political campaigns to try to influence the views of respondents under the guise of conducting a poll.
The lead scenario in the February survey describes a boy who joins as a tot and dutifully fulfills all requirements over the years until, at the moment he stands before the review board to receive his Eagle Scout Award, he reveals that he is gay. Is it acceptable for the board to deny him his Eagle Scout award?
In an obvious slip, the survey instructions were made public along with the survey questions. They tell survey-takers to present this scenario first every time, while rotating others involving boys sharing tents and gay male troop leaders who follow the youth protection guidelines on camping trips.
But even the results of this survey went wrong for those gunning for a change: Sixty-one percent of parents and Scout leaders favor keeping the current policy, while only 34 percent favor changing it. News agencies arent reporting it that way, though, because the official media statement released by the BSA executives includes nothing of the actual survey results but only this very calculated and utterly misleading claim: While perspectives and opinions vary significantly, parents, adults in the Scouting community and teens alike tend to agree that youth should not be denied the benefits of Scouting.
The Executive Summary of the survey is also crafted to deceive, leading with vague and disingenuous claims that suggest parents support the membership policy change while burying in a heap of diversionary words at the bottom of page 2 the real numbers that show parents overwhelmingly oppose it.
If the survey was slanted, the official documents released to the public and the press about its results are sheer treachery. How un-Boy Scout of them.
There will be a showdown in Grapevine, Texas, on May 23rd. But will it be a fair fight? Sources inside the Boy Scouts are hearing troubling reports about hundreds or even thousands of additional delegates arriving in Grapevine to cast a vote, anonymously, on the membership policy resolution. Their identities have not been revealed. Voting members of the National Council who support the current policy are in discussion with legal counsel and taking steps to preserve their right to a full and fair vote, an unfortunate step to take in a fraternal organization like the Boy Scouts, but obviously a necessary one.
The first tenet of Boy Scout law is to be Trustworthy. Even those at the top of the organization should not count themselves above it.
Perhaps it is time to purge the BSA Executive Committee of its heretics who believe that a little immorality is all right as long as the leaders are not openly homosexual. What kind of logic is that? How long before gay leaders are allowed? It is time to purge the Executive Committee. Let them start their own version of the BSA.
The day they let homosexuals in, is the day the BSA will end. Pity that they cannot see this.
READ YOUR SCOUTS OATH... YOU WILL HAVE TO BREAK IT TO ALLOW FAGS TO JOIN... END OF STORY... NOT AN INCH FOR THE WORM EATERS!
If you let them get their foot in the door it will end with them sticking something else in your butt.
Has the IRS taken a position on this yet?
Why can’t they understand we do not want homos in the Scouts. These institutions must be preserved as they were if we are to overcome radicals trying to destroy our culture.
As a Catholic I must say this is a no-brainer; they’ve cost us millions (aided and abetted by some in the hierarchy itself), and our previous Pope clearly banned them from seminaries (I guess they were allowed in before if they weren’t “active” - no more).
The problem is that BSA is letting its enemies frame the debate. The question is not whether BSA should let homosexuals in or place them in leadership positions they always have. The question is whether the BSA should make an official statement or policy on this. The answer is no. The Boy Scouts are not a sexual proposition. Dont Ask, Dont Tell is a perfectly acceptable policy. Its perfectly OK to regulate affection and discussion within a private organization. The Boy Scouts do not prohibit homosexual sex among minor scouts they prohibit sex among minor scouts. The scouts do not prohibit explicit demonstrations of affections among gay scouts, they prohibit explicit demonstrations of affection. When discussion turns vulgar, it is stopped whether that discussion is homosexual or not. This is no different than prohibiting alcohol, drugs, weapons, pornography,. or any other behavior that is not consistent with scout law.
So, BSA, take this off the table. Our organization is not about sex. Let the schools and media obsess over this. We have other things to teach our kids.
Boy Scout officials conducted a survey in recent months on whether to change the long-standing membership policy. The survey found that 72 percent of the chartering organizations oppose changing the policy. That corresponds almost exactly with the percentage of chartering organizations that are faith-based. And a great many of them are Catholic parishes.
How can Catholic churches sponsor troops with leaders who live in open and avowed opposition to the truths of the Catholic faith and the teachings of its Church? It is a question that all Catholic delegates must ponder before they vote in Grapevine next week.
Maybe not, but it is worthy of a deceitful Alinskyite community organizer.
Once a society has become suffused with decadence it is virtually impossible to reverse it.
Oh, that crap again. The homosexuals can have all the benefits of Scouting now--just form their own organization.
Or is one of their perceived "benefits" the ability to attempt the perversion of morally upright youth?
Clearly, assuming this treachery fails, those members of the executive council, who are in fact big donor corporate proxies, should be purged with all due speed, as they are a cancer in the organization.
That they threaten to take their corporate funding with them is a given, and well worth giving riddance to bad rubbish. It is little more than “30 pieces of silver” to betray and undermine, with the intent to destroy, the BSA.
The left have long been skilful at co-opting organizations to support the leftist agenda, to the detriment of their original purpose, or to destroy them. For unless you embrace the leftist agenda, you are “the enemy”, and are unworthy of life.
The BSA has just one chance with this meeting. If it fails, then it is over. If the leftists have stuffed the ballot box, which the Democrat party has long mastered, then a hundred years good works will be for naught.
Just a matter of time!!!!!
Never come between mama or papa bear and their cubs, you will be destroyed. End of story.
Given the experiences of Penn State and the Roman Catholic church with adult male homosexuals and boys under their care, anyone who thinks the BSA should allow homosexual leaders is either blinded by the ideology of the homosexual agenda or in favor of child molestation, or both.
We need names of the people pushing this.
No it isn't, and the Supreme Court agreed in the James Dale case in 2000.
This is a typical homosexual cabal at work, undermining from the inside and from nearby contacts in business and the community that the Scouts rely on for help.
The campaign continues.
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