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Ruh-Roh: Administration Wants to Tie in Obamacare to NICS
Gun News ^ | 4/26/13

Posted on 04/26/2013 5:55:18 AM PDT by pabianice

(GunNews.com) — Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has initiated a rulemaking process “to remove unnecessary legal barriers” under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) Privacy Rule that may prevent states from reporting to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which is the database that houses information on individuals prohibited by law from possessing firearms.

This is one of the 23 executive actions the President announced in January.

“Through the public comment process, we will use the data and information provided by states, health providers, patient advocates and others to determine how best to remove unnecessary barriers to NICS reporting while protecting patient privacy,” Sebelius said in an April 19 HHS release.

The NICS was created by the Brady Act and ensures that guns are not sold to those prohibited by law from buying them, including felons, those convicted of domestic violence, and individuals involuntarily committed to a mental institution or found to be a danger or unable to manage their affairs due to a mental health condition.

According to a 2012 Government Accountability Office report, 17 states had submitted fewer than 10 records of individuals prohibited for mental health reasons.

The HHS Office for Civil Rights (OCR) plans to issue an Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (ANPRM) to ask for the public’s input on how HIPAA may prevent some states from reporting to the NICS and ways in which these barriers can be addressed without discouraging individuals from seeking mental health services.

“In order to protect our children and communities, we must ensure that information on potentially dangerous individuals who are prohibited from possessing firearms is available to the background check system,” said Secretary Sebelius.

“Through the public comment process, we will use the data and information provided by states, health providers, patient advocates and others to determine how best to remove unnecessary barriers to NICS reporting while protecting patient privacy,” said OCR Director Leon Rodriguez.

The database that houses non-criminal justice information on individuals prohibited from possessing firearms for reasons related to mental health – called the NICS Index – does not contain medical or mental health records.

If an individual is prohibited from purchasing a firearm due to specific mental health reasons as set by law, the following information is submitted to the NICS: (1) basic identifying information about the individual such as name, social security number, and date of birth, (2) the name of the state or federal agency that submitted the information, and (3) a notation on which of the ten prohibited categories is applicable to the individual, which allows the individual to appeal and seek to correct incomplete or inaccurate information if needed.

When federally licensed firearms dealers request a NICS background check for a potential buyer, the only information they get back is that the potential buyer is approved, denied, or additional investigation is needed. The dealer does not receive any information about why an individual is denied and does not ever have access to any records of potential buyers, including health records.

The ANPRM will be available for review.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 666; banglist; bhofascism; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; nics; obama; obamacare; rkba; thegreatsatan; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: BlatherNaut

When my doc tries this one, my comment will be I don’t want him running interference from that SOB in the whitehouse. If the SOB wants an answer, he can appear directly in front of me and ask for it. Otherwise, I have no answer.


41 posted on 04/27/2013 1:27:38 PM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Travis McGee

Washington County - what state?


42 posted on 04/27/2013 1:41:01 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: pabianice

Mark Harmon is the last person you want to see your medical records ...


43 posted on 04/27/2013 1:44:38 PM PDT by x
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To: pabianice

Executive Orders are only applicable to the Executive Branch of the Government they have no bearing on all of America - keep that in mind . The intent of this is only to get it into the courts as it is an unconstitutional power grab. American people are not subservient to the Executive Branch.


44 posted on 04/27/2013 2:59:16 PM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: pabianice

That would be applied to everyone—not only Obamacare recipients.


45 posted on 04/27/2013 3:43:53 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kevmo
"So all those millions of Americans who are on SSRI meds will have their guns confiscated. Just one of the repercussions."

It is their intent that anyone who works in any kind of "health care" job would have discretion to report anyone to the NICS--not only welfare recipients.


46 posted on 04/27/2013 3:54:00 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Travis McGee

What you said!


47 posted on 04/27/2013 4:16:04 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: listenhillary
"Abnormal Is the New Normal
Why will half of the U.S. population have a diagnosable mental disorder?

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/04/diagnostic_and_statistical_manual_fifth_edition_why_will_half_the_u_s_population.html
"

That's a good point, although some people reading this thread will ignore it because of their own fears. Some of those of us, who were acquainted with certain kinds of psych., social work, English, women's studies or medical students in a university, are aware. Others who know much about efforts to get funding for social programs are also aware of the compulsive/socio-political desires in some to control others, greed, etc.


48 posted on 04/27/2013 4:16:17 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Tenacious 1
"My children know to look the doctor or any other adult who asks in the eye and “I do not know.” "

"I don't know?" WTF - Why say that? Have them say NO!

Human nature being the way it is, saying "No" will get the right box checked, and that will be it. Any other answer will require follow-up questions later.

49 posted on 04/27/2013 6:53:16 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Tenacious 1

MY GD [8 y/o at the time] replied....*Not that I would notice,* when asked about guns in the house.

I thought that was a great off-the-cuff answer for her age

Later she told me, she was afraid that someone would come and take her BB gun away.

It literally breaks my heart, that our hobby of shooting sports is looked on so negatively; and that a child has to defend it. This is not the America I want to leave to her. I am ashamed.


50 posted on 04/27/2013 6:59:22 PM PDT by Daffynition (Stand Your Ground)
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To: corlorde

>> a notation on which of the ten prohibited categories is applicable to the individual
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> Ten categories could be expanded to 100 with little to no fanfare.

Heck, no need for that; just loosen what qualifies for a category (e.g. felon).

> Pretty soon, everyone will be denied for some reason or another, and the appeals process will be backlogged, confusing, and convoluted.

*nod* — That is their plan.


51 posted on 04/30/2013 8:00:19 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: alloysteel
Apparently there is no longer any expectation of privacy in ANY transaction today, with the exception of what the Current Regime is doing in the White Hut. Whatever is going on there, is classified so highly that only the enemy shall ever find out what is going on, if in fact the denizens of the White Hut are not in active collusion with what are perceived to be enemies of the republic.

Because the only right to privacy is when having an abortion... as per Roe v. Wade.

52 posted on 04/30/2013 8:06:42 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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