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1 posted on 04/30/2013 2:15:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This amnesty bill is sounding more and more like a communist’s wet dream.


2 posted on 04/30/2013 2:20:44 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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This whole scam is nothing but an attempt to put the final nail into the coffin of traditional American society. To borrow a phrase from someone else.....None dare call it treason.


3 posted on 04/30/2013 2:22:58 PM PDT by MachIV
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The illegal workers at least have to pay a token fine

Which they can subsidize with welfare because the bill gives them immediate access to public assistance. If there's no penalty then there's incentive for id fraud and collection of welfare on top of work wages. We're seeing just how stupid government can get!

4 posted on 04/30/2013 2:26:37 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot
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This or nothing.

Do those things and illegal aliens will deport themselves and pay for the trip.

5 posted on 04/30/2013 2:27:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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I know a Hispanic man who is here on a green card. He told his employer he was illegal as they only hire illegals. They paid 12/hr, but did not follow any of the other laws. They work everybody 60 hrs/week but with no time and a half overtime.

This is the reason illegals are employed. If they make them legal, then the employees will report the employer. Mostly, I think these marginal businesses will go under. The unemployment problem will quintuple. Also, they aren’t paying any unemployment tax on these guys.

The unintended consequences are going to be a bee-itch.


6 posted on 04/30/2013 2:29:31 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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What about having the employers pay back payroll taxes and workers comp payroll fees? The main reason these people are off the books is so employers can commit tax fraud and insurance fraud.

So employers who are committing felonies by keeping illegal aliens off the books will be granted amnesty instead of going to jail for 5 to life? And those honest employers who did everything correct will continue to be harassed by the IRS.

I am getting pretty FED up with these politicians and bureaucrats.


7 posted on 04/30/2013 2:31:21 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t disagree with this. As an employer needing bilingual employees, I know it is very easy to get false ID’s and SS#. Not even the IRS catches them, why should employers be fined for not resolving what no Federal Agencies will or can?


8 posted on 04/30/2013 2:31:28 PM PDT by mgist
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But let a conservative jaywalk and they’ll throw the book at him.


10 posted on 04/30/2013 2:32:02 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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No wonder they wanted to pass it in a hurry before anyone (even themselves) had a chance to read it.
11 posted on 04/30/2013 2:32:22 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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Everyone see now why Dems and their GOP accomplices pushed for gun control and were so upset it failed?


18 posted on 04/30/2013 3:06:20 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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would it still be illegal for me to get a fake ID?


20 posted on 04/30/2013 3:13:03 PM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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Employers who have allowed illegal immigrants to work off the books can come forward safely and provide their work history without fear of prosecution, and businesses that knowingly employed someone using a bogus or stolen Social Security number likewise would get a pass

Of course - this scheme of getting more "cheap" labor that taxpayers have to support is a creature of big business.

22 posted on 04/30/2013 3:21:10 PM PDT by Jötunn
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The MORE that I learn about this treason... the MORE that I despise rubio.

LLS


23 posted on 04/30/2013 3:31:27 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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These greedy employers are little saw’d off traitors and criminals...I have nothing but contempt for these lying low life swine...These people lie as a matter of routine, playing stupid as they count their profits on the backs of honest tax payers...

Profits regardless of consequences...

They could care less entire towns and cities become trashed 3rd world slums, with choked off hospitals, jails, etc...As long as they get their dirt cheap, low wage illegal labor...

These types really need to burn in hell.


24 posted on 04/30/2013 4:00:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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28 posted on 04/30/2013 4:36:57 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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In direct violation of at least a dozen laws. So much for protecting Americans. Our Congress is only interested in their power, their votes, and our money.

It is time to abolish our government that no longer represent Americans and start over.


30 posted on 04/30/2013 4:39:18 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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Obama advertises in Spanish for Mexicans to cross illegally for foodstamps


35 posted on 04/30/2013 4:44:25 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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Understand that it is the RINOs and the Chamber of Commerce that put this provision into the law.

This is the third time the Chamber of Commerce has tried to exempt businesses from any guilt or accountability for hiring illegal aliens.

In prior years the Chamber of Commerce put poison pills in Sam Johnson (R, TX) and later Lamar Smith’s (R, TX) bills supposedly enforcing E-Verify but also exempted businesses from all penalties and past illegal hiring, and preempted all state and local laws then in effect trying to control illegal immigration. Their primary purpose, hidden in he bills, was to kill the only effective controls on illegal immigration.

The Chamber wrote the significant portion of this amnesty bill and the past two bills giving businesses a pass.

The Chamber of Commerce wants amnesty and cheap labor at all costs. They don’t give a damn about the American people.


41 posted on 04/30/2013 5:15:01 PM PDT by oldbill
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I doubt if Rubio has even read the bill. We’re all on autopilot.


42 posted on 04/30/2013 5:15:03 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (An economy is not a zero-sum game, but politics usually is.)
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If this is true, then a yes vote would amount to treason and should be treated as such.


43 posted on 04/30/2013 5:16:22 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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