Skip to comments.Rick Warren Says Late Son Got Illegal Gun on Internet
Posted on 04/12/2013 5:00:21 PM PDT by yongin
Pastor Rick Warren said Thursday that his son, Matthew, purchased an unregistered gun over the Internet. It was that weapon that he used to take his own life last week after years of battling mental illness. "Someone on the internet sold Matthew an unregistered gun. I pray he seeks God's forgiveness. I forgive him. #MATTHEW 6:15," Warren tweeted Thursday. The Orange County Sheriff's Department told the Associated Press it is trying to identify the seller, but the gun's serial number was unreadable, making it difficult to trace the firearm.
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Disgusting that media is using the tragedy of Rick Warren’s son for the anti-2nd Amendement agenda.
Hey Rick - you can disregard anything I said about you. The left was right - you are a putz.
Only way that happened is if was using the underground through a service such as TOR. Even then, it would demonstrate he was able to do some very complex things and acquire an arm that is completely untraceable.
He would also need quite a bit of money.
Rick Warren has been friendly with Obama in the past. I hope Obama doesn’t decide to invite Rick Warren to Congress to testify on how the Toomey/Manchin bill would have “saved” his son’s life.
What in God’s name is an “unregistered gun”? And is an “unregistered gun” the same as an “illegal gun”?
By the way, isn’t it nice of Rick Warren to “forgive” the poor guy who simply sold a gun to somebody who probably could have walked into Dick’s or LL Bean’s or any number of other places and bought a shotgun over the counter anytime he wanted to?
Are you saying Rick is lying?
Does anyone know what “unregistered” means? I’ve heard it for years (back when I had a TV.) When were we required to register guns? Perhaps he meant it didn’t get the form required by the FFL? How on Earth did he get a gun on the internet without having it sent to an FFL?
Having said that, I’ve bought guns off other attendees at gun shows. (Annoys the dealers no end.) No paperwork, just cash. Picked up a cop’s long barrel 38 in practically unfired condition for $400.
BTW doesn’t California have a lot of tough anti-gun laws? Which leaves the question, why was the “hot” attorney general, according to Obama, enforcing those laws?
It will be nearly impossible to trace where pastor Rick Warrens son bought the shotgun he used to take his own life last week, an Orange County Sheriffs Department official said.
The gun that 27-year-old Matthew Warren used to shoot himself in his Mission Viejo home on April 5 was unregistered, had its serial numbers scratched off and was purchased online, said department spokesman Jim Amormino. A source close to the investigation confirmed it was a shotgun.
[At one point in time, it may have been [registered], but its going to be impossible to find out.]
The FBI lab can usually raise these numbers if they are stamped on.
He may be referring to an online forum. Unless the seller used a disposable phone and forum ID to arrange the transaction, he will probably be found. However the gun was sold, though, it’s not as if he pointed the gun at Warren’s son’s head.
The story is BS.
I believe California requires registration.
That story just doesn’t sound right.
There is undoubtedly more to the story and the way it is being described as if all guns are supposed to be registered.
In what way?
“BS” to me means “untrue”. Do you mean something else?
If he bought in online there must be some record of it in his email or on a credit card. It can’t be that difficult to find out.
How? Did he meet someone sketchy on Craigslist and arrange a purchase? I’m pretty sure Cheaper Than Dirt won’t ship w/o an FFL.
I would assume they're looking at his computer and financial records, for that very reason.
Proof Warren is a POS.
My observation has been that most people who endlessly couple the words “registered” and “gun” together as if they were one word or solid thought come from leftwing 5th column blue states with draconian gun laws including the registration of handguns and have required these regulations for many years. These folks just assume it’s that way everywhere.
I guess it’s easier to blame guns then his failed role as a father.
So they know it was purchased online, unlawfully and illegally but, they can’t trace it???
they know it was bought online but can’t trace IP’s and they want me to believe this poor soul bought it off the Internet?
Perhaps the true meaning is the equivalent of off the highway ie; he went to buy an illegal gun, in a parking lot, off the highway/Internet....but not far???
All firearms, save antique or curio long guns, must be transferred thru an FFL. Handguns and assault weapons must be registered and starting Jan 2014, long guns too will require registration.
Disgusting that media is using the tragedy of Rick Warrens son for the anti-2nd Amendement agenda.
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I am NO fan of the media, but it looks like Warren is ‘using’ the media for this own agenda, of course my BS sensor is going off like a Klaxon Horn on a Crash Diving Submarine.
I think if my son had just shot himself one of the last things on my mind would be ‘tweeting’ information pertinent to maybe catching the guy that supplied the gun
No, I do not mean anything other than “The story is Bogus, Bunk and BS”.
Horsecrap. The FBI has had the ability to read serial numbers that have been ground off with a power grinder, based on the metal deformation in the metal by the number stamps.
And they've had that ability for years.
Scratched off serial numbers can still be read.
I’ll says this. Warren is a fraud from the word “go” .
Matthew's mental illness had nothing to do with failed parenting.
unless it was a private sale between individuals, ummm, no, rick. just no.
I think Rick is just trying to shift blame, to some unknown person.The Kid was old enough he could have bought a gun anywhere. What is with the “ unregistered” B/S.??
Depends on how deep the grinder cut is. The FBI’s serial number recovery trick is not 100%.
Head down to the airport Rick. Barry will be sending AF1 over to pick you up in a flash. Bring a lobbyist’s handbook and a flaming copy of the Bill of Rights with you. You’re an official victim of that evil NRA now!! Also, if he “bought it off da intanet”, it would show that “waiting periods” obviously don’t work.
And I forgive Rick Warren for "forgiving" the seller, thus backhandedly casting the seller as some kind of sinner. As if his son couldn't just as easily have killed himself with a registered gun.
That's a harsh statement. I think that maybe Rick might be embellishing the circumstances of how his son was able to obtain the firearm that he used to take his life.
Could it be that the firearm actually belonged to Rick and he's trying to cover up that fact?
At this point, only Rick knows.........
But what IS certain, and can be verified by many members on this site, is how hard it is (if not impossible) to purchase a handgun over the internet without going thru a FFL dealer..........The fact that Rick claims his son was able to purchase a handgun via this avenue certainly sends up a lot of red flags about the truthfulness of Rick's statements......
Rick Warren turns my stomach.
Fiction could not have contrived a better mechanism for Warren to exhibit his faux Christianity.
How the Hell do you buy a gun off the internet with cash?
No kidding. I would love to know where you get those no-serial number guns on the Internet?
There is so much wrong with that. The only folks that sell illegal guns like that is the BATF.
So? That just means his son (and the seller) BROKE THE FREAKIN’ LAW!
“I guess its easier to blame guns then his failed role as a father.”
His son was a grown man to make his own decisions and he decided to kill himself. It is not the fault of the father.
If you decide to kill yourself, it is not your father’s fault.
Hey Rick, trust me I feel for you, losing a child is the worst thing in the world that can happen to a person, but STOP blaming the gun..your son had issues for years, in fact, didn’t he come right up to you and say “Dad, why can’t the pain go away, why can’t I just die already” HELLO, WARNING SIGN MUCH? don’t give me this BS about purchasing a gun online..this kid wanted to die for years, he could have jumped off a building or slit his throat, you blame the gun, you get the focus off of what was the REAL problem is, your son was mentally ill