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Canadian mobsters killed in 'old-fashioned' Sicilian mafia hit
The Guardian ^ | Friday 10 May 2013 | Tom Kington

Posted on 05/10/2013 2:47:33 PM PDT by MarkBsnr

Two senior members of the Canadian mafia have been murdered in Sicily and their bodies incinerated, victims of what police suspect is a vicious turf war in Canada which has spilled over into the Cosa Nostra's Italian heartland. After an anonymous tip-off, the bodies of Juan Ramon Paz Fernandez and Fernando Pimentel were discovered near a rubbish dump in the countryside outside Palermo on Thursday. Police described the double killing as an "old-fashioned" gangland hit. Spanish-born Fernandez, 57, a notoriously tough enforcer for Montreal's Rizzuto clan, was expelled from Canada last year for the third time after serving a 10-year sentence for conspiracy to murder a fellow mobster. He resurfaced in Palermo, where he was suspected of teaming up with the Cosa Nostra to build drug-trafficking links between Sicily and Canada. Pimentel arrived in Palermo a few weeks ago to join Fernandez, who was allegedly working as a martial arts instructor as cover for his mob activities. Nicknamed Joey Bravo in Canada, Fernandez was a feared right-hand man of Sicily-born Vito Rizzuto, who allied with New York's Bonanno family to build an unrivalled mafia empire in Canada in the 1980s, handling drugs, loan sharking, gambling and contract killing. In the midst of a turf war allegedly pitting the clan with a breakaway faction, Rizzuto was jailed while rivals murdered his father and son, the latter buried in a gold coffin which was paraded through Montreal's Little Italy. Fernandez stayed loyal to Rizzuto while he served his own time in jail in Canada, and was suspected by police of continuing to run operations through criminal associates. He was also suspected of being behind the murder of drug dealer Constantin "Big Gus" Alevizos in 2008.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; italy; mafia; ndrangheta; popefrancis; sicily
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I grew up in a city that had a significant Mafia presence. But they mostly kept it between themselves. When the Mafia had a presence in NYC, crime was significantly less than when the crackdown occurred and the other gangs from other cultures moved in and started including the surrounding citizenry in their disputes.

I'm not suggesting that the Mafia is necessarily benign, but oddly, they did provide a certain pacifying street presence.

1 posted on 05/10/2013 2:47:33 PM PDT by MarkBsnr
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To: MarkBsnr

Now if we could just get the Mafia to go to war with the Muslim Brotherhood.


2 posted on 05/10/2013 2:49:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: MarkBsnr

Phffft! These guys can’t hold a candle to the Mexican gangs. Pikers!


3 posted on 05/10/2013 2:52:16 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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> Now if we could just get the Mafia to go to war with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Sicily vs. the Obama White House? Could be interesting.


4 posted on 05/10/2013 2:52:44 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: MarkBsnr
I'm not suggesting that the Mafia is necessarily benign, but oddly, they did provide a certain pacifying street presence.

Thank you!

5 posted on 05/10/2013 2:53:54 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: MarkBsnr

It’s just business. they never execute for personal reasons.


6 posted on 05/10/2013 2:57:39 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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I always wondered if the US government gave the Italian/Sicilian Mafia the rights to the US drug trade and the US government would turn a blind eye.....could they wipe out the islamic drug trade as well as the Mexican cartels.
For them its just business, not personal.


7 posted on 05/10/2013 3:00:06 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: saganite

The Mexicans kill everyone, the Sicilian/Italian Mafia does not kill for the personal only business.


8 posted on 05/10/2013 3:01:04 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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Now if we could just get the Mafia to go to war with the Muslim Brotherhood.

Make 'em an offer that they cannot refuse.

9 posted on 05/10/2013 3:01:10 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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I grew up in a city that had a significant Mafia presence. But they mostly kept it between themselves.

And they never did violence in their grandmothers' neighborhoods!

10 posted on 05/10/2013 3:02:25 PM PDT by PGR88
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Still not as criminal as Obama.


11 posted on 05/10/2013 3:14:27 PM PDT by Viennacon
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How can you tell if a person was killed by the Canadian Mafia?

When they pull a body out of lake Ontario....arms tied up by a hockey stick and feet weighed down by a pair of curling stones.


12 posted on 05/10/2013 3:16:32 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Jyotishi

If Ubama and the rats decide to run Moochelle against Hillary for the rat nomination in 2016, we could have a mob war between the Chicago mafia and the Dixie mafia. Stock up on popcorn.


13 posted on 05/10/2013 3:18:26 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Kolath
A second/third generation Canadian 'wiseguy', "I'm a gonna make him an offer he canna refuse, EH!
14 posted on 05/10/2013 3:21:18 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was lost but now I'm found; blind but now I see.)
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It’s just business. they never execute for personal reasons.

I'm a little skeptical. The Godfather trilogy was fiction that airbrushed the sociopathic personalities of mob figures. The real-life characters in Goodfellas are a lot closer to what the average mobster is like. John Gotti had his neighbor killed for accidentally running over his son.

15 posted on 05/10/2013 3:37:48 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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That was father killing the guy who killed his son, nothing to do with the family business.


16 posted on 05/10/2013 3:43:49 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Squawk 8888

Looks like natural causes to me. For the mafia, anyway.


17 posted on 05/10/2013 3:44:51 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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That was father killing the guy who killed his son, nothing to do with the family business.

Which goes against "they never execute for personal reasons".

18 posted on 05/10/2013 3:52:26 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

No not really, I was strictly speaking within the Family.
The killing had nothing to do with the Family.


19 posted on 05/10/2013 3:54:16 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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I grew up in a city that had a significant Mafia presence. But they mostly kept it between themselves.

And they never did violence in their grandmothers' neighborhoods!

That's because their 4-1/2' tall grandmothers would kick their asses.

20 posted on 05/10/2013 4:07:08 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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