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Congressman: IRS asked pro-life group about 'the content of their prayers'
Washington Examiner ^ | Friday May 17, 2013 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 05/17/2013 12:13:01 PM PDT by theruleshavechanged

“Their question, specifically asked from the IRS to the Coalition for Life of Iowa, ‘Please detail the content of the members of your organization’s prayers,’" Schock declared.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; antijewish; congress; irs; obamahatesgodliness; prayers; prolife
They believe in prayers?
1 posted on 05/17/2013 12:13:01 PM PDT by theruleshavechanged
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To: theruleshavechanged

No, prosecution & persecution.


2 posted on 05/17/2013 12:15:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: theruleshavechanged

The Inquisition. IRS style.


3 posted on 05/17/2013 12:17:51 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Christians told to disclose their prayers, while similar treatment of muslims is strictly off-limits. Let it sink in.


4 posted on 05/17/2013 12:18:09 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: theruleshavechanged

"YOU don't like it?
Then get a Koran and convert."

5 posted on 05/17/2013 12:22:52 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: SpaceBar

Obama already knows the prayers of democrats , since they pray directly to him.


6 posted on 05/17/2013 12:23:26 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Pulling their tax exempt status.

If you pray, and they view it as political, it is illegal.


7 posted on 05/17/2013 12:24:37 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

It’s getting harder and harder not to pray for tragedy to fill these apparatchiks lives.


8 posted on 05/17/2013 12:26:56 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Ok, of all the stuff I’ve heard about the IRS pulling, and there’s a lot of bad stuff, this just creeped me out the most. I mean that’s downright Spanish Inquisition.


9 posted on 05/17/2013 12:39:16 PM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Psalm 109:8


10 posted on 05/17/2013 12:46:15 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: King Moonracer

agreed. God bless them with a brick


11 posted on 05/17/2013 12:47:00 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: theruleshavechanged
“They believe in prayers?”

No, but it bothers them that YOU do!

They've also asked:

“What are you reading?”

“How much money do you typically carry in your wallet?”

I would have told them:

“Please provide your questions in writing, so that I may review them with an accountant and attorney, to ensure my answers are current and complete.”
(...and so I can share you asinine intrusions with the media)

12 posted on 05/17/2013 12:47:24 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: reaganaut

Psalm 109:8


Love it. I was thinking about that same verse. (Check out my tagline)


13 posted on 05/17/2013 12:49:18 PM PDT by ne1410s (Proverbs 17:7 Eloquent lips are unsuited to a godless fool - how much worse lying lips to a ruler!)
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To: theruleshavechanged
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14 posted on 05/17/2013 12:52:09 PM PDT by baddog 219
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To: ne1410s

another good verse for this time.


15 posted on 05/17/2013 12:59:04 PM PDT by reaganaut (Kyrie eleison...Christe eleison...Kyrie eleison)
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To: theruleshavechanged

It almost sounds as if these lefties working at the IRS, in stunned amazement that they had gotten away with it this far, kept trying to one-up each other in pushing the edge of the envelope.


16 posted on 05/17/2013 1:11:14 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: theruleshavechanged

Has not the line in the sand been crossed?

If not, then I seriously doubt that there is any line.


17 posted on 05/17/2013 1:15:50 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: theruleshavechanged

They’re afraid the prayers are political. Can’t have that.


18 posted on 05/17/2013 1:17:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: theruleshavechanged

In a sane world the irs would be disbanded and its management put in prison.


19 posted on 05/17/2013 1:59:26 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: theruleshavechanged
The Transformation Gate
20 posted on 05/17/2013 2:15:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Well let’s see. After supervising IRS personnel who ask taxpayers the contents of their prayers and the books they read, is given a $100,000+ bonus and a promotion to supervise the IRS handling of Obamacare will now get to terrorize the 50% of Americans that do not pay income taxes. Yippee.


21 posted on 05/17/2013 2:41:53 PM PDT by brydic1
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To: Diogenesis

22 posted on 05/17/2013 3:47:54 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: 4Liberty

23 posted on 05/17/2013 3:49:36 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: theruleshavechanged
They believe in prayers?

They think they're God.

24 posted on 05/17/2013 3:51:36 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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God help us! I don’t want to believe this. But I think we may be approaching civil conflict. We are so badly divided now. And the forces that hate Christianity and freedom have become so aggressive, so intolerant. Some Christians will turn the other cheek. Some will renounce their faith rather than face what seems a long fight of doubtful outcome. But others will certainly resist. Pray for domestic peace. We had such a wonderful country!


25 posted on 05/17/2013 6:29:39 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: theruleshavechanged
The man said he couldn't address it without knowing the context. After much thought I realized what this might be about ~ whether or not that group was actually a group, or just a single individual.

Before you get authorization to mail at a non profit rate, or receive exemption from federal income tax, you must, first of all, be a group.

Believe it or not there are individuals who make masterful efforts to prove that they are really groups. If they succeed, they'll donate all their income to their one man church, let the church take care of them, and they will evade taxation.

One such individual was called The Reverend Ewing. He single handedly tied up IRS, USPS, HUD and tax authorities in a number of different states. There was no church at all in his life, but he said there was and he really knew the rules, and apparently could acquit himself well in state and federal courts.

A friend of mine had been tending the 'evidence' provided by the Reverend Union for at least 10 years ~ maybe 15. It took up space and since it was still a live case we could just send it off to a federal records center.

The case languished for years. Then, finally the big boss died, my friend retired, and we took the 'evidence', put it in boxes, and declared it 'lost'. End of that case. He never did get to use nonprofit mailing privileges though. That's because he could never prove he was a group. He tried. I know that at one point my friend had actually asked him to provide the content of prayers given at services, and asked if he could come visit the church some day to see him preach.

The bureaucrats are not crazy to distrust some members of the public!

26 posted on 05/17/2013 7:04:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: theruleshavechanged; NorthernCrunchyCon; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Finatic; fellowpatriot; MarineMom613; ..
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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

27 posted on 05/17/2013 7:04:42 PM PDT by narses
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To: 4Liberty

If we cherish our young people the way Anne Frank’s parents cherished her, we will do something to stop the Obama Administration in its tracks.


28 posted on 05/17/2013 7:54:46 PM PDT by miserare
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To: Wurlitzer
Has not the line in the sand been crossed? If not, then I seriously doubt that there is any line.

It's sort of like the limbo. Keep lowering the bar and lowering the bar till we're crawling in the dirt.

29 posted on 05/17/2013 8:40:18 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: muawiyah

????????


30 posted on 05/17/2013 11:55:16 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: theruleshavechanged

Wow.

Hey, don’t worry they were punished with “oral counseling”


31 posted on 05/18/2013 12:48:43 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Actually, they get fired. These are what are called 'confidential positions' ~ and although that's the lowest security classification, you gots' ta' have it, and if you don't they dump you.

That happens all the time ~ just the gub'mnt doesn't tell you about it.

32 posted on 05/18/2013 5:33:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: theruleshavechanged

I’ve said it so many times!

Shut down the IRS completely. Fire everyone! Pull out the phone and internet lines. Sell, lease or board up all buildings being used by this evil, totalitarian organization.

Kill the central socialist government by eliminating the present tax system. No more corporate income taxes, no subsidies, no gimmies of any kind and a singular rate for all income levels: 8% or less would do nicely.

How about a federal government that defends America?

And Americans, fire this evil, lop-eared, anti-American phony president and his court jester.

America is dying by degrees. Stop the madness while we still have a nation.


33 posted on 05/18/2013 8:01:02 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Diogenesis

You know...When I see a picture like that of a person who I generally have a mild dislike of, pointing a finger, maybe at someone, say like me...

It’s kinda funny...Sad for him, funny for me...


34 posted on 05/19/2013 2:39:30 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: muawiyah

Are we that stupid? The government wants us to think that a few rogues were able to use the IRS, FBI, Homeland Security etc etc to attack hundreds of their critics for more than 2 years and that Obama had nothing to do with it. Is anyone really that stupid?


35 posted on 05/19/2013 10:51:19 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
As you know GeronL, government is very large and very complex. The leider doesn't just stand up and say 'I want it' and he gets it. Tradition has it that IKE felt utterly frustrated dealing with the US government as President. Stuff didn't just happen as he'd had it when he was Supreme Allied Commander.

What we have here is a large office with vast correspondence with people of all kinds all over the nation. I've worked in two such offices for many years and studied the phenomenon even longer. Health insurance and auto insurance providers run similar operations.

The process in question STARTS AT THE BOTTOM as a way of more effectively and efficiently processing the correspondence and delivering answers. Top management rarely gets involved in these things but when they do they'll always have an ulterior and probably secret motive.

Here the separation had been going on before management decided it was good and began giving each other awards for the idea. This extended all the way to the President himself signing off on $103,000 in bonuses to the top boss, and then, once the election was over she got a big promotion to head up the ObamaKKKare harrassment division!

This sort of thing happens in the private sector as well. Modern correspondence control systems simply make it worse.

But you know that I am sure.

36 posted on 05/19/2013 11:00:34 AM PDT by muawiyah
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