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Anger? Wait 'til people do their taxes next year ...
American Thinker ^ | 05/16/2013 | Silvio Canto Jr.

Posted on 05/16/2013 9:41:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In about 9 months, Americans will come face to face with ObamaCare. It will happen when they sit down to fill out their tax returns. My guess is that most people will be angry.

ObamaCare and the IRS will work hand in hand in the implementation of the law, as Byron York points out today:

"A look at the text of the health care law reveals that much of it consists of amending the Internal Revenue Code to give the IRS more power. When Obamacare goes fully into effect in January, every American will have to prove to the IRS that he or she has "qualifying" health coverage, meaning coverage with a list of features approved by Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. That will be done by submitting a document to the IRS, something like a W-2, to confirm coverage."

There is more. In simple language, the IRS will be the manager of the new law.

The IRS will ask you questions that you thought heretofore belonged in the very confidential relationship between doctors and patients.

The IRS will also need to hear about "raises" and changes in your financial condition.

Didn't a bunch of colonists throw tea in the harbor the last time that something like this happenned?

The IRS and HHS will monitor the people through a "database," or a huge intrusion into your personal, financial and health information.

Again, my good guess is that most Democrats who voted for this monstrosity will shut off their phones next spring. They won't like what voters are telling them.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhohealthcare; bhotaxincrease; irs; obamacare; taxes

1 posted on 05/16/2013 9:41:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is the reason behind the push for gun control THIS year.


2 posted on 05/16/2013 9:42:21 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: SeekAndFind

America is finished. We are now a communists controlled Country with King Obama as dictator. Make no doubt about that. Nothing to stop him.


3 posted on 05/16/2013 9:44:41 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind

I propose that the IRS be disabled whilst this is all being sorted out. Make everyone-EVERYONE- pay Quarterly Estimated taxes, and send a check to the irs. Result? Taxrevolt!


4 posted on 05/16/2013 9:46:06 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I see an audit in my future if filing taxes requires answering too many personal questions.


5 posted on 05/16/2013 9:49:52 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: SeekAndFind

It is about time that people and businesses stop filing their tax forms. A good 50 million or so tax payers that just say no is a good start. They can’t throw everyone in jail.


6 posted on 05/16/2013 9:51:27 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: Logical me
America is finished. We are now a communists controlled Country with King Obama as dictator. Make no doubt about that. Nothing to stop him.

Then turn in your Freeper card and off yourself. Spare us the demoralizing spew.

7 posted on 05/16/2013 10:06:22 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A Rostenkowski moment????


8 posted on 05/16/2013 10:07:25 AM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: SeekAndFind

The author is wrong. The new tax for not having health coverage will first appear on the 2014 tax return which most people will file in the spring of 2015.

I am a tax preparer for one of the largest tax preparation companies. At least half of my clients had not heard about this tax. I could tell by their reaction that many of them voted for Obozo. I stay away from politics with my clients but I could tell that many were having second thoughts about Obamacare.


9 posted on 05/16/2013 10:18:13 AM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: SeekAndFind

Why is this man smirking?


10 posted on 05/16/2013 10:20:56 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama-Ville - Land of The Freebies, Home of the Enslaved)
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To: SeekAndFind

AuschwitzCare aka ObamaCare


11 posted on 05/16/2013 10:21:36 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SeekAndFind
And Obama will rail against it. After all, it's not like the Low-Information Voters will think he's associated with it! Why, they'll just shake their heads, and say "He's doin' his best, poor man - look at that gray hair!"

(The Limbaugh Theorem in practice)

12 posted on 05/16/2013 10:26:46 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: DFG

Unfortunately, the mid term elections wll occur before that.

If it had occurred a year earlier, the 2014 elections would be a bloodletting.


13 posted on 05/16/2013 10:29:02 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: justlurking

Then it should bode well for the 2016 elections. And if Hillary is the Dem nominee, the GOP can pin ObamaCare on her. After all, she came up with the idea (HillaryCare) before Obama was ever on the scene.


14 posted on 05/16/2013 10:32:58 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: ConservativeInPA

“They can’t throw everyone in jail.”

Nope. At that point the summary executions will start.


15 posted on 05/16/2013 10:34:14 AM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: DFG

Your clients will find that the fine for not having healthcare coverage is just about what the average tax refund is now.

That’s one of the reasons the IRS is doing Healthcare work.

EZ money.


16 posted on 05/16/2013 11:05:30 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: SeekAndFind
I doubt it.

Everything now costs double what it cost five years ago and nary a peep, from bananas to toilet paper.

I honestly do not know what it would take at this point.

17 posted on 05/16/2013 11:06:55 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: DFG

But, if I am not mistaken, people will start seeing the premiums go up in Jan 14. That will generate some backlash.


18 posted on 05/16/2013 11:09:21 AM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Windflier
You said...
“Then turn in your Freeper card and off yourself. Spare us the demoralizing spew.”

Sometimes I wonder if we are finished as a country and when you look out at the landscape, it seems hopeless. Then I think about how Washington must have felt in those cold winters when his men were cold, starving, not paid, and the morale was low.

I never get why some Freepers think BHO is some sort of God. Watching these scandals and his handling of them tells me his regime won’t be taken down in one fell swoop, but more of a death by a thousand cuts. There are more shoes to fall. It’s darkest before the dawn.

19 posted on 05/16/2013 11:12:52 AM PDT by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Just make sure you max out the deductions on your W-4 first.


20 posted on 05/16/2013 11:14:04 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Logical me
America is finished.

Not yet. I'm still breathing and I still have bullets in my gun...

As long as one such person does, there is still hope.

I am not alone.

21 posted on 05/16/2013 11:15:59 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I can’t tell you how sick I am of abject defeatism on FR, always stated with 100% certainty.


22 posted on 05/16/2013 11:42:45 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

No ones even bleeding yet. There is plenty of FIGHT left...


23 posted on 05/16/2013 11:44:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

South Carolina offers some hope -

“Obamacare is unconstitutional and will not be implemented, either by people of this state or by the federal government, under penalty of arrest.”


24 posted on 05/16/2013 11:45:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Ought to be interesting to see what happens in such States when the IRS starts asking about compliance come tax season...


25 posted on 05/16/2013 11:58:18 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

The states that do this will have to step up and shield their citizens.

Federal income taxes in a state escrow might be the next step.


26 posted on 05/16/2013 11:59:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: LMAO
Make no mistake Ubomba is only a figure head. He alone can do nothing to affect our lives. When Washington looked around at his bleak landscape he also saw his countrymen who surrounded him. He saw good, moral men who believed in something. He saw virtuous people fighting for what is right.

I feel no desparation when I look at Ubomba. I feel completely lost when I see my countrymen who elected him to office TWICE.

We have lost. The Constitution is meaningless. This grand experiment in liberty is over.

Sorry if you don't like how that feels but read my tagline.

27 posted on 05/16/2013 12:03:06 PM PDT by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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To: Dead Corpse
If we had a real opposition party they would be pushing for the end of the IRS.

No time better than now. Guess we'll have to do it ourselves.

28 posted on 05/16/2013 12:03:40 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The IRS will ask you questions that you thought heretofore belonged in the very confidential relationship between doctors and patients.

This is false.

30 posted on 05/16/2013 12:07:36 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: The Cajun
"Opposition Party"? Not from the GOP-e. Too many oxen would get gored on both sides for either Party to want any meaningful reform.

TEA Party take-over is the next best chance.

31 posted on 05/16/2013 12:10:04 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Logical me

             


Perhaps you meant to bookmark 'Surrender Monkey Republic'

32 posted on 05/16/2013 12:31:26 PM PDT by tomkat (solve for x: Baraq = islamite .. islam = enemy ... Baraq = x)
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To: MeganC

And I won’t be offering the bastards a blindfold beforehand.


33 posted on 05/16/2013 12:33:27 PM PDT by tomkat (solve for x: Baraq = islamite .. islam = enemy ... Baraq = x)
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To: SeekAndFind
The IRS will also need to hear about "raises" and changes in your financial condition.

What is this all about? I have not heard anything about this?

34 posted on 05/16/2013 1:20:31 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide

This is a B.S. article. Of course the IRS wants to know about changes to your income. They always have and always will.


35 posted on 05/16/2013 1:22:08 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: SeekAndFind

I suspect the anger will set in well before that — like during health insurance open enrollment in October/November. Wait until they get a whiff of those premium hikes.


36 posted on 05/16/2013 1:24:11 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Iron Munro
Traitor!

A lot of people think he was blackmailed. He first voted to declare obammacare illegal, then between that vote and the official announcement months later, he changed his mind. Some think it has to do with the feds looking into his adoption records of his 2 adopted foreign children.

37 posted on 05/16/2013 1:29:10 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: LMAO
Sometimes I wonder if we are finished as a country and when you look out at the landscape, it seems hopeless. Then I think about how Washington must have felt in those cold winters when his men were cold, starving, not paid, and the morale was low.

It's an apt analogy, and I do understand how some could have become so demoralized, that they're now convinced of the enemy's omnipotence. But it's not true. The enemies of this country aren't omnipotent by a long shot. Not even close.

They're a tragic bunch of total incompetents, who just happen to be sitting in stations of great power and influence. It doesn't mean they can even shoot straight - and they can't. Just look at the mess they're making of every single thing they touch.

An angry, resolute, and fearless group of Americans who won't back down, is all it will take to make these dumb bells start walking into lamp posts and oncoming traffic.

38 posted on 05/16/2013 4:28:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
You said...
“It's an apt analogy, and I do understand how some could have become so demoralized, that they're now convinced of the enemy's omnipotence. But it's not true. The enemies of this country aren't omnipotent by a long shot. Not even close.

They're a tragic bunch of total incompetents, who just happen to be sitting in stations of great power and influence. It doesn't mean they can even shoot straight - and they can't. Just look at the mess they're making of every single thing they touch.

An angry, resolute, and fearless group of Americans who won't back down, is all it will take to make these dumb bells start walking into lamp posts and oncoming traffic”

The only thing carrying this administration is a cheerleading press and to a lesser extent, a confused GOP. Nothing more. And that can only go on for so long

39 posted on 05/18/2013 3:48:58 PM PDT by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: LMAO
The only thing carrying this administration is a cheerleading press and to a lesser extent, a confused GOP. Nothing more. And that can only go on for so long

Well, there are also the 'faithful' in government, academia, and the online left-wing culture which help to prop it up.

But you're right. It takes a lot of work on the part of Barry's cheerleaders to keep him from sinking. A great President wouldn't need anyone's help to garner true admiration and loyalty from the people.

40 posted on 05/18/2013 6:39:01 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: nitzy

Just WOW! Are you working for Soros?


41 posted on 05/18/2013 7:17:07 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee
Soros and people like him rely on a broken system that is not fully understood. They need people to view the world through a false paradigm that gives false hope. If people called spades, spades they would be forced to do something about it.

Do you think that our current system of government is similar to the government laid out in the Constitution of the United States? You can't know anything about the founding of this country and say that we currently have the system which was designed for us.

From the power balance between the 3 branches, to the power balance between the levels of government, to the role of the courts, military, president, senate, free markets, property, religion, education, etc...There is no similarity.

You can keep your head in the sand and waive your flag and think you can change the country inch by inch back to what was intended if you want.

It ain't gonna happen.

80% of the American public have no idea what principals are laid out in the Constitution. Of those that do, 50% think that they are wrong and old fashioned and no longer useful.

Was Ben Franklin "working for Soros" when he implied that we may be unable to keep the Republic?

Q - “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”

A- “A Republic, if you can keep it.”

Sorry, Mr Franklin. We couldn't.

42 posted on 05/20/2013 9:43:28 AM PDT by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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