Posted on 04/18/2013 8:22:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
George W Bush: I'm comfortable with my legacy
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Considering that Republicans had the House from 2005 to 2006 the excuse that Barney Frank blocked anything is ridiculous.
OK, Bush got all those bad loans passed out in his first term as planned, got he re-elected as a result of (new happy homeowners), then he proposes something (wheres the equally grand speech?) when he has the congress ~ 2006 after its too late, so most of them lose those houses as a result and run to Obama.
What legacy is that? He had no trouble getting those bad loans out in the first place.
Good for you horge, now go away.
I disagree with you on that.the bushies are new world order types and the fastest way to achieve that end was to take down the gop and hand the election to the Marxist.The gop lost the house and the senate after we busted their asses over amnesty which really pissed off bush(I remember it well).We started losing right after that and it was by design.imo
There are still holdouts on FR who try to convince others Bush was some kind of conservative..
It’s laughable...And best to ignore this political cowflop.
Tell um them to check into the “Day in the life” worship thread.
I’m so happy he’s confortable with the legacy of giving us massive debt and obama. And I’m sure he’s comfortable with saying “It’s an honor to be the first president to say ‘Madam Speaker’.”
Chris Dodd and the 'Rats blocked the Financial Reform Act of 2005 in the Senate.
It died by filibuster.
Give him this: John McCain, one of the bill's sponsors, spoke in the Senate about what would happen if Fannie and Freddie were allowed to continue on their then current course. And it was an accurate description of what actually did happen.
Nonetheless, the 'Rats killed the bill via filibuster.
At which point, the 'Pubbies (and Bush) let it drop.
When the Democrats won control of Congress in 2006, all hope of reform was lost.
Can we not agree that they did nothing...for a reason?
I'd contend that the plug could've been pulled on Fannie and Freddie at almost anytime during 2008. Instead, they timed the crisis for mid-September so as to achieve maximum electoral impact.
Chuckie Schumer even set the stage in August, when he went public with the impending failure of IndyMac -- a bank the FDIC was discretely trying to place in stronger hands.
One might say the Democrats intentionally destroyed the economy, so they could win an election and pick up the pieces.
Undeclared??? Bush brought both Iraq and Afghanistan before Congress and both Houses approved the actions.....get a life tool.........
“Either you are with us or you are for the terrorists.”
~~George W. Bush
StrawMAN.!.............. agitprop....
thank you! i love all those things about him... i was so proud that he was my President during all those times... he is good and descent... my nephew was an Army Golden Knight back when George H.W. Bush did his first parachute jump on his birthday in Texas... afterward, the entire team was invited to hang out at the Bush’s home... he said they were the more hospitable people... so kind and nice to everybody... you would think they were just regular folks... i totally believe that about them...
hear, hear!
>> The refusal to defend him is the root of our problems.
Dubya’s as well.
your name speaks volumes... and so does mine... ha! :)
I certainly found much to fault about George W. Bush, but I think he did a great job in an extremely difficult time.
If you ask some of these people “Okay, who is, in YOUR opinion, an example of a President we have had in the past that we could put into office?” you are likely to get two answers: Calvin Coolidge or Ronald Reagan.
I find it hard to argue with Coolidge, and I love Reagan and what he did, but...hey, Reagan signed an immigration bill that gave amnesty to all illegal immigrants who were in this country before 1982. And the people like Ted Kennedy swore up and down that our immigration issues were over, they would not flood into this country, the borders would be secure, etc etc etc.
Reagan smiled that trademark smile, shook hands with Kennedy, O’Neill, et al, and we went on our way to where we are now. He is no different in that respect than Bush, except Bush was trying to get in front of the immigration issue going forward for different political reasons, he was pandering to hispanics.
Because Reagan happily signed that bill, that does not invalidate his approach to taxes, improving the military and making it an honorable place to be and so on.
There are just a lot of people who are going to flat out bitch, and they aren’t part of any solution going forward, because it is too darn much work to have to propose something on every single issue that will make any one person 100% happy.
Whether or not Rove told Bush not to answer his critics, it was ultimately Bush’s decision to respond or not. He is accountable, not the adviser ( Rove) he picked.
Bush is also accountable for the doubling of the national debt under his watch. Yes, during the last 2 years the Democrat Congress shares the blame. However Bush did not use his veto power to reign in spending during his 8 years. He also added significantly to federal education spending.
Federal Reserve Chairman and destroyer of the dollar Ben Bernanke is part of the G.W. Bush legacy. The decision to bail out the banks in 2008 was his as was the decision to appoint Goldman Sachs Chairman Henry Paulson Secretary of the Treasury. Timothy Geithner was appointed head of the NY Federal Reserve during the Bush administration. Bernanke, Paulson, and Geithner were Bush’s managers of the financial crisis. Every decision they made protected their Wall Street banking buddies at the expense of the taxpayer. TARP was their creation and part of the legacy. Crony capitalism ruled during the Bush administration.
Homeland Security and the Patriot Act are legacies of Mr. Bush. “Islam is the religion of peace” is a legacy. John Roberts on the Supreme Court is a legacy. Harriet Myers on the Court was almost a legacy.
Bush failed to secure the border and promoted amnesty for illegals. The first gun running with the cartels occurred during the Bush administration. He failed to take a tough line with China on trade contributing to the wholesale theft of US intellectual property and military secrets as well as the continued deindustrialization of the US economy that began during his father’s administration. China paid no price for the downing of a US plane early in his administration. These are all part of the legacy.
Two wars wasting thousands of American lives and over a trillion dollars of additional debt are part of the legacy. The end is the same as Vietnam
A shattered economy, a decade of decline in household income for the average American family for the first time in US history, doubling of the national debt, millions of illegal immigrants, the depreciation of the dollar, a nuclear North Korea, and two lost wars are the Bush legacy. Yes, his successor much worse, but Bush was a poor leader and a bad president. He was a progressive globalist statist and crony capitalist, not a conservative. A lover of liberty and the Constitution would never have created a homeland security department nor would he have requested the Patriot Act. He left the nation in much worse shape than it was at the beginning of his 8 years and he set the stage for the disaster we have today. If he is truly proud of his legacy then he is a fool.
2008?
The market started collapsing around Sept 2007 a year before that that final big TARP panic. By 2007 (really late 2005) house prices had been run up to completely unsustainable prices and a collapse was coming.
Any action to curb loaning by then just would have brought it on sooner not later. It was the Fed raising interest rates that did that.
The new Democrat House worked with Bush to pass ‘stimulus #1’ and a ban on light bulbs, they did something.
Heres what I got on this thread to describe Bush presidency:
1) ‘It was Roves fault’
2) ‘It was GOP in congress fault’
3) ‘It was Democrats fault’
4) ‘Whose side are you on anyway??’
(similar to ‘You are EITHER with US or you are with the terrorists’)
How about 'The Dems forced Bush to call for TARP' as #5??
This is not a legacy, it is a disaster.
I see it passed the House in Oct 2005.
I remember Fall 2005 and by then house prices had increased by close to 50% a year aveagwe for a few years after Bush's big speech taking credit for giving all those minorities with bad credit home loans. It was a bit late to undue that damage by then.
But what is missing is the big Bush speech calling for the undoing of what he called for in in 2002 speech. That would have given Bush apologists an argument at least.
The House price run up helped him in the 2004 election. The bust was coming.
Bush advocated repeatedly for the reform of Fannie Mae
Folks like you giving dems control in 2007 caused the complete deregulation of housing under franks leadership.
You all taught us a lesson in being conservative.
Reagan can do amnesty happily and be a hero. Bush discusses the topic and was dismissed.
You are not sick of libs. You’re pretty content to defend them as long as you can bash bush.
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