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Sources Report Senate Republicans Caving on Guns
Red State ^ | 4/9/2013 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 04/10/2013 5:57:05 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: IbJensen

Well, Republicans caving in on something is not a surprise. They lack spines.


51 posted on 04/10/2013 7:32:11 AM PDT by moviefan8
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To: coloradan
With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?

Indeed. I'm now ashamed to call myself one.

52 posted on 04/10/2013 7:33:03 AM PDT by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment!)
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To: IbJensen
Several Republican Senators intend to vote against the filibuster, but then vote against the overall bill. This is too clever by half. The GOP does not control the Senate as the GOP is want to say every time they don’t want to fight.

GUTLESS SPINELESS WHIMPS!!! Is this what we sent you there to accomplish?


53 posted on 04/10/2013 7:37:45 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: IbJensen

Newsmax
Toomey, Manchin Reach Bipartisan Deal on Gun Background Checks
Wednesday, April 10, 2013 08:36 AM

By: Heidi Przybyla and James Rowley

Two U.S. senators have reached a bipartisan compromise to expand background checks of U.S. firearms purchasers that they plan to announce later today, according to a Senate aide.

Senator Joe Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat, said yesterday that he was close to a deal with Pat Toomey, a Pennsylvania Republican whose support could prove critical to saving the centerpiece of President Barack Obama’s gun agenda from defeat.

Manchin and Toomey plan to hold a news briefing at 11 a.m. today in Washington.


54 posted on 04/10/2013 7:39:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: G Larry

And that’s why there will be no debates. A plan drafted in secret will be pushed through. Inhofe will say, “This plan is the greatest affirmation of the second amendment in the history of the world because if we didn’t compromise on this plan, there would have been a plan that banned the second amendment.”


55 posted on 04/10/2013 7:40:57 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Seattle Conservative
I don’t recall - when is McLame up for reelection again - is it 2014 or 2016?

Unfortunately, we're stuck with him until 2016.

56 posted on 04/10/2013 7:42:00 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: ilgipper

The Republicans aren’t weak, or stupid, or cowards, or spineless. They know what they are doing. They want gun control as much as their Democrat pals but they can’t be open about it. They have to maintain the illusion that they are an opposition party for their rube constituents in flyover country.


57 posted on 04/10/2013 7:45:43 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: IbJensen
Republicans Caving

Duh! It's what R's Do once elected.

58 posted on 04/10/2013 7:48:54 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Get in touch with your galtitude!)
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To: Seattle Conservative

2016. Arizona will send him to the Senate until he dies. That is just the way Arizona is. Short of an incapacitating illness, he IS going to win reelection.


59 posted on 04/10/2013 7:49:40 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: ilgipper

The GOP needs Dr. Kavorkian.


60 posted on 04/10/2013 7:54:59 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: The Cajun

the DC based RNC effets think this will be their linchpin issue in November of 2014.

They don’t get that capitulation means no money and no votes.

If voting was mandatory, perhaps. But staying home is a middle finger to the RNC.

Where is Bonehead in the House on this?


61 posted on 04/10/2013 7:58:41 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: IbJensen

One of the few things Republicans stand for is the 2A. If they give this up so easily, what good are they?

Anyone from either party who betrays the 2A is a TRAITOR.


62 posted on 04/10/2013 8:00:23 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: IbJensen

“Sources Report Senate Republicans Caving on Guns”

So.....what else is new?


63 posted on 04/10/2013 8:04:45 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: IbJensen

McStain was a crappy pilot and he’s a crappy politician.


64 posted on 04/10/2013 8:05:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Cheerio

Tyrant Kim Un Hussein must be very pleased that his efforts to “FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA” are progressing so easily.


65 posted on 04/10/2013 8:08:03 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Starboard

“...Just like a team that is perpetually in last place, the GOPe has a losers mentality...”

Just like the New Orleans Saints. For decades, they were losers. They couldn’t win anything. Then one year, they started getting the people they needed and that francise turned from a loser to a winner. That’s what the Pubs need to be like. Clear the decks and get those in that want to win. Otherwise, the Pubs are doomed to mediocracy forever.


66 posted on 04/10/2013 8:08:41 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (The LEFT's intolerance of the RIGHT is intolerable.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

“Because it shakes up the “establishment””

The GOP does not want to upset the status quo anymore than the Dems do. They all want to protect their power and cushy jobs.


67 posted on 04/10/2013 8:10:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: alloysteel
I guess we are just going to have to conceal the weaponry we already have, and find non-conventional ways to resist when the physical search for them begins in earnest.

You've completely missed the whole point of the 2nd Amendment. When the jack booted thugs come for your weapons, you hand them over one bullet at a time.

68 posted on 04/10/2013 8:13:26 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: carriage_hill

What “online” seller allows guns to be sold without an FFL? I’ve never seen that at Gun Broker or Guns America ever. Who are they talking about?


69 posted on 04/10/2013 8:24:59 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: IbJensen
The GOP does not control the Senate as the GOP is want wont to say every time they don’t want to fight.

Grammar Police alert.

70 posted on 04/10/2013 8:31:55 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: dfwgator
The Republicans will not fight for the Average Joe and Jane in America. Only for themselves
once they catch Potomac fever, and fall prey to the lush parties they get invited to for
walking in lock step to the McCain's of the party. Nobody is talking about what they are
doing to the Tea party Conservatives to force them into line. And it's working for the most part.
I say it's working because nobody is talking about it. Only once have I heard a peep, so I can only go by that.


Conservatives will not vote if there isn't any values in the candidate.
We will lose this election and our Constitutional rights if the Repubs keep going down this route.

71 posted on 04/10/2013 8:32:11 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: alloysteel

See my signature line.


72 posted on 04/10/2013 8:32:12 AM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

It’s the Ruling Class versus the rest of us. Democrat and Republican are merely factions within it. None of them - none - are fit to live in a free society.


73 posted on 04/10/2013 8:34:23 AM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Got me stumped, too. I’ve seen some forums where long guns are shipped direct to other buyers, but not from FFLs. All handguns must go thru FFLs.

This is a *false flag op*, toward full and complete firearm registration and confiscation.


74 posted on 04/10/2013 8:35:19 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: longtermmemmory

http://news.yahoo.com/case-against-gun-background-checks-132626281—abc-news-politics.html


75 posted on 04/10/2013 8:40:33 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("The only glory in war is surviving")
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To: IbJensen
yep, caving on guns, just what i thought.
76 posted on 04/10/2013 8:42:04 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: IbJensen

Some people are a bit slow...

They have yet to figured out the Republican and Democrat ruling class, are all riding in the same limousine.

An all controlling, all regulating, all taxing dictatorship, incrementally...One step at a time.

It’s the greatest show on earth.


77 posted on 04/10/2013 8:46:32 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“McStain was a crappy pilot”

That’s a bit harsh. Ace McCain downed 5+ American planes and cashiered at least 134 US sailors for the enemy.


78 posted on 04/10/2013 8:48:50 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: IbJensen

Stuff them, grow some balls or get the heck out of the way( lead, follow or get the **** out of here!)


79 posted on 04/10/2013 9:17:30 AM PDT by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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To: G Larry

it is all about the permanent records.


80 posted on 04/10/2013 9:58:44 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

The same-sex senators Goober and Johnny McPain strike again.


81 posted on 04/10/2013 10:11:52 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: coloradan
With Republicans like these, who needs Democrats?

Perhaps that's their strategy

82 posted on 04/10/2013 10:16:54 AM PDT by tsowellfan (www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Do we know the name of the student he bumped out to take a seat at the military academy?

Does he have a real marriage or a clintonian marriage?


83 posted on 04/10/2013 10:17:32 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Starboard

They don’t want to fight so they will be replaced.

The Washington establishment does not realize that the Revolution has begun, just the shooting has not started on the people side yet. The Constitution is under attack (on all levels not just the 2nd Amendment) by those we intrusted it to, and they swore to protect. (Just words to them? The Peoples Document is not just words to dance politically around, Amend at will or destroy. IT IS THE PEOPLES DOCUMENT. It is the People’s protection from the Government, The Protection of the Republic...

It is time to clean house in Washington from the top down, if not, I fear it will get messy... The Constitutional Patriots have seen enough. Or Founders gave us a free Republic. The question still remains “WILL YOU KEEP IT”.


84 posted on 04/10/2013 10:33:39 AM PDT by thegrump
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To: IbJensen
[Article] Several of the Republicans are using the Manchin-Toomey compromise plan as an excuse to cave on the gun filibuster.

Author Erickson still doesn't get it.

These guys are caving because they're getting whispery phone calls from RiNO contributors and corporate board chairmen and principal stockholders (but I repeat myself), murmuring that it might be a good idea if the President were enabled to start seizing firearms ..... as long as the GOP is not standing around to receive any of the blame from the base.

Corporate types hate 2A and do NOT want the hoi polloi owning firearms. Their view of our place in the world is medieval and very, very humble.

85 posted on 04/10/2013 10:37:02 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: longtermmemmory
the left wingers want [permanent] records.

So do the RiNOs and their Business Elite constituency .... and confiscation too.

Pew Trusts' sociology surveys finger the business RiNO's as the most likely group to roll over on 2A supporters and give the store away to the Left totalitarians.

It's like the song says,

Your enemy can't do you no harm,
'Coz you know where he's coming from ....

-- "Smiling Faces"

Old wisdom, played out afresh by false friends.

86 posted on 04/10/2013 10:41:17 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: IbJensen

They’ve probably ALL been bugged.

As if it’s needed. Ha! Just wave a night out on the town with Dear Leader and they would cave. Disgusting.


87 posted on 04/10/2013 10:42:11 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Da Coyote

Republicans in both parts of Congress will be replaced in 2014 and beyond if they vote to cave on the 2nd Amendment.


88 posted on 04/10/2013 10:46:00 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: IbJensen

it’s all kabuki theater. the rinos and gop elites always were going to cave.


89 posted on 04/10/2013 10:59:44 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Karliner

We’ll follow England down the rabbit hole.

Open the borders. Let all the riff-raff in that foreign societies don’t want.

Disarm America and let these animals run wild in Obama’s zoo.


90 posted on 04/10/2013 11:21:22 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

The vote should go forward. Let’s get all of them on the record.


91 posted on 04/10/2013 11:22:45 AM PDT by CityCenter (No matter how good your PR is, you can't outsmart the truth.)
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To: KeyLargo

After they hold their meeting they’ll retire to the Senate cloakroom in order to make out.


92 posted on 04/10/2013 11:23:50 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Republicans in both parts of Congress will be replaced in 2014 and beyond if they vote to cave on the 2nd Amendment.

True, at least we can hope.

The Congress & Senate were never meant to be career positions nor was any other Government office. This idea of our founders has been perverted into a power and money making business. Political Office Term Limits are essential to eliminating the Career seeking Federal Politicians and the outrageous life long perks after leaving office. It was not meant to be a job to retire from. It was meant to be a short term public service, nothing more! 2 Terms would be a good move to keep the riffraff in line. True it will also limit good people from serving longer, but even the good become polluted in Washington’s power politics.

2 Terms and out, go back to being an attorney or whatever else you formerly did or move to State or local Politics but out of Washington out of the Federal Perks and temptations. This is what our Forefathers intended the Government to be, a Government buy the People for the People! Not a bad idea in IMHO.


93 posted on 04/10/2013 11:33:07 AM PDT by thegrump
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To: longtermmemmory

“Does he have a real marriage or a clintonian marriage?”

I read Cindy has a boyfriend stashed somewhere. Can you blame her?


94 posted on 04/10/2013 1:00:46 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Christie at the beach

There is not enough of the good guys, we have to find a better way to get rid of the RHINO’s.


95 posted on 04/10/2013 1:49:25 PM PDT by gunner03
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To: IbJensen

The Republican Party establishment, AKA Vichy Poop GOPe, don’t care if they alienate 90% of their own voters I guess.


96 posted on 04/10/2013 3:07:39 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: thegrump

It is the People’s protection from the Government
*******
History is replete with examples of excessive government power and subjugation of people. Thomas Jefferson was absolutely correct when he said: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.”


97 posted on 04/10/2013 3:24:32 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: IbJensen
the Republican Conference is scared to death of the tactics of Senators Lee, Cruz and Paul – that it is supposedly putting them in a tough spot.

Several of the Republicans are using the Manchin-Toomey compromise plan as an excuse to cave on the gun filibuster. They claim that Senators Lee, Cruz, and Paul are running ahead of the conference in their insistence on a filibuster.

The last I heard was that 15 Repub senators had signed onto the filibuster, including Mitch McConnell. Irregardless of what the "Republican conference" is whining about, I hope & pray that Lee, Cruz & Paul and the other 12 Repub senators have the balls & courage to fight this and to proceed with the filibuster as planned. If they don't have the courage & balls to proceed.... then the Republic is lost and they were nothing more than cowardly bastards to begin with.

98 posted on 04/10/2013 3:29:29 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: IbJensen

I swear there is something emanating from the walls of both the House and Senate chambers that emasculates Republicans and turns them into the worst kind of quivering RINO wimps!!


99 posted on 04/10/2013 3:36:40 PM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: IbJensen

“Several Republican Senators intend to vote against the filibuster, but then vote against the overall bill.”

The filibuster is the only place the Republicans have enough numbers to stop the bill. A vote for cloture is a vote for gun control.


100 posted on 04/10/2013 5:44:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The founding fathers didn't form this country by compromising.)
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