Skip to comments.Immigration bill grants amnesty to employers of illegals; no prosecution for bogus IDs
Posted on 04/30/2013 2:15:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
The debate is raging over whether the latest immigration bill is an amnesty for illegal immigrants, but one part is clear: The legislation would forgive businesses that have employed those immigrants illegally.
Employers who have allowed illegal immigrants to work off the books can come forward safely and provide their work history without fear of prosecution, and businesses that knowingly employed someone using a bogus or stolen Social Security number likewise would get a pass, according to an analysis of the bill by the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that wants a crackdown on immigration.
The illegal workers at least have to pay a token fine. The employers of illegal immigrants who violated a whole list of laws themselves dont even have to pay, said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the center. Its the business side of the amnesty that doesnt get a lot of focus.
Business groups support is considered critical to getting a bill passed this year, but attention has been focused mostly on a guest worker program and requirements that all employers would have to meet, such as using an electronic verification system to check potential hires.
Indeed, it wasnt until business groups, led by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, struck a deal with the AFL-CIO on a guest worker program that the final Senate bill came together....
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
This amnesty bill is sounding more and more like a communist’s wet dream.
This whole scam is nothing but an attempt to put the final nail into the coffin of traditional American society. To borrow a phrase from someone else.....None dare call it treason.
Which they can subsidize with welfare because the bill gives them immediate access to public assistance. If there's no penalty then there's incentive for id fraud and collection of welfare on top of work wages. We're seeing just how stupid government can get!
Do those things and illegal aliens will deport themselves and pay for the trip.
I know a Hispanic man who is here on a green card. He told his employer he was illegal as they only hire illegals. They paid 12/hr, but did not follow any of the other laws. They work everybody 60 hrs/week but with no time and a half overtime.
This is the reason illegals are employed. If they make them legal, then the employees will report the employer. Mostly, I think these marginal businesses will go under. The unemployment problem will quintuple. Also, they aren’t paying any unemployment tax on these guys.
The unintended consequences are going to be a bee-itch.
What about having the employers pay back payroll taxes and workers comp payroll fees? The main reason these people are off the books is so employers can commit tax fraud and insurance fraud.
So employers who are committing felonies by keeping illegal aliens off the books will be granted amnesty instead of going to jail for 5 to life? And those honest employers who did everything correct will continue to be harassed by the IRS.
I am getting pretty FED up with these politicians and bureaucrats.
I don’t disagree with this. As an employer needing bilingual employees, I know it is very easy to get false ID’s and SS#. Not even the IRS catches them, why should employers be fined for not resolving what no Federal Agencies will or can?
REFERENCE The America-hating Tsarnaev family collected bigtime----rode the US gravy train using several identites. The Boston bomber brothers' lavish style could not have been financed merely w/ welfare checks, food stamps, housing subsidies, etc etc etc.
A look at dead bomber Tamerlan's reading list on Amazon shows he researched several books WRT forging new identities (each identity pocketing US govt freebies).
TAMERLAN'S READING LIST--PUT THIS IN YOUR BROWSER
Faked/forged identities is a common practice among "impoverished" latinos on US soil....."the just here for a better life types". The "impoverished" invaders pay $$$ thousands for fake identities. The latino Washington state rapist had some 30 identities. Another latino scammed UI for $3/4 million using fake identities.
NJ BERGEN RECORD CIRCA 2004---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity (many latinos establish multiple identities in order to ride the US gravy train).
The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said NJ state police.
The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot.
The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.
All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####
But let a conservative jaywalk and they’ll throw the book at him.
This BS with outside entities and legal groups drafting laws, handing them to Representatives and Senators to bring up on the floor without knowing whats in them is complete tyranny. We did not elect these shadow law groups, we elected our Representatives and Senators. This is complete and total failure of the American system of Republicanism.
============================================= COMMENTS Clearly vote-crazed pols are prostrate in obeisance, taking orders from foreign agents cunningly attempting to undermine US ntl security on the pretext of "immigration reform." These foreign control agents present a clear and present danger to Americans....and must be stopped.
Immigration reform is the gateway to terrorism. "Ethnic solidarity" is rearing its ugly head (think Boston bombers w/ a latino accent). US politicans are clearly colluding and conspiring with foreign agents to undermine US ntl security and placing Americans in danger. The word is out: " It's open season to conduct dirty deeds....and US politicans are helping us. So, all you "undocumented" terrorists, come on down---invade the US, and bring bombs "
“ not even the IRS catches them.” Are you serious, IRS turns a blind eye. I had a friend,named Jackie, who has an Hispanic last name. Every year for 11 years the IRS sent her W-2 forms for Jack ———ez, who worked at a furniture factory in CA. Every year, she reported the IRS, that she didn’t live in CA and did not work at a furniture factory. Finally after having to report this for 11 years in a row, her husband called the employer and told him to stop paying the taxes under his wife’s name or he would report the guy to INS (ICE, now).
IF...the Dems win the Senate and House in 2014...
That'd fix the problem plus raise the average IQ of the business community substantially.
I dont know why this is even being addressed when our economy is in shambles. How easily the Dems play with our heads and distract us. We should be screaming for Obama to focus and fix the economy. Immigrants are leaving on their own!!!!!! Instead Obama gets to say, “look how mean they are”. If we demanded that he focus on the economy, everyone would understand.
Undocumented immigration in Texas falls to its lowest level since the 1980s
By Jeremy Roebuck STAFF WRITER
Updated 1:43 am, Wednesday, February 20, 2013
This is a ruse.
“This whole scam is nothing but an attempt to put the final nail into the coffin of traditional American society.
IF...the Dems win the Senate and House in 2014... “
What difference does it make, really? Republicans are pushing this amnesty, even writing it. Even LIMBAUGH said this morning that this gang of 8/Rubio thing is NOT AMNESTY...HE is part of the problem, not part of the solution!
Ask him what is conservative about joining this scam to promote AMNESTY??? Or having radical Islam promoter Grover Norquist as Rubios spokesman?
WHO is Americans for a Conservative Direction?
follow the link
Everyone see now why Dems and their GOP accomplices pushed for gun control and were so upset it failed?
Plenty of RINOs to put it over the edge. Holding off disasters like this with hopes of a GOP edge somewhere is so over.
would it still be illegal for me to get a fake ID?
[ ]The immigration bill will require that approximately 574,329 African American employees of public school districts and hospitals be placed on indefinite suspension until the first wave of undocumented workers are placed in jobs suitable to their training and experience. White workers will be hurt as well, but many will secure part time employment completing Affordable Care Act forms for newly insured workers and their dependents ~ thus completing stage one of President Obama's promise to insure the uninsured'
Of course - this scheme of getting more "cheap" labor that taxpayers have to support is a creature of big business.
The MORE that I learn about this treason... the MORE that I despise rubio.
These greedy employers are little saw’d off traitors and criminals...I have nothing but contempt for these lying low life swine...These people lie as a matter of routine, playing stupid as they count their profits on the backs of honest tax payers...
Profits regardless of consequences...
They could care less entire towns and cities become trashed 3rd world slums, with choked off hospitals, jails, etc...As long as they get their dirt cheap, low wage illegal labor...
These types really need to burn in hell.
That's exactly what it is and exactly why liberals/leftists support illegals coming in.
“We’re seeing just how stupid government can get! “
Its not stupidity if you know better.
Who is financing the current media blitz to pass amnesty?
WHO is Americans for a Conservative Direction?
In direct violation of at least a dozen laws. So much for protecting Americans. Our Congress is only interested in their power, their votes, and our money.
It is time to abolish our government that no longer represent Americans and start over.
“As an employer needing bilingual employees, I know it is very easy to get false IDs and SS#. “
It also easy to identify them through eVerify. Not to mention, you damned well when you are hiring an illegal alien.
Rubio is a Hispanic liar. He represents foreign interests over Americans that pay the taxes.
That’s just wonderful. That little chithead is quite the troublemaker.
“Rubio is a Hispanic liar. He represents foreign interests over Americans that pay the taxes.”
That’s part of it. For the moment, he represents Bill GAtes and Mark Zuckerberg.
Who is financing the current media blitz to pass amnesty?
WHO is Americans for a Conservative Direction?
“Thats just wonderful. That little chithead is quite the troublemaker.”
I REALLY miss spreading good news!! Been a while since we had any.
that’s what I have been pondering. This represents arbitrary enforcement of laws based on political gaming
That's part of the problem. They don't/won't assimilate as long as there are those willing to accommodate them.
Well, spring is here. Oh, wait! Never mind.
Yes, if you're an American citizen. The government doesn't like people who don't pay taxes. Oh, an illegal immigrant with a stolen ID? No problemo. In fact, let's see what we can do to get you EITC.
Didn't pay taxes? What's the difference?
Here's your check. Enjoy.
And don't forget to register to vote on your way out of the DMV where you got your state issued driver's license.
Wouldn't want you to call us bigots or anything.
That would be morally wrong.
Judging you, I mean.
Understand that it is the RINOs and the Chamber of Commerce that put this provision into the law.
This is the third time the Chamber of Commerce has tried to exempt businesses from any guilt or accountability for hiring illegal aliens.
In prior years the Chamber of Commerce put poison pills in Sam Johnson (R, TX) and later Lamar Smith’s (R, TX) bills supposedly enforcing E-Verify but also exempted businesses from all penalties and past illegal hiring, and preempted all state and local laws then in effect trying to control illegal immigration. Their primary purpose, hidden in he bills, was to kill the only effective controls on illegal immigration.
The Chamber wrote the significant portion of this amnesty bill and the past two bills giving businesses a pass.
The Chamber of Commerce wants amnesty and cheap labor at all costs. They don’t give a damn about the American people.
I doubt if Rubio has even read the bill. We’re all on autopilot.
If this is true, then a yes vote would amount to treason and should be treated as such.
“I doubt if Rubio has even read the bill. “
Yes. He’s the public face out campaigning for it, that’s all he’s got time for. The lobbyists..Norquist & Conda and the Unions are writing it.
Did you see who some of the $ behind it is?
“The Chamber wrote the significant portion of this amnesty bill and the past two bills giving businesses a pass.”
They are most certainly part of it and Grover Norquist is on their Board of Directors. Norquist is writing most of it, like he did the Bush Amnesty and admits to it, with the help of Cesar Conda, Rubio’s ‘chief of staff’. Norquist is also a lobbyist for Microsoft, GE, fannie mae, some foreign interests...all who support AMNESTY.
We learned today, here’s where some of the money is coming from.
"Rubio is a Hispanic liar. He represents foreign interests over Americans that pay the taxes."
One Business Filed 37,375 Bad W-2 Forms — and Is Getting Away With It
Americas No. 1 filer of bad W-2s wa an Illinois-based company.
Geez.. what a shock.
yep. the IRS is breaking their backs to catch illegals.
I hate government that wastes taxes.
Which is about 99% so, call me evil if I hate government altogether.
“Rubio is a God loving man. “
What the Hell does that have to do with him trying to push amnesty?? Wait, maybe YOU are for amnesty but don’t want to publicly admit it. So, let’s go for the record, are you for amnesty?
Do Americans with bogus ID’s also get amnesty?
What about equality under the law?
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