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Touré Savages LL Cool J Over ‘Accidental Racist’ Song: ‘No, I’m Not Going To Forget’ Slavery
Mediaite.com ^ | Noah Rothman | 4:50 pm, April 10th, 2013

Posted on 04/10/2013 3:54:36 PM PDT by drewh

MSNBC host Touré tore into both artists LL Cool J and Brad Paisley over the release of their lighthearted duet “Accidental Racist,” which tackled persistent racial tensions through song. Touré, an experienced music critic as well as an outspoken expert on race relations, found no redeeming value in their song.

RELATED: LL Cool J Defends ‘Accidental Racist,’ Compares Confederate Flag With Pirate Flag

Co-host S.E. Cupp said that she could “appreciate” the effort made by both artists in the effort to cool racial tensions though verse. “I like the effort… maybe,” Cupp said waveringly.

“Okay,” Touré interjected. “No, I’m not giving out any good grades for the effort.”

“I hate it,” he continued. He said Paisley could not tell his audience to ignore the “dominant meaning” behind the Confederate flag. “No, you can’t just re-appropriate the symbol as you wish,” Touré added. “If you wear that out in public, as LL says in his verse, you’re going to make me uncomfortable.”

“It’d be very easy for me to spend the rest of my time beating up on Brad Paisley’s show of white guilt,” Touré pivoted, “but I don’t want to do that straw man – I want to talk to LL who I am extraordinarily disappointed in.”

Touré slammed Cool J over the lyric in his song, “If you forget the gold chains, I’ll forget the iron chains.”

“Completely false choice,” Touré said. “If you don’t judge me because I’m wearing a chain, I’ll forget about slaver? Which continues to have an impact on this country – the racial disparity, the income inequality, the incarceration trends. No, I’m not going to forget.”

“My God, LL Cool J talking about ‘forget the slavery mentality?’” Touré exclaimed. “Mama should knock you out!”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: accidentalracist; bradpaisley; llcoolj; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; race; racist; song; westvirginia
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1 posted on 04/10/2013 3:54:36 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

Hard for you not to forget something that you never experienced, you racist, worthless twerp.


2 posted on 04/10/2013 3:55:22 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: drewh

I believe LL Cool J is a Republican.


3 posted on 04/10/2013 3:56:29 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: drewh

LOL this guy is such a worthless piece of crap..I can see why MSNBC hired him, he’s perfect


4 posted on 04/10/2013 3:56:35 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda
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5 posted on 04/10/2013 4:00:59 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: dfwgator

I don’t know what his politics are, but I have always liked Cool James.

I’m not a rap fan or anything, but I suppose he’s one of those rappers that did not just offend the Hell out of me with a bad attitude.

I’ve heard the song, and I like it, even though I’m not a country fan either.

I imagine that people such as this sticking rat Tourre are against the song because it is the type of thing that can break down barriers. Barriers that certain people need to have maintained in order to advance their agenda.

Good for Paisley and James. The ruling class is trying to enslave us all, and it is up to us to stop them.


6 posted on 04/10/2013 4:01:54 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: dfwgator

Accidental Racist”

Paisley:

To the man that waited on me at the Starbucks down on Main, I hope you understand
When I put on that t-shirt, the only thing I meant to say is I’m a Skynyrd fan
The red flag on my chest somehow is like the elephant in the corner of the south
And I just walked him right in the room
Just a proud rebel son with an ‘ol can of worms
Lookin’ like I got a lot to learn but from my point of view

I’m just a white man comin’ to you from the southland
Tryin’ to understand what it’s like not to be
I’m proud of where I’m from but not everything we’ve done
And it ain’t like you and me can re-write history
Our generation didn’t start this nation
We’re still pickin’ up the pieces, walkin’ on eggshells, fightin’ over yesterday
And caught between southern pride and southern blame

They called it Reconstruction, fixed the buildings, dried some tears
We’re still siftin’ through the rubble after a hundred-fifty years
I try to put myself in your shoes and that’s a good place to begin
But it ain’t like I can walk a mile in someone else’s skin

‘Cause I’m a white man livin’ in the southland
Just like you I’m more than what you see
I’m proud of where I’m from but not everything we’ve done
And it ain’t like you and me can re-write history
Our generation didn’t start this nation
And we’re still paying for the mistakes
That a bunch of folks made long before we came
And caught between southern pride and southern blame

Cool J: White Man, I wish you understood
What the world is really like when you’re livin’ in the hood
Just because my pants are saggin’ doesn’t mean I’m up to no good
You should try to get to know me, I really wish you would
Now my chains are gold but I’m still misunderstood
I wasn’t there when Sherman’s March turned the south into firewood
I want you to get paid but be a slave I never could
Feel like a new fangled Django, dodgin’ invisible white hoods
So when I see that white cowboy hat, I’m thinkin’ it’s not all good
I guess we’re both guilty of judgin’ the cover not the book
I’d love to buy you a beer, conversate and clear the air
But I see that red flag and I think you wish I wasn’t here

Paisley and Cool J (Cool J in parentheses):

I’m just a white man
(If you don’t judge my do-rag)
Comin’ to you from the southland
(I won’t judge your red flag)
Tryin’ to understand what it’s like not to be
I’m proud of where I’m from
(If you don’t judge my gold chains)
But not everything we’ve done
(I’ll forget the iron chains)
It ain’t like you and me can re-write history
(Can’t re-write history baby)

Oh, Dixieland
(The relationship between the Mason-Dixon needs some fixin’)
I hope you understand what this is all about
(Quite frankly I’m a black Yankee but I’ve been thinkin’ about this lately)
I’m a son of the new south
(The past is the past, you feel me)
And I just want to make things right
(Let bygones be bygones)
Where all that’s left is southern pride
(RIP Robert E. Lee but I’ve gotta thank Abraham Lincoln for freeing me, know what I mean)
It’s real, it’s real
It’s truth


7 posted on 04/10/2013 4:04:37 PM PDT by drewh
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To: Sarah Barracuda

It seems this tool realizes jesse jerkson and al not-so-sharpton won’t live forever, and positioning himself as the
premier race-baiter for the 21st century. Pathetic! And
a little funny. toooraaay!! otaaay!!


8 posted on 04/10/2013 4:04:54 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: drewh
“Mama should knock you out!”

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9 posted on 04/10/2013 4:05:06 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: drewh

These two jamocks are what is called low information people. someone should tell them that is was the stars and strips that flew over the slave ships not the CSA. I love country music but they do have some dumb rednecks.


10 posted on 04/10/2013 4:07:52 PM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: TurboZamboni

Isn’t the words “Lean Forward” (must) like the words “Bend Over”?


11 posted on 04/10/2013 4:09:28 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: Viennacon; drewh; dfwgator; Sarah Barracuda; TurboZamboni; chris37; americas.best.days...; don-o; ..

MSNBC’s Touré founded militant anti-white student paper
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006069/posts


12 posted on 04/10/2013 4:09:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Toure’ is a product of Black Liberation Theology. There has been no progress in the plight of the African-American and never will be according to their gospel. Until whitey is banished, there will be no peace.


13 posted on 04/10/2013 4:09:40 PM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: drewh

The song could have had some merit had the LL Cool J part of the song also apologized for the black murder rate that’s 8 times the white rate, for the wild mobs that take over Daytona, Miami, the Zoo on free day, the utterly lawless areas of Philly, Detroit, and Chicago,,etc.

There are two sides to the coin. If someone is willing to own the accept the racism that does exist in some corners of the white community, i also look for others to accept that the black community should accept responsibility for it’s recent descent into sickening levels of feral behavior.

There are areas of many cities where my life would be in severe and immediate danger, if i were i foolish enough to enter. I know of no such counterparts for black Americans.


14 posted on 04/10/2013 4:09:58 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: pacpam

He is what Booker T Washington was referring to when he said, “There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”


15 posted on 04/10/2013 4:11:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: drewh
could not tell his audience to ignore the “dominant meaning” behind the Confederate flag. “No, you can’t just re-appropriate the symbol as you wish,” Touré added. “If you wear that out in public, as LL says in his verse, you’re going to make me uncomfortable.”

Tough, too bad, because I'm going to wear it, fly it, and play "Dixie" all day long if I want to. Don't come to Mississippi, our state flag will offend the h*ll out of you, and it flies over government buildings.


16 posted on 04/10/2013 4:11:11 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: DesertRhino

With all due respect, LL Cool J cannot apologize for the actions of others, neither can Brad Paisley.

If people are ever going to come together, then some things are going to need to be laid to rest in the past where they belong.


17 posted on 04/10/2013 4:12:53 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: GOYAKLA

Leftists go both ways.


18 posted on 04/10/2013 4:14:05 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: pacpam

They know not what they ask for, when YT is no more.


19 posted on 04/10/2013 4:14:28 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: don-o

Okay, who added “Looter Guy” at the rear of that photo? Or did I just now catch it?


20 posted on 04/10/2013 4:16:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: drewh

Cool Touré. Glad to hear it. Here’s a quarter, now shine my shoes.


21 posted on 04/10/2013 4:16:45 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Glad to hear it. Here’s a quarter, now shine my shoes.

"Now go home and get your shinebox."

22 posted on 04/10/2013 4:18:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TurboZamboni

I agree, especially with TOURE”.


23 posted on 04/10/2013 4:18:56 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: drewh
The song's not the end of the journey - but it's a one step.. The dialogue has started...
24 posted on 04/10/2013 4:19:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Who is this Tourette person?
25 posted on 04/10/2013 4:20:57 PM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: drewh
Let's be honest. It's not too far fetched to think a black person could see a rebel flag and associate it with slavery.

HOWEVER....

To associate something with people being brutalized 150 years ago would be much less intimidating than associating something with people being brutalized today.

It is just as logical to associate gold chains and baggy drawers with 13 month old babies being shot in the face, rapings, muggings, prison inmates, gangs, thugs, flash mobs, etc.....as it is to associate the stars and bars with slavery.

I think the point of the song is to say, I will let you live your culture if you let me live mine. I won't associate the way you dress with anyone other than you so don't do it to me. I will treat you as if you haven't raped anyone if you treat me as if I have never owned slaves despite our do-rags or Confederate flags.

26 posted on 04/10/2013 4:21:10 PM PDT by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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To: pacpam

He’s a militant..he hates whitey and believes that whitey has to give all of their belongings and earnings to blacks for reparations..he’s a perfect fit for the Commie Network known as MSLSD..its pieces of crap like Toure that need to be thrown out of the US, and he can take that other piece of crap Martin Bashir with him..oh and Piers Morgan too


27 posted on 04/10/2013 4:21:21 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: drewh

I just CANNOT take seriously a male who has a fake name of one word w/ an accent. Embarassing.


28 posted on 04/10/2013 4:22:59 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: drewh
FU Touré.

The US had 5% of the world's African slaves, and we had a bloody Civil War to end it.

Funny how you give the other 95% a pass.

29 posted on 04/10/2013 4:23:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: drewh

I just CANNOT take seriously a male who has a fake name of one word w/ an accent. Embarassing.


30 posted on 04/10/2013 4:23:42 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: chris37

I understand that. But this is that “discussion” we always hear about us needing to have. By that they mean, white America must hear this endless wailing and list of grievances.
If there is to be a “discussion” on race, it needs to also address the fact that violent crime is utterly epidemic on the black side, and that whites are not racist for generally avoiding contact, or large gatherings of young blacks. They are being sane and avoiding being attacked.

This is a modern phenomenon, and this violent young uneducated urban culture, has amost nothing in common with black America up until the early 60s.

If the problem cannot be discussed, it cannot be fixed.


31 posted on 04/10/2013 4:24:04 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: drewh

Where did the Der Sturhmer drawing go? I wanted to copy it for my family (we are Jewish) and for others who have never seen it before.


32 posted on 04/10/2013 4:27:25 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: drewh

Okay I am Black enough to say it, “What do you expect from a two bit goat smelling spook, whose main achievement is life is to be a token for elite rich Progressives on a bottom feeder network?”

I think that covers everything about this living cartoon that in Torue.


33 posted on 04/10/2013 4:27:44 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: GOPJ
The song's not the end of the journey - but it's a one step.. The dialogue has started...

How many years since "Ebony and Ivory" came out?

34 posted on 04/10/2013 4:29:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

The Left is freaking out over the idea that someone in pop culture is trying to end race baiting.


35 posted on 04/10/2013 4:31:44 PM PDT by garbanzo (Welcome to the jungle, it gets worse here every day)
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To: DesertRhino

Well, I am one of those people who generally avoid contact out of fear of crime.

Maybe that makes me racist, I don’t know, but what I do know is that it makes me still alive. I spent 14 years of my life living in New Orleans, and I am no fool when it comes to black crime. If I see people who look suspect to me, I avoid them like the plague, and I do not care if it hurts their feelings. I say if you want to be respected then be respectable.

With regard to listening to their list of grievances, my attitude on that is that I have never done anything to them, ever. I am willing to listen, to an extent, but beyond that, nothing, the past is the past and those people are gone.

I believe that we must find a way to come together, but I do not know if it can be done. I do know that there are other forces who must have us divided, and I hate those forces. I think this song is a valiant effort in the right direction though. It does not anger me.


36 posted on 04/10/2013 4:39:51 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Funny how you give the other 95% a pass.”

Indeed. He ought to educate himself on racism in Brazil, which has the largest black population of any country outside Africa and a truly shocking level of racial discrimination. I wonder if that guy simply hates America more than “racism”....


37 posted on 04/10/2013 4:41:18 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: nitzy

The problem, as I see it, is that they aren’t objecting to the Confederate national flag (the Stars and Bars) but the Confederate Battle Flag, beneath which many men (including some blacks) fought and died gallantly, heroically, and tragically. If we can’t honor courage and conviction, even when it’s misplaced, there’s not much hope we will ever agree on anything.


38 posted on 04/10/2013 4:41:54 PM PDT by Hootowl
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To: dfwgator
We all know that people are the same where ever you go There is good and bad in everyone We learn to live we learn to give each other what we need to survive together alive

Ebony and Ivory live together in perfect harmony Side by side on my piano keyboard oh lord why don't we?

Ebony, Ivory living in perfect harmony Ebony, Ivory oh..

We all know that people are the same where ever you go There is good and bad in everyone We learn to live we learn to give each other what we need to survive Together alive

Yeah, but that song was pure liberal fantasy... kind of a 'We Are the World' feel-good chldish idiocy..

39 posted on 04/10/2013 4:42:32 PM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: drewh

Toure’ is a young black man who has lived a privileged life, so he now has to prove he is “blacker” than anybody. It seems to me a lot of middle class blacks do this.


40 posted on 04/10/2013 4:43:35 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: popdonnelly
Toure’ is a young black man who has lived a privileged life, so he now has to prove he is “blacker” than anybody. It seems to me a lot of middle class blacks do this.

Especially the lighter-skinned blacks.

41 posted on 04/10/2013 4:47:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: popdonnelly

“Toure’ is a young black man who has lived a privileged life, so he now has to prove he is “blacker” than anybody.”

It’s hard to admit that your ancestors were better men than yourself.


42 posted on 04/10/2013 4:47:27 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: drewh

You’re is a punk. Go ahead and try to knock LL Cool J out. Dude is made of steel. No. I take that back. Dude made himself into steel.


43 posted on 04/10/2013 4:49:58 PM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: MattinNJ; drewh

Ugghh. Damn auto correct. You’re = Toure


44 posted on 04/10/2013 4:51:39 PM PDT by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
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To: drewh

It was the Democrats that controlled slavery in the South and attacked the North to keep slavery. Then when they lost they came up with this segregation then this “separate but equal” nonsense. And of course let’s not forget the formation of the KKK which initially was to threaten and scare Republicans then drifted off into persecuting Catholics and Jews. Next came the lynchings. The Democrats have been evil since day one.


45 posted on 04/10/2013 4:52:56 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: drewh

You’re is mentally disabled. He should be pitied.


46 posted on 04/10/2013 6:00:06 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: All

LL Cool J is really a pretty decent guy(despite being a rapper). I remember where he was supporting George Pataki for governor - a Republican. And he led the Grammys with a prayer when Whitney Houston died.

At least he is open minded as far as politics - unlike communist supporter Jay-Z>


47 posted on 04/10/2013 6:23:07 PM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (What is America coming too?)
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To: drewh

Is SE Cupp the fake conservative?


48 posted on 04/10/2013 7:38:59 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: drewh

The first 5 letters of “tourette’s”


49 posted on 04/10/2013 8:02:45 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: JPG

Who are these Accidental Artists?


50 posted on 04/10/2013 8:06:45 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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