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IRS High-Tech Tools Track Your Digital Foorprint
US News ^ | 4-5-2013 | Richard Satran

Posted on 04/06/2013 4:19:30 AM PDT by benasawin

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Some may find this interesting. My first post so administrator can feel free to delete if there is a problem with how I have went about this.

Big brother is certainly expanding the scope of their tracking of information on all of us.

1 posted on 04/06/2013 4:19:30 AM PDT by benasawin
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To: benasawin

Your first post is done just fine, and newsworthy enough that it deserves a place in the Front Page News sidebar.


2 posted on 04/06/2013 4:21:50 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Thank you, quite a relief. Yes, I thought it was worth getting out there.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 4:25:34 AM PDT by benasawin
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To: benasawin

Yet another reason to use Bitcoin or other electronic anonymous currency like Liberty Reserve or Pecunix.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 4:56:52 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: benasawin

Well done post!

benasawin 9/24/07

Welcome to... oh wait... heh.


5 posted on 04/06/2013 4:58:47 AM PDT by carriage_hill (The most insidious power the news media has, is the power to ignore.)
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To: benasawin
“Big brother is certainly expanding the scope of their tracking of information on all of us.”

I seriously doubt if they'll bother our guests from south of the border getting refunds for nonexistent children.

6 posted on 04/06/2013 5:00:01 AM PDT by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: theBuckwheat
Thanks for the post......

The IRS should be using these tools on themselves as MANY of the IRS folks do NOT pay their own taxes. They are all hypocrites!

7 posted on 04/06/2013 5:01:13 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: benasawin

We are officially a socialist nation, but it has taken a lot of imbecilic politicians, jurists and other assorted sycophants to get the job done.

This is not black magic, rather it has happened right before our eyes. We can only hope and pray that a savior will come up with a stop to this insanity that takes our system of elections and uses it to hang us!

The gargantuan IRS can now use profiling in order to enforce an evil confiscation system, but it is not permissible to halt terrorism using profiling.

Take this country back from evil regimes that would relegate America to the scrap pile of history. In order to accomplish this it would take a gigantic incinerator to reduce to ashes ever piece of worthless and/or harmful legislation passed into law since 1913.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 5:02:49 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Sounds a lot like the old Stasi doesn’t it.


9 posted on 04/06/2013 5:09:56 AM PDT by Texas resident
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To: benasawin

“Big brother is certainly expanding the scope of their tracking of information on all of us.”

Went in to buy a fishing license yesterday at Walmart. They refused to sell me one because I wouldn’t give them my unlisted home phone number. I showed my drivers license, as requested.

So, according to NYS I must have a phone in order to buy a fishing license. “Screw that”, I said and walked out.


10 posted on 04/06/2013 5:28:55 AM PDT by panaxanax (They can have my guns when I run out of ammo.)
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To: Texas resident

Yep. It sounds like they’ve developed AI software that is tied to a neural type network with access to multiple data source providers such as credit reporting agencies, eBay, Paypal, FB (businesses operating from there), FINCEN, possibly FDIC, and a financial reporting system tied into banks via the implementation of Obamacare (which I think was one of the primary objectives; access to all citizens financial records). I bet it’s set up to match reported income opposed to real time financial data and flag taxpayers whose figures are off by a certain percentage or more. I also bet it has a function to ignore or override certain taxpayers like say Obamie and all Congressmen. I also bet there will be corruption when it’s found out certain people are paying to keep them off the suit lists. I work with a lot of tools like these and am an investigator so I have my suspicions about where they are getting their info and how it’s going to be used against us.


11 posted on 04/06/2013 5:30:03 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: IbJensen

Well stated. Solution? I’m afraid I don’t have one.


12 posted on 04/06/2013 5:31:12 AM PDT by benasawin
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To: benasawin

The IRS uses acts in a clearly un-American way - we must prove we are innocent to them, or in other words, we are guilty unless proven otherwise.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 5:31:46 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: panaxanax
So, according to NYS I must have a phone in order to buy a fishing license. “Screw that”, I said and walked out.

I bet all the Mexicans I see fishing have licenses...

14 posted on 04/06/2013 5:34:12 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: panaxanax

Interesting circumstance. Much like my “walking away” from flying anywhere when the government started their TSA.
Leaves the question, how much can we continue to “walk away” from? How far must we go?


15 posted on 04/06/2013 5:35:47 AM PDT by benasawin
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To: panaxanax

Do like the illegals do and just say, (555) 987-6543 or make up one...lol

If you think that’s bad you ought to see auto loan credit apps from the ghetto. A complete work of fiction on every level. They have their auntie’s confirming their “employment”, all their addresses are family members, their SSNs are bought, etc..., etc...


16 posted on 04/06/2013 5:36:06 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: theBuckwheat

Thanks for the ideas. I’ll have to do some research on that.


17 posted on 04/06/2013 5:37:26 AM PDT by benasawin
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To: benasawin

If Bush were the president, the so-called civil liberties groups would be all over it. Fascism. Big Brother.

There’s a communist in the White House, and they’re all silent.

The only way to get on the good side of these fascists is to be someone who votes for a living instead of someone who works for a living.


18 posted on 04/06/2013 5:43:51 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Yes, I meant that.)
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To: benasawin

No surprise here. We already live in a fascist dictatorship. No news there.


19 posted on 04/06/2013 6:03:33 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Yes, I meant that.)
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To: benasawin

Keep your Internet footprint as small as possible.

I don’t twitter or FB, since I don’t have the need to tell everyone I am in the Starbucks restroom doing a #2.

I also have never trusted eBay nor Craigslist.

I do some online purchasing but it is impossible not to. It might be possible to link my purchases to my income level, but they are pretty normal (not that I approve of Big Brother looking over my shoulder).

The Moral: STAY AS ANONYMOUS AS POSSIBLE ON THE INTERWEBZ!


20 posted on 04/06/2013 6:07:20 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: benasawin

The elite-socialist political class has taken our Constitution and Bill Of Rights and used these two documents, felt precious by our forefathers, and used them for toilet paper.

They’ve worked overtime to prove that our Republic doesn’t function for the common good anymore.

Perhaps America needs to open a can of whoopass and be led for a decade or so by a benevolent despot like, say, Francisco Franco, Alberto Fujimori or Augusto Pinochet.

Considering that the homosexuals and the socialists now rule our nation it may be time to take drastic measures. Under the current system the nation can sink only deeper into an irreversible morass.


21 posted on 04/06/2013 6:07:35 AM PDT by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: panaxanax
Interesting story.

The last time I had to present my phone number in a situation like that, I simply gave them a number that I had when I lived in a different area of the state more than a decade earlier.

22 posted on 04/06/2013 6:15:40 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: benasawin

23 posted on 04/06/2013 6:23:26 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Alberta's Child

Problem with that is that a fishing lisence is an official state document and doing what you suggest is perjury.


24 posted on 04/06/2013 6:28:19 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: All
Lots of computing power, for what? The agency's computers can now load all U.S. tax returns in just 10 hours, compared with the four months it took just eight years ago, Jeff Butler, IRS director of research databases told the IBM TechAmerica conference last November. That leaves a lot of time for other uses. The IRS says it expects 80 percent of its tax returns to be filed electronically this year. That makes a total of 250 million returns filed, with $2 trillion in revenue.

All the more reason to file your return on paper instead of electronically. Force them to expend their labor forces processing paper. I always make a minor mistake in calculation - in their favor of course. This forces them to manually reprocess the return.

If all of us were to do this at tax time the gestapo wouldn't have time for these shenanigans.

25 posted on 04/06/2013 6:29:39 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Roccus

“I’m sorry — I forgot.”


26 posted on 04/06/2013 6:35:55 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Alberta's Child

“My old-timer’s is flaring up again” ;-)


27 posted on 04/06/2013 6:52:30 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jsanders2001

I’m partial to 867-5309 myself.


28 posted on 04/06/2013 6:55:02 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: dljordan

I seriously doubt if they’ll bother our guests from south of the border getting refunds for nonexistent children.

***
Sadly true. Of course, they have to keep tabs on those of us who are the cash cow supporting such guests.


29 posted on 04/06/2013 7:01:52 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: freedumb2003

I have been very happy with my purchases from eBay.

This is scary stuff, and I stopped using Facebook for the reasons you refer to. (But I sure do miss seeing those photos of the grandchildren. The kids send some of them to me, but I miss the real time updates about them.)


30 posted on 04/06/2013 7:08:24 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: panaxanax

“They refused to sell me one because I wouldn’t give them my unlisted home phone number.”

Home-depot wanted my birth date to make a purchase the other day. I told them I didn’t know because I was adopted from a Czechoslovakian orphanage and there were no records. In the end, I gave them a phony date...


31 posted on 04/06/2013 7:18:28 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: IbJensen

To think they are “celebrating” the 100th anniversary of the income tax.

**SPIT**

A pox on all of them!


32 posted on 04/06/2013 7:34:19 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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“Home-depot wanted my birth date to make a purchase the other day. I told them I didn’t know because I was adopted from a Czechoslovakian orphanage and there were no records. In the end, I gave them a phony date...”

Geez were you buying wine for your flowers?!

Thanks to warnings over a decade ago from a younger relative and his Stanford grad wife, we never do anything like that.

No Home Depot, Lowes, Target, Kohls and whatever ever credit card.

My nephew and his very smart wife told us that we have one maternal mother’s name, one birthdate and place, one first dog and other firsts. The more one uses these personal data, the easier we make it for the crooks. When I have to sign up, my mother’s maiden was Claus, and I was born 12/25/1900, my dog was Rudolf and similar stuff.

One friend only uses hot mail with the following addressee, John Doe (with several numbers after him).

Facebook, LinkedIn and similar sites are for the perpetually lonely and stupid.


33 posted on 04/06/2013 7:35:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What do Sequester, Mayan Apocolypse, Y2K & Gorebull Warming have in common? They were/are 100% BS!)
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To: panaxanax

Just use bloomberg’s number. or cuomos. or obozos


34 posted on 04/06/2013 7:38:31 AM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: benasawin; All
Maybe the IRS will see the Supreme Court's official clarification of Congress's limited power to lay taxes when it spies on Free Republic members.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." --Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

35 posted on 04/06/2013 7:45:12 AM PDT by Amendment10
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“No Home Depot, Lowes, Target, Kohls and whatever ever credit card.”

I learned something recently. One of our IT employees was looking for a backpack at Target he wanted but wanted to pay cash instead. The Target customer service said to buy the target prepaid card and you can use it to buy from the site. He just changed his IP address from his laptop and he actually did buy it using the card. The bad part is the address where it’s going to..


36 posted on 04/06/2013 7:46:33 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: theBuckwheat

Bitcoin is a vaporware ponzi scheme that can disappear at the touch of a keystroke.

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/04/05/why-bitcoin-is-doomed-to-fail.aspx


37 posted on 04/06/2013 7:52:16 AM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: jsanders2001
You're correct. The monster needs more food and it will eat it's children to get it.


38 posted on 04/06/2013 8:07:47 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: babygene

That might be a state law. Here in Illinois the nannies won’t let you buy lye without a DL. In Chicago, you cannot buy spray paint.


39 posted on 04/06/2013 8:14:49 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: benasawin

This sure sounds like a direct attack on the 4th Amendment about privacy.


40 posted on 04/06/2013 8:26:57 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Grampa Dave

I have standard fake data I use consistently — I can remember what I lied about and it is of no use to bg check me.


41 posted on 04/06/2013 8:50:39 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: ridesthemiles

>>This sure sounds like a direct attack on the 4th Amendment about privacy.<<

The IRS has been exempt from the USC, particularly Amendments IV and V, since its inception. I have never understood the legal theory other than “you have our money and we will use any and all means to get it.”

Any legal eagles out there that can supply a summary of cases, etc?


42 posted on 04/06/2013 8:53:47 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: freedumb2003

“I have standard fake data I use consistently — I can remember what I lied about and it is of no use to bg check me.”

A good and smart action on your part.


43 posted on 04/06/2013 9:06:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What do Sequester, Mayan Apocolypse, Y2K & Gorebull Warming have in common? They were/are 100% BS!)
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To: Roccus
Problem with that is that a fishing lisence is an official state document and doing what you suggest is perjury.

Having respect for "government" has long passed. Sadists in government lie to us daily and actively seek to destroy our way of life.

perjury? Do you think many government official at any level respects the citizens? H*ll no.

Lying to government parasites will likely grow exponentially -- that's a good thing. We need to thwart the system with false data.

The rule of law HAS been indeed been replaced with the rule of Man. Perjury over a phone number? --- how 50's is that...

44 posted on 04/06/2013 9:26:13 AM PDT by sand88
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To: jsanders2001

You hit the nail on the head. This is because of ObamaCare. It provided an excuse to do all this tracking.


45 posted on 04/06/2013 9:30:20 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: freedumb2003
I don’t twitter or FB

That's good. Let the pervasive progressives indoctrinate all the 20-something and next generation teen voters who live their lives there.

46 posted on 04/06/2013 9:36:03 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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>>That’s good. Let the pervasive progressives indoctrinate all the 20-something and next generation teen voters who live their lives there.<<

That has already happened. This generation is lost.

But if you want to open yourself to ID theft and government intrusion who am I to suggest otherwise?


47 posted on 04/06/2013 9:44:29 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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To: freedumb2003

My accounts are basically fictious persons.
I just like to make liberals’ heads explode.
I realize the Baraqqis can get my IP data, but they already have that from FR.


48 posted on 04/06/2013 9:54:23 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Grampa Dave
Facebook, LinkedIn and similar sites are for the perpetually lonely and stupid.

Agree with you about Facebook. Never realized so many people enjoyed giving themselves proctological exams for the voyeuristically inclined.

Disagree with you about LinkedIn, however. When used strategically and to your advantage, LinkedIn is great for business development purposes. That said, I never seek, nor post recommendations.

FReegards!


49 posted on 04/06/2013 10:03:52 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: sand88
"Do you think..."

What I think does not matter. If advertising on the internet your willingness to commit perjury appeals to you, go to it. My post was merely stating a fact. Whether you or the FReeper I posted to want to be a test case...do as you see fit.

50 posted on 04/06/2013 10:14:33 AM PDT by Roccus
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