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Feinstein Amendment Fails 60-40
CSPAN ^ | April 17, 2013 | US Senate

Posted on 04/17/2013 2:46:51 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA

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Don't let your guards down. More to come from the commies.
1 posted on 04/17/2013 2:46:51 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

Agreed. Keep the pressure on, to keep our God-given rights alive.


2 posted on 04/17/2013 2:48:36 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: ConservativeInPA

>>> .... massively failed 60-40

It means 60 nay 60 yay?


3 posted on 04/17/2013 2:48:41 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

60 nay, 40 yay?


4 posted on 04/17/2013 2:49:09 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: ConservativeInPA

5 posted on 04/17/2013 2:49:11 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Sir Napsalot

That’s right.


6 posted on 04/17/2013 2:49:20 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: ConservativeInPA

Good. Now go away y’old toad.


7 posted on 04/17/2013 2:49:20 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: ConservativeInPA

Colorado is in danger also.


8 posted on 04/17/2013 2:49:42 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

At least she can say she was the onLy Senator to get 60 votes!


9 posted on 04/17/2013 2:50:13 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: ConservativeInPA

This War on our Rights is the same as the WOT: The enemy is relentless and has to be stopped EVERY SINGLE TIME. They need only succeed once.

obozocare was freedom’s 911. Any successful attack on the 2nd Amendment will be freedom’s Boston Marathon (general parallels of course).


10 posted on 04/17/2013 2:50:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Failed means 60 nay.


11 posted on 04/17/2013 2:50:47 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Watch for Presidential action on this. Obama will just rule illegially by Presidential order.


12 posted on 04/17/2013 2:51:25 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: ConservativeInPA

Hey that’s the kind of bipartisanship I like! How do these issues which barely 4% of the public think is important get this much attention. These gun control nuts are on the wrong side of history. :-)


13 posted on 04/17/2013 2:51:26 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: ConservativeInPA

14 posted on 04/17/2013 2:51:57 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: ConservativeInPA

Who are the 40 traitors to the Constitution?


15 posted on 04/17/2013 2:52:03 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Newbomb Turk

Obummer is PISSED!


16 posted on 04/17/2013 2:52:42 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: Newbomb Turk

brocko is making a speech right now that sounds like a butt-hurt little boy; one of the most immature speeches in the history of the nation. Nausea city.


17 posted on 04/17/2013 2:53:23 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: ConservativeInPA

The federal Assault Weapons Ban stays buried. It wasn’t close: 40 yes votes, 60 no

:-)


18 posted on 04/17/2013 2:54:10 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: ConservativeInPA

There will be many more Fast and Furious and Boston Marathon evets to expand the government.


19 posted on 04/17/2013 2:54:12 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Absolutely.

I enjoyed the tantrum and scolding, though.

Of course, now we’ll get “give him the immigration bill since you reamed him on guns”.

Everything this puke wants should be defeated. Nobody needs to read any 1500 page bill.


20 posted on 04/17/2013 2:54:45 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Is that different from the following, which is at your link?

By a vote of 54 to 46, the Senate defeated the Manchin-Toomey Amendment to S649, the gun legislation bill which Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) introduced last week. The amendment would have expanded background checks for the purchase of firearms as well as create a commission to study the causes of mass violence in the U.S. There are eight more amendments to be voted on.

Updated: 7 min. ago

21 posted on 04/17/2013 2:55:04 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: WakeUpAndVote

Yeah, I just passed by the TV and I see he’s throwing a presidential hissy fit.


22 posted on 04/17/2013 2:55:21 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (The Cardinals chose wisely.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Who are the 40 traitors to the Constitution?

Too soon to post a link, but if I was following it correctly, don't hold me to this, Kirk (R-IL) voted for the amendment. He was the only RINO. The rest were the usual Rat suspects.

23 posted on 04/17/2013 2:56:08 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Feinstien wants to disarm law abiding Americans. She obviously favors many more murders, rapes and armed robberies.


24 posted on 04/17/2013 2:56:13 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Ken H

Yes that is different. They are voting on 6 amendments today, and 2 more tomorrow. The Toomey, Schumer, Manchin amendment was defeated, which is excellent news.


25 posted on 04/17/2013 2:58:00 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA

It’s time to start the counter attack and be as politically ruthless as they are.

Make the emperor and his totalitarian toads at every political level, pay and pay dearly!!!


26 posted on 04/17/2013 3:00:02 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Do you have a link because I’m watching CSPAN too and I didn’t see this.


27 posted on 04/17/2013 3:00:31 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Sir Napsalot

40 for the amendment, 60 against. Obama is sensing a huge loss on one of his key initiatives and is pissed. His speech patterns and mannerisms are one of a very angry person.


28 posted on 04/17/2013 3:02:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

He will probably author more false flag events(yes, I belive some of these shootings might be “inside jobs”) just for the heck of it.


29 posted on 04/17/2013 3:07:41 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: ConservativeInPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeMrttj8Ucg


30 posted on 04/17/2013 3:08:08 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: ConservativeInPA

Take THAT you traitor.

Take a hint and let it die, you are only making a liberal fool of yourself, but I repeat myself...


31 posted on 04/17/2013 3:09:39 PM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: ConservativeInPA

FYI...on the NY Safe Act

Albany Police Officers Union, local 2841, “We respectfully demand that you do the right thing and repeal the law.”

The letter:

To: Andrew M. Cuomo / Dean G. Skelos / Neil D. Breslin / John T- McDonald III / Phil Steck / Sheldon Silver / Jeffrey D. Klein / Cecilia Tkaczyk / Patricia Fahy Note; see the formal list of people this letter went to at the bottom.

April 15,2013

Honorable Ladies and Gentlemen:

The Albany Police Officers Union condemns and opposes the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act (the SAFE Act) Substantively, we believe that it violates fundamental constitutional rights, that it is unduly and purposely burdensome on law-abiding citizens, and” that it will not deter criminals or menially ill individuals from plotting and carrying out bloodshed and violence. Procedurally, we believe that the way in which the bill was rammed into law via an unjustified and expedient “message of necessity”, which circumvents the right and the ability of the citizens of this State to voice their concerns about the bill and have them addressed, is an outrage. This flawed law’ and the w ay in which it was rushed and passed., shows the apparent contempt that those who govern have for the governed, and. calls into question whether we truly have a representational government. Morally, we believe that this law is about ideology and politics and not about making anyone any safer. We respectfully demand that you do the right thing and repeal the law.

First, while we applaud and support your overall concern for public safety and your desire to improve it. The SAFE Act will not improve public safety. Criminals and the mentally ill will not abide by it, and it is either foolish or dishonest to think or suggest otherwise. While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law and not load a ten-round magazine with more than seven rounds, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence not load ten rounds into a ten-round magazine? While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law that previously legal thirty-round magazines must be sold within one-year to an out-of-state resident or turn in to local authorities, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to sell or turn in his thirty-round magazines? While law-abiding citizens will abide by the law requiring that they register weapons which they already do and which have been deemed “assault weapons”, do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to do so? Do you really expect a criminal or mentally ill individual intent on doing violence to be concerned about any increase in penalties for shooting first responders? Do you really expect that a mentally ill individual who owns firearms and who is intent on doing violence will voice his intentions to his or her mental health professional and thus put into motion the confiscation of his or her firearms? Do you-really expect that a mentally ill individual will “safely store” his firearms? Of course you don’t. Again, only law-abiding citizens, who are not intent on doing violence, will abide the NY SAFE Act criminals and the mentally ill who are intent on doing violence will not do so. The public will not be any safer under this 1aw. What then, have you accomplished?

Second., the SAFE Act carries with it unfair burdens on law abiding citizen. What is the point of making law-abiding citizens register their previously lawfully owned and lawfully used firearms which are now deemed to be “assault weapons”? What is the point of making law-abiding citizens who affirmatively “opt into” protection from public identification that they hold permits or own firearms? What is the point of making law-abiding citizens renew their pistol permits or “assault weapon” registrations every five years? Why are you preemptively punishing those who have done nothing wrong?

Third, -we fully believe that the SAFE ACT broad prohibitions against will not. withstand constitutional challenge and scrutiny. The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides and U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly upheld the right of individuals to possess and carry firearms and to use them for lawful purposes. The SAFE Act, however, infringes on that right as it bans the possession and use of certain firearms that were heretofore possessed and” used lawfully for the defense of life, liberty, and property, and as it bans the possession and use of certain firearms that were heretofore possessed and used lawfully for safe use of firearms recreation, hunting, and shooting.

We as police officers are on the front lines of public safety. Respectfully, none of you are. We see, feel, work, and live with the effects of gun violence in ways that you cannot. We believe that you see gun violence as a means to move your agenda and your ambitions forward. You know that the SAFE Act will not work in the way that you pretend it will. You know that this shameful SAFE Act was about ideology and politics and not about making anyone safer.

Regarding the reduction in violent crime this new legislation is proposed to have, in 2011 the most current year for which FBI crime statistics are available, New York State had 77l homicides, 445 were committed with a firearm, 394 of that 445 were committed with a handgun, 5 were committed with a rifle, 16 were committed with a shotgun, in 30 the firearm type was unknown, 160 were committed with a cutting instrument, 143 were committed with another type of weapon, and 26 were committed with bare hands. We believe based on these statistics, that the SAFE Act will do nothing to reduce violent crime as the primary target of the legislation is the “assault rifle” which would be included statistically with standard rifles and used in less than 1% of New York homicides in 2011.These so called “Assault Weapons” were not used in the commission of one reported crime in Albany County in 2011.

For the reasons set forth above, the Albany Police Union believes that the SAFE Act is wrong - substantively, procedurally, and morally. The SAFE Act infringes on the rights of law-abiding citizens, it will burden and negatively impact firearms ownership by law-abiding citizens and will not affect the willingness of criminals or those who are mentally ill from perpetrating violence. Again, we respectfully demand that each and all of you do the right thing and repeal the law. Very truly yours,

Thomas Mahar: President Albany Police Officers Union, local 2841 Council 82, AFSCME, AFI-CIO


32 posted on 04/17/2013 3:10:27 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: MachIV

“He will probably author more false flag events(yes, I belive some of these shootings might be “inside jobs”) just for the heck of it.”

-The phrase Obama used was “under the radar”.

Never let down your guard. Marxist slime never sleep.


33 posted on 04/17/2013 3:11:23 PM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Toomey needs to be remembered for this act of treason and his ass punished at the election booth, for what that’s worth.


34 posted on 04/17/2013 3:11:27 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: ConservativeInPA

Mark these 40 as major traitors and haters of free citizens.


35 posted on 04/17/2013 3:12:27 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Put some ice on it, Dianne.

< /clinton-rapist>

36 posted on 04/17/2013 3:17:31 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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37 posted on 04/17/2013 3:18:20 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Maelstorm

Savor the moment, but not for long, because just like with the sodomites’ agenda-law is never considered “settled” until they’ve gotten their way. Then they go around telling us that, for instance, obamacare is “settled law” and we need to just drop it and move on to “more important” things. Because once they’ve passed their laws, it’s no longer important to them, so it shouldn’t be important to anyone anymore. This is their MO straight out of Alinsky.

So we musn’t get complacent, not for a second. They’ll be back for round 6003, and each time they work the propaganda on the sheeple until their polls are finally accurate in their favor.


38 posted on 04/17/2013 3:19:21 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Fitzy_888

It is actions like this from the police union, that restores my faith in those who took that oath to uphold and defend the constitution.

Those police officers who are represented by that letter will have a whole lot more friends out there if the people they serve believe they represent constitutional principles in the execution of their duties.


39 posted on 04/17/2013 3:27:58 PM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: WakeUpAndVote

YES, he is...and seeing him pissed put a very big smile on my face.

Frankly, it was one of the best moments I have had in nearly five long years.


40 posted on 04/17/2013 3:28:11 PM PDT by Gator113 ( ~just keep livin~ I drink good wine, listen to good music and dream good dreams.)
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To: Stormdog
Exactly, re the counterattack. Instead of our leaders wiping their brows and saying "Whew that was a close one", they need be to be ready immediately this is done to go on the offensive-showing how guns save lives, showing the murder rates amongst those who obtained their guns illegally, and most of all, showing how cutting the Second Amendment into pieces Always means that we don't get all the pieces back once they're done. They need to show how the Second Amendment is of one piece, which says, unequivocally, that government shall make NO laws infringing upon our rights to keep and bear arms. That doesn't mean a "right to hunt". They need to return gun rights to most felons. Those with criminal intent will get them anyway, and those who have rehabilitated or weren't the for violent crimes should have the same rights to defend themselves and their family as other citizens. The government turns a blind eye to blatant scoff-laws-illegal immigrants-when they do so.
41 posted on 04/17/2013 3:30:18 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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So we musn’t get complacent, not for a second. They’ll be back for round 6003, and each time they work the propaganda on the sheeple until their polls are finally accurate in their favor.


Maybe, but you can only push the proverbial uphill for so long. Eventually it must smother you. I truly believe that the progressives have hurt themselves for a hundred years. A hundred years if we can find just one good Conservative leader. Someone to keep this ball rolling. If we can get it rolling fast enough with enough mass, no damn liberal will dare stand in its way. America is not over


42 posted on 04/17/2013 3:31:55 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Don't forget love)
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To: MachIV

I expect it. We need to counter that by showing the high gun homicide rates in places like Chicago where the majority of gun crimes were committed by criminals who couldn’t have passed present checks. We need to show how honest citizens have used their guns to protect their wives and families. They can’t expect the MSM to carry their water, it won’t happen. The politicians are going to have to go around the media as best they can and make these points directly to Americans.


43 posted on 04/17/2013 3:33:47 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: mrsmel

You are exactly right they never give up. It is good to see things like global warming, abortion, and gun control shaping up fairly well in our direction even though we have tough fights like this and will continue to. I also believe we will succeed in holding the line on the gay issue it is tougher because they so often succeed in shutting down the conversation with Political Correctness however that tool is a dangerous one to wield and is not popular at all with the public and I believe it will be their undoing especially if conservative media gets off its bottom and keeps highlighting when the draconian though police are about. I remember during the 90s when this kind of gun control would’ve made it through congress fairly easily so that is comforting. I fully expected this to pass. Its great that it didn’t.


44 posted on 04/17/2013 3:34:16 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: MachIV

What a whiney diatribe by the POtuS.

and Bald face lie! 90% of the people supported these bills!

He overeaches - 90% of the people know that’s a lie.

he’l losing credibility now with his own base -


45 posted on 04/17/2013 3:36:23 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: ConservativeInPA

The magazine ammendment went down 46-54.


46 posted on 04/17/2013 3:38:01 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Yeppers. Like what Odumbo once said: “get in their faces” (no matter how ugly these libtards are)


47 posted on 04/17/2013 3:39:56 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: ConservativeInPA

Obama is crying like a little bitch

Thank you Republicans for standing strong for freedom and our gun rights


48 posted on 04/17/2013 3:49:05 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Mary Landrieu voted for the UN to take away our 2nd amendment rights)
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To: ConservativeInPA

The amendment DIed and that’s Fein by me!


49 posted on 04/17/2013 3:49:52 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I need to change my tagline.)
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To: ari-freedom

Toomey that is good.


50 posted on 04/17/2013 3:50:54 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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