Skip to comments.Executive Action: Obama To Ban Importation of Ammo, Magazines and Gun Accessories
Posted on 04/23/2013 4:17:08 PM PDT by SatinDoll
Over the course of the last month, while Americans were distracted with the threat of nuclear war on the Korean peninsula and the devastation wrought by the Boston bombings, President Obama was quietly working behind the scenes to craft laws and regulations that will further erode the Second Amendment.
Congress, and thus We the People, may have unequivocally rejected federal legislation in March which aimed to outlaw most semi-automatic rifles, restrict magazine capacity, and force national registration, but that didnt stop the President from ceding regulatory control over firearms importation to the United Nations just two weeks later. What the UN Arms Trade Treaty, passed without media fanfare by 154 counties, would do is to restrict the global trade of, among other things, small arms and light weapons. Opponents of the treaty argue that loopholes within the new international framework for global gun control may make it illegal for Americans to purchase and import firearms manufactured outside of the United States.
To further his gun-grabbing agenda, however, President Obama and his administration didnt stop there.
Now theyre taking another significant step against Americans right to bear arms and theyre doing it through Presidential Executive Action, a strategy that, once again, bypasses Congressional oversight and the legislative process.
it appears that the BHO Administration is taking executive action on firearms importation. Take a few minutes to read this: After Senate setback, Obama quietly moving forward with gun regulation. Here is the key portion of the article:
The Importation of Defense Articles and Defense Services U.S. Munitions Import List references executive orders, amends ATF regulations and clarifies Attorney General authority to designate defense articles and defense services as part of the statutory USML for purposes of permanent import controls, among other clauses specified in heavy legalese requiring commensurate analysis to identify just what the administrations intentions are. Among the speculations of what this could enable are concerns that importing and International Traffic in Arms Regulations [ITAR] may go forward to reflect key elements within the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.[Emphasis added.]
Depending on how it is implemented, the implications of this change could be huge. With the stroke a of a pen and without the consent of Congress, ATF bureaucrats could make ANY gun part or accessory (including magazines) or ammunition that were originally manufactured or perhaps even those designed for military use no longer legal for importation for civilian use. That might mean no more milsurp parts sets. No more milsurp magazines. No more milsurp ammo. No more milsurp optics. Perhaps not even spare firing pins. This could be ugly.
I strongly recommend that you stock up on magazines, ammunition and spare parts for any of your imported military pattern guns, as soon as possible! Once an import ban is implemented, prices will skyrocket.
Source: James Rawles Survival Blog via The Prepper Website
Just five days ago the President vowed to push forward on gun control without Congress and Nancy Pelosi argued that no matter what Congress says, gun control is inevitable.
This latest round of Executive Actions is what they meant.
A direct on attack on the second amendment is difficult if not impossible, so they are trying to slither their way in through the backdoor by restricting international trade so we cant import new firearms, by restricting access to accessories and gun parts, by heavily taxing ammunition and gun purchases, by mandating policies like forcing gun owners to have liability insurance, and of course, by identifying potentially dangerous gun owners and simply taking their firearms because of public safety concerns.
The President recently suggested that the American people have spoken, and that they want guns to be restricted, banned and heavily regulated.
If thats so, then how is that a bipartisan Congress overwhelmingly rejected the Presidents bid to restrict and outlaw private ownership of millions of weapons and gun accessories?
Going through the United Nations and now implementing Executive Actions to bypass Americas Constitutionally mandated system of checks and balances is an act of desperation.
Those who would take our rights have been left with no choice but to try and force their agenda upon us through dictatorial means.
Note: title was too long so it was shortened. Should read:
Executive Actions: Obama to Ban Importation of Ammo, Magazines and Gun Accessories Without Congressional Approval
we should ban imported jugg-eared marxists.
ILA/NRA are ready jug ears.
How the hell can he do that?
Let the petulant child do his thing. There will come a time when he will either regret what he has done or want something.
It sucks, but we have lived through this kind of thing before.
When? My memory isn't what it used to be.
What the illegal immigrant situation teaches us is , that if the group of people who violate the law is large it then becomes a sought after political groups.
He’s an insane communist.
But you already knew that.
executive orders can’t do this. they can’t just create legislation, they are only allowed to be orders for executive agencies. congress can’t allow this.
>>It sucks, but we have lived through this kind of thing before.
When? Not in this country, we haven’t!
Massive unemployment, a government that is importing terrorists and criminals, an uneducated electorate, unpayable national debt, outsourcing of manufacturing, GMO food, feminization of the military, jackbooted thugs kicking down doors, surveillance everywhere, databases, the assault on Christianity, the gaying of our children, etc....
The EOs to keep guns away from us isn’t happening in a vacuum. That marxist POS is attacking us on every side.
Whatever. Magazines are simple to fabricate. I look forward to paying cash for US produced steel mags from private sellers. The surplus ammo will dry up eventually and be replaced by commercial or home produced ammo anyway. What bothers me is, IF he does this it is a step down a very dangerous path, because there is no rational justification for it other than to put the populace at the mercy of federal forces. No other purpose whatsoever.
Looking back over the past 30 years of my work life, I can't remember anyone I knew being unemployed for any significant period of time, except for career changes.
I've been laid off twice in the past four years. Several members of our extended family are unemployed. Several of my friends have been unemployed, and many of my neighbors have been unemployed --some for years. The rate must be at least 15%
The same way that Bush 41 did, right about the time of his tantrum over the NRA's use of the phrase "jack-booted thugs" to describe BATF.
The '68 Gun Control Act gives ATF import/export oversight with regard to guns, ammo and certain accessories. The President really doesn't even need an executive order to do this (though Obama will use one to score political points with his supporters). The controls are already in the law, all he needs to do is call the BATF(E) administrator and direct him to exert the agency's authority in such a way to accomplish his goals.
If this is correct (and Rawles is usually fairly reliable), we've seen the last of the cheap 7.62x39 ammo and AK magazines (just two obvious examples). There might be some shipments already stateside that haven't made it out to retailers yet, but the prices sure won't be going anywhere but up.
King?!? No. Traitor? Yes!
Yes, I already know what BHO2 really is.
Much of this is already in GCA '68.
Congress doesn’t seem to have noticed yet. When they do, maybe something will happen.
Right now some Congress critters are fixated on the lies of Hillary Clinton, others on immigration ‘reform’, and still others on the fast and loose handling of deportations of “person’s of interest”.
John Boehner is an incompetent as Speaker and can’t get his troops in order.
federal law is pretty clear about when a person loses their RKBA because of mental ullness. A script for xanex or elavil or whatever doesn’t preclude firesrm ownership. You have to be declared mentally incompetent by a court and/or be committed to a mental hospital. I think it has to be involuntarily too.
As I have posted before, imported ammo has been sitting in containers on docks for a log time. Obama has already been doing this via Customs. This is one of the big reasons for the shortage. I wonder of there is litigation that has been moving through the legal system and Obama has to do something like this now.
***That might mean no more milsurp parts sets. No more milsurp magazines. No more milsurp ammo. No more milsurp optics. Perhaps not even spare firing pins. This could be ugly. ****
again reminds me of the 1968 Gun Control Law which banned the import of 5 shot bolt action army surplus rifles and and handguns, ammo, and small foreign made handguns. They also banned military “armaments”.
A TULSA gun shop was raided by the ATF because they were in violation because they imported....FLINTLOCK gun flints!
****It sucks, but we have lived through this kind of thing before.
When? My memory isn’t what it used to be. ****
Post 1968 after that travesty the 1968 Gun Control Law was passed.
Can an EO that effects commerce be legal?
The VA right now, today, can determine on their own a Vet cannot have a firearm.
What you say is the way it was BEFORE HUSSEIN. Hussein now gives a state money to encourage doctors to send medical records to the BATF. It will be the BATF and/or Holder that will make that decision by themselves. It will happen. I read the subject matter he was going to put in every executive order he was going to write to get control of guns and magazines and ammo..
Maybe Obama should halt the import of Muslims.
These are very high quality.
What is undoubtedly the worst president in the entire history of the United States, coupled with the most incompetent staff of addled Marxist ideologues ever assembled, are doing everything they possibly can to f*ck with gun owners - and just about everyone else on the right/conservative end of the spectrum, as well.
In December 2008 I wrote:
Welcome to New Kenya (Africa USA).
Where the law of the Jungle replaced the Law of the Land.
4 posted on Tue 09 Dec 2008 09:55:41 AM CST by Texas Fossil
Closer to 23%
Maybe we the people will export Won.
I can’t imagine anything that will sell more domestically produce ammo than an importation ban. Some gun owners will insist on having a mountain of ammo on hand before they stop buying.
Maybe we will treat him like Mel Zelaya in Honduras, pick him up in the middle of the night in a helicopter, fly him to the border an dump him off in a foreign country in his PJ’s.
Don't forget Bill Bennett was in on the gun import ban too.
He's a narcissistic liar.
Yes, I remember Bill Bennett’s role back then. The 1989 Semi-Auto Import Ban was also given some political cover by the domestic gun manufacturers who supported limiting the competition. I’ve always suspected that Bill Ruger’s policy on magazine capacity was somehow tied to this.
Congress can stop these executive orders.
As I noted in previous comments, some of this became law in 1968. It all comes down to BATF policies, which in turn come down to what the President tells that agency to do.
all true but still, it’s unprecedented and beyond the scope of his power. He can and will be challenged in court and beaten. The first of many expected lawsuits was just filed against the VA yesterday by the United States Justice Foundation btw. It will be a long, interesting, and very public fight.
I know, and that is the fault of John Boehner. The Democrats must be blackmailing him!
His EO will fail to stop people from getting ammo.
Yup, I plan on being the Mt Everest of inventory.
There, increased the accuracy of the statement...
So tell me what court would allow an executive order to be presented in the prosecution of an individual.
When the most popular gun related items that are being banned from import come to be in short supply - the Mexican Drug cartels can simply add them to the contraband they bring across the border. Cocaine and Marijuana can’t be imported but the cartels do it is massive quantities ... so a new product line is added by the Cartels ... wow Capitalism.
How can a man who could’ve stopped the Boston bombing but allowed it to happen to bolster his DHS ARMY, still be President?
On May 26, 1994, President Clinton announced the renewal of Most Favored Nation trading status for the People’s Republic of China. At the same time, however, in light of “continuing human rights abuses” in China, he announced certain trading sanctions against that country. One of the sanctions was a ban on the importation of munitions from China.....Customs subsequently advised its field agents that the embargo was effective as of May 28, 1994, and that all permits for importing arms from China had been rendered null and void. On June 27, 1994, BATF advised companies holding permits to import munitions from China that the embargo became effective on May 28 and that their permits were revoked as of that date. Congress subsequently enacted legislation that ameliorated the effect of the ban by providing that it would not be enforced with respect to shipments that, as of May 26, 1994, were in a bonded warehouse or foreign trade zone, in port, or in transit to the United States.
During a Rose Garden press briefing with uniformed police officers on hand, President Bill Clinton mentioned two specific weapons, the AK-47s manufactured by Russia, China and other nations, and the Uzi, an Israeli-made weapon. Such weapons, the president said, are not needed for deer hunting or skeet shooting.
Clinton said he was issuing the order based on the finding of a review prepared by the Treasury Department, the parent agency of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
“That is why our administration has concluded that the import of assault weapons that use large-capacity military magazines should be banned,” Clinton said.
The AK-47 and the Uzi, he said, “are military weapons, weapons of war. They were never meant for a day in the country, and they are certainly not meant for a night on the streets. Today, we are working to make sure they stay off our streets.”
As I said, “It sucks, but we have lived through this kind of think before.”
I think it is time to reign in this executive order nonsense.
Constitutional amendment? federal law?
Even judges should be worried since their rulings have no meaning. Eventually why even fund judges since an exective order can override a judicial ruling.
life appointments do not matter if court is closed.