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Our Internet Surveillance State
Crypto-Gram ^ | 3/15/13 | Bruce Schneier

Posted on 04/20/2013 1:03:03 PM PDT by zeugma

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There is really no way to escape it an be a part of today's society.
1 posted on 04/20/2013 1:03:03 PM PDT by zeugma
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Our Internet Surveillance State

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2 posted on 04/20/2013 1:09:45 PM PDT by LucyT
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Such a exponentially huge amound of info must surely be useful to only the most basic statistical analysis.

Imagine a worker in a cubical being given a 500,000 page print out and asked to find who in there likes Rice Crispies or has ever said FUBO.


3 posted on 04/20/2013 1:13:33 PM PDT by Huebolt (A country that has tipped will fall. RIP USA)
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Important data (e.g gun registration) is not comparable to favorite ice cream. The government already chokes on the amount of data it has so far, and it sure as heck doesn’t make us any safer. The best antidote is to make government smaller and keep it from nosing into the wrong areas.


4 posted on 04/20/2013 1:15:50 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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While I agree with you about information overload making it difficult to pinpoint any single person, they can use computers to comb the raw data with surprising efficiency.

The computer age is truly a different era of human history with different benefits and different dangers. We must learn to live with it because it is impossible to unplug ourselves.

It is almost certain that future homes will be computerized to the point that everything you do is do in your home will be recorded as “green mandates” turn off lights as you exit a room and control the thermostat to reduce heat or air where it is not needed. The technology already exists and the cost benefit already pays for itself.

Technology is a blessing and a curse.


5 posted on 04/20/2013 1:24:07 PM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: LucyT

LOL.They aren’t surveilling me. They took up residence in my computer! Who knows what this little laptop is responsible for.

For the record. If I’m connected to anything except criticizing the State, I didn’t do it. ;^)


6 posted on 04/20/2013 1:42:55 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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Now after the Boston bombing, I see the media and pundits are all happily assuring us that we need more Surveillance.


7 posted on 04/20/2013 1:44:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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A lot of the info is sold to advertisers.


8 posted on 04/20/2013 1:45:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Woohoo and howdy! to the black suit behind my screen.


9 posted on 04/20/2013 1:46:12 PM PDT by bgill
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[Imagine a worker in a cubical being given a 500,000 page print out and asked to find who in there likes Rice Crispies or has ever said FUBO.]

https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=FUBO+%22Rice+Crispies%22+site:www.freerepublic.com&;

2 results (0.13 seconds)


10 posted on 04/20/2013 1:46:57 PM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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Yeah... just posting on this thread probably registers me in some government database as a malcontent.


11 posted on 04/20/2013 1:47:25 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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Such a exponentially huge amound of info must surely be useful to only the most basic statistical analysis.

Actually, it's quite the opposite.

12 posted on 04/20/2013 1:49:56 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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Overwhelming with paper records, fairly simple with a data base.

If you use a grocery store affinity card, your grocery store already knows you buy Rice Crispies on a regular basis. They probably already send you email with Rice Crispies coupons...


13 posted on 04/20/2013 1:59:04 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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Nice list of articles.


14 posted on 04/20/2013 1:59:28 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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Wait until that brand spanking new NSA facility gets up and running in Utah


15 posted on 04/20/2013 2:03:28 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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16 posted on 04/20/2013 2:07:53 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: UCANSEE2
malcontent = try harder


             

17 posted on 04/20/2013 2:12:16 PM PDT by tomkat
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“Welcome to a world where your cell phone company knows exactly where you are all the time.”

Well, at least they know where my cell phone is all the time. Funny they won’t bother to help locate it when someone steals it though.


18 posted on 04/20/2013 2:25:42 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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Welcome to a world where your cell phone company knows exactly where you are all the time.”

Dr. Johnny Fever was right.

Johnny: [after hearing the sirens] It's the phone cops. They know what I did here today.

Venus: What are you talking about?

Johnny: They're coming to get me, man!

Venus: That's paranoia, man!

Johnny: Wake up, sucker, this is the phone company we're talking about! They see everything, they know everything, they got their own covert police force! I'm probably wired for sound right now! I gotta get out of here!

Venus: Johnny!

Johnny: Don't use my name!!

19 posted on 04/20/2013 2:31:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Imagine a worker in a cubical being given a 500,000 page print out and asked to find who in there likes Rice Crispies or has ever said FUBO.

If it were just that, it wouldn't be a big deal. The problem is. both Big Government and Big Business have programs to do all the scut work. Data mining is big freaking business and it's really only in its infancy. It's only going to get worse. You think you have anonymity on the internet, but unless you are taking really drastic measures to limit how they track you, then they are, and the data never goes away. I've seen emails I've sent to mailing lists 20 years ago that ended up on the net.

20 posted on 04/20/2013 3:13:10 PM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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