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George W Bush in his own words
The Telegraph ^ | 15 Apr 2013 | Chris Irvine

Posted on 04/18/2013 8:22:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

George W Bush: I'm comfortable with my legacy

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: bush43; bushlegacy; presidents
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1 posted on 04/18/2013 8:22:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Legacy??
Obama and Speaker Pelosi and resulting Obama-care and gays in military?
He is less popular than his dad.


2 posted on 04/18/2013 8:24:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

When we had an actual President in the White House.

3 posted on 04/18/2013 8:24:48 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I sure slept better with him in the white House not as good as when Reagan was President


4 posted on 04/18/2013 8:25:27 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m glad someone is.


5 posted on 04/18/2013 8:25:40 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: MinorityRepublican
I agree.

IBTBW (In Before The Bush Wackers).

6 posted on 04/18/2013 8:26:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: sickoflibs
Legacy?? Obama and Speaker Pelosi and resulting Obama-care and gays in military?

To which I'll add: two undeclared wars, both of which will eventually end like the Vietnam War did.

7 posted on 04/18/2013 8:29:31 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: sickoflibs
Legacies are not about actions forward in time. Bush did not bring us Obozo. That was the result of a completely inept GOP, which has become more inept since.
8 posted on 04/18/2013 8:30:44 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Leaning Right

Undeclared? Ah, the Mantra of the left!!!!!


9 posted on 04/18/2013 8:31:33 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

bragging again huh bush. rove begat bush begat obama.


10 posted on 04/18/2013 8:33:46 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: SoldierDad
Undeclared? Ah, the Mantra of the left!!!!!

No, sir. It's the mantra of the Constitution. After 9/11, Bush should have asked for a declaration of war. 9/11 was our December 7th.

But Bush was more interested in nation-building than in crushing radical islam. Result: Afganistan = Vietnam repeated.

11 posted on 04/18/2013 8:36:53 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Leaning Right
RE :”To which I'll add: two undeclared wars, both of which will eventually end like the Vietnam War did. “

Yes, I was a Bush-bot in 2003 foolishly telling friends that he know what he was doing.

It wasnt till late 2006 after that election loss and Bush suddenly realizes that Iraq is going badly and suddenly demands surge funding from the New Pelosi house to fix it that I realized what a curse his presidency would be, then I got to painfully watch it play out for another two long years.

Even after that 2008 election I got some grief here for pointing this out, but I met many good friends here in the process too.

12 posted on 04/18/2013 8:40:53 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Leaning Right
There was a declaration! Congress signed off on both Afghanistan and Iraq. What more do you want with respect to both of these being legal wars? As far as Afghanistan becoming “Vietnam”, that is attributable to Obozo.
13 posted on 04/18/2013 8:43:19 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: sickoflibs
How do you forget so easily?

"Either you are with us
 or you are for the terrorists."
~~George W. Bush

14 posted on 04/18/2013 8:43:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SoldierDad
RE :”Legacies are not about actions forward in time. Bush did not bring us Obozo. That was the result of a completely inept GOP, which has become more inept since.”

So it was all the GOP’s in congress fault, but not the GOP POTUS who was their leader.

Are you consistent and give O the free pass too?

Obviously not.

15 posted on 04/18/2013 8:44:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I have my issues with GW though I hope we Never have another leader as Barrack Hussein Obama. At times, I miss GW when he was not acting like a compassionate liberal. I do not respect marxist Obama, communist Carter and those trashy Clintons.


16 posted on 04/18/2013 8:44:53 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Salvation

:)

You got it.


17 posted on 04/18/2013 8:45:02 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Bush was unable to run in 2008. That put the onus on the GOP to bring forth a candidate that could match up against Obozo. Instead, we were given McLame. That was not under the control of Bush. I’ve heard enough from the liberals the past 6+ years about how everything is Bush’s fault. It isn’t necessary to read it on FR too.


18 posted on 04/18/2013 8:46:51 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I still feel strongly that bush was a great president.

The refusal to defend him is the root of our problems. We allow the mediators to destroy the image of good leaders.

We play along as if we will gain the favor of independents. We won’t.

People in Britain celebrated thatchers death. Bush is hated.

Making enemies is a sign of character.


19 posted on 04/18/2013 8:50:07 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: MinorityRepublican

still love him! a good man... a tough man... a humble man... a real man... a perfect man? no, but i miss him...


20 posted on 04/18/2013 8:54:15 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: SoldierDad
There was a declaration!

Again, no sir. A Congressional authorization to use force is not a declaration of war. Only a declaration of war is a declaration of war.

An authorization to use force is just a weak, unconstitutional way for everyone involved to avoid committing themselves fully. It's the coward's way out.

As far as Afghanistan becoming “Vietnam”, that is attributable to Obozo.

Again, no sir. Afghanistan and Iraq belong to Bush, just as Vietnam belongs to LBJ, and not to Nixon or Ford.

And for what it's worth, I say all this with a heavy heart. Bush is a very decent man, and he did keep the homeland safe after 9/11 (no small feat).

But he dropped the ball in regards to Afghanistan and Iraq, no way around it. And we will pay for that for decades to come.

21 posted on 04/18/2013 8:54:19 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: SoldierDad
RE :”Bush was unable to run in 2008”

His approval was like at 20% in 2008. That comment is pointless. He left nothing but disaster.

And left lost of excuses,’Oh the complete collapse of the economy after his 8 years was all Barney Franks fault’

You wouldnt buy such idiotic BS from Obama.

22 posted on 04/18/2013 8:55:27 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Leaning Right

I specifically remember too how GWB swore that the Iraq and Afghanistan mission would NOT end like Vietnam!


23 posted on 04/18/2013 8:58:32 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m sorry, but GWB doesn’t do anything for me. My four votes for him didn’t do much.


24 posted on 04/18/2013 8:59:30 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: sickoflibs

I must disagree here. The 2006 election had a huge impact on the economic collapse, as did the oversight (or lack thereof) of Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac and the resultant packaging and reselling of loans on wall street. Bush warned congress 17 times about the impending economic collapse, and Barney Frank went on T.V. crowing loudly about how wrong Bush was. What more could Bush, who at that point, thanks mightily by the Lame Stream Media, had little support from anyone.


25 posted on 04/18/2013 9:02:00 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Theodore R.
RE :”I specifically remember too how GWB swore that the Iraq and Afghanistan mission would NOT end like Vietnam!”

BOOM! You got it!

He and Cheney convinced us that it would be like WWII except Iraq would pay for its rebuilding with oil.

26 posted on 04/18/2013 9:02:18 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Leaning Right
But he dropped the ball in regards to Afghanistan and Iraq, no way around it. And we will pay for that for decades to come.

The ball was dropped beginning Jan 20, 2009.

27 posted on 04/18/2013 9:03:25 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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Undeclared? Ah, the Mantra of the left!!!!!

Yep!
Looks like you scooped up a troll. You're good!

28 posted on 04/18/2013 9:04:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: sickoflibs; SoldierDad
His approval was like at 20% in 2008

That was Roves doing. AND the MSM. They lied consistently. He freely admitted that he told Bush NOT to answer critics. This current mess is more Roves fault than it is Bush. Rove is a Rino.

29 posted on 04/18/2013 9:05:35 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: SoldierDad

He was certainly a long sight better than obozo, but that ain’t sayin’ much.
He lost me with five words: “See ya at the signin’”. (Amnesty)


30 posted on 04/18/2013 9:05:51 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; MinorityRepublican

I agree with both of you. I think history will look kindly on GW. He faced tremendous challenges unlike any president in recent memory, and did it with courage and dignity. He loves America and did his best, with the knowledge he had, to protect her. He will be remembered well.

And btw—if I heard right, he’s now a grandfather! May he have many years to enjoy that delight. When my boss’ grandchildren (between about three and six, IIRC), come into the office, he lights up like a sparkler. :)


31 posted on 04/18/2013 9:06:42 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (R.I.P., James Helmuth, my nephew who passed away at ten years old, from cancer, on March 23.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Democrats took over jan 2007 and the nation went straight to hell.

Yet people on FR blame bush.

Deficit in 2007 was 160 billion.

Today the deficit is almost ten times that amount.

Compare Iraq to Egypt Libya or Syria and it looks pretty good by comparison.

There were no terror attacks on the us after 911. Bush fought hard and successfully for a too ungrateful nation.

Katrina was a success and not a failure. Casualty rate was 90 percent lower than experts predicted due to a massive military action to save lives.


32 posted on 04/18/2013 9:07:04 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: Theodore R.
I specifically remember too how GWB swore that the Iraq and Afghanistan mission would NOT end like Vietnam!

Within the next few years we will absolutely see US helicopters take panicked Americans off from the rooftop of the embassy at Kabul. It will be like the fall of Saigon, only worse.

And I say worse because Ho Chi Minh had no real desire for a caliphate stretching from Europe to China. But the radical islamists want just that. And they may eventually get it, all because Bush did not rally the West to crush radical islam in the days after 9/11.

33 posted on 04/18/2013 9:07:41 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I always find it interesting when you see people whining about “undeclared wars”, and you know they are the people who will scream the loudest when nothing or little is done after 3000 people are killed.


34 posted on 04/18/2013 9:07:54 PM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: MinorityRepublican

George Bush was great. He got tax cuts for everybody, finally took on Islamic terror after the cowardly Clinton did nothing, and got a bunch of pretty good justices on the Supreme Court and US District courts. He wasn’t perfect and I certainly didn’t agree with him on everything, but compared to the homosexual African communist the country has now? Wow. No contest.


35 posted on 04/18/2013 9:07:55 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SoldierDad
RE :” Bush warned congress 17 times about the impending economic collapse, and Barney Frank went on T.V. crowing loudly about how wrong Bush was. “

I dont remember him doing that once till the TARP vote when it was way too late/

I do remember this though:

President Bush Mortgage Speech 2002(Helping those w bad credit buy houses)

President Bush Reiterates Goal on Homeownership, Remarks by the President on Homeownership, Department of Housing and Urban Development Washington, D.C. (2002)

Early in George W. Bush’s first administration, a home ownership initiative was introduced, sometimes referred to as the Blueprint for the American Dream, to close the homeownership gap by 5.5 million minority families. Along with this homeownership initiative, there were other policies implemented to dismantle barriers to homeownership in minority communities.” from :
The Great American Mortgage Scam & The Latino Community

George W. Bush, The White House.gov: Homeownership Continues to Increase in 2002 , HUD Statement on Record Homeownership Rates in 2002

George W. Bush, The White House.gov: National Homeownership Month, 2003, By the President of the United States of America A Proclamation

36 posted on 04/18/2013 9:09:52 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: tumblindice; SoldierDad
You preferred Kerry or Gore?

His first 4 years he took advice from Cheney. The last four from Rove.

37 posted on 04/18/2013 9:10:08 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW
RE :”That was Roves doing. AND the MSM. They lied consistently. He freely admitted that he told Bush NOT to answer critics. This current mess is more Roves fault than it is Bush. Rove is a Rino”

Who hired Rove? Who was POTUS? Was it Rove?

Do you make these same lame excuses for Obama ?(rhetorical) Was it all Axelrods fault?

38 posted on 04/18/2013 9:12:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: latina4dubya

I miss him too. He respected the office of the presidency and has a generous heart; I wish I could post two photos: one, of him hugging that little girl, with tears in his eyes, who had lost her father on 9-11, and the other, with him shouting into the bullhorn on top of the WTC rubble, telling terrorists they won’t win.

And oh, yeah, a photo compare-contrast of him throwing a great pitch while wearing a bullet-proof vest on opening day, compared to Obama’s lame pitch. LOL ;)


39 posted on 04/18/2013 9:13:21 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (R.I.P., James Helmuth, my nephew who passed away at ten years old, from cancer, on March 23.)
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To: SoldierDad
The ball was dropped beginning Jan 20, 2009.

Here we will agree. I rate Bush a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. As I mentioned before, he did keep the homeland safe, and that's worth something. When rating Obama, I'd have to go deep into negative numbers.

40 posted on 04/18/2013 9:13:33 PM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: sickoflibs; SoldierDad
New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae - September 11, 2003
41 posted on 04/18/2013 9:15:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: sickoflibs
Give it rest. The Commies have their act together and the Conservatives are infiltrated by newborn liberals called Republicans.

Whose side are YOU on?

42 posted on 04/18/2013 9:17:18 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW; SoldierDad; Theodore R.; Salvation; Leaning Right
GWB 2002 Speech :”More and more people own their homes in America today. Yet we have a problem here in America because fewer than half the Hispanics and African Americans own their own homes. That’s a home ownership gap; a gap that we got to work together to close. And by the end of this decade we’ll increase the number of minority homeowners (future Obama voters ) by 5.5 million families.
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“One of the major obstacles to minority home-ownership is financing. Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac (who I will bail out in 2008) have committed to provide more money for lenders, they committed to meet the shortage of capital available for minority home-buyers. Freddie Mac just began 25 initiatives around the country to dismantle barriers (like income requirements) and create better opportunities for home-ownership. One of the programs is designed to help families with bad credit histories to qualify for home ownership loans (by faking their income) . You don’t have to have a lousy home for first time home-buyers. You put your mind to it the first time low income home buyer can have just as nice a house as anyone else (till those adjustable rates go up). “

President Bush Mortgage Speech 2002(Helping those w bad credit buy houses)
43 posted on 04/18/2013 9:19:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs; SoldierDad
Can you read? That was from 2002. He changed his position. Obviously he got better info. There was a bill in 2005 or 06 to control Fannie and Freddie and it was shot down by Dems too.

Whether you like it or not Bush tried to stop what was coming.

44 posted on 04/18/2013 9:22:12 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW
RE :”Whose side are YOU on? “

In your imaginary world Bush is running again and us repeating those many years old lame excuses for Bush that failed for 6 years will suddenly work now?

Bush got us Obama and Pelosi. Now amount of creative fiction will undo that.

45 posted on 04/18/2013 9:22:53 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Like I said, Dubya was a long sight better than Obama. His position on rewarding bad behavior with “comprehensive immigration reform” though was flat wrong. Do you want that in espanol, amigo?


46 posted on 04/18/2013 9:23:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: sickoflibs
You didn't answer. Whose side are you on?

Bush got us Obama and Pelosi.

Nope. It usually goes "R", "D", "R". It's the pattern.

The lousy, spinless, foolish Republican Congress got us Pelosi.

47 posted on 04/18/2013 9:25:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: tumblindice
Why the insults? I haven't mentioned immigration one way or another. Capiche?

He was also wrong on the Dubai port deal and Harried Miers. So what? Are you always right?

48 posted on 04/18/2013 9:27:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW; SoldierDad
RE :”Can you read? That was from 2002. He changed his position. Obviously he got better info. There was a bill in 2005 or 06 to control Fannie and Freddie and it was shot down by Dems too.”

The Fannie and Freddie that followed his mission to give millions of bad loans?

By 2006 it was too late. House prices had run up to unsustainable levels and were at a peak. It was going down and all those minorities w bad credit were the first to go.

Do we give Obama a free pass too?
‘The GOP opposed him so he has no responsibility’

Pretty transparent.

49 posted on 04/18/2013 9:28:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs
AGAIN: New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae - September 11, 2003
50 posted on 04/18/2013 9:30:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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