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US Secretly Deploys B-1 Strategic Bombers, E-6 "Doomsday" Planes Near North Korea
Zerohedge.com ^ | April 5, 2013 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 04/05/2013 5:28:06 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian

First the US fanfared the placement of two F-22 Raptors in the Osan airbase of South Korea. Then it demonstratively launched a B-2 stealth bomber on a training mission over a South Korean gunnery range. Then it deployed an anti-ballistic missile defense system to Guam and positioned two guided-missile destroyers in the waters near Korea. And now, courtesy of the Aviationist, we learn that the Pentagon has escalated once more in an ongoing cat and mouse game with North Korea, of who blinks first, and dispatched several B-1 ("Bone") Lancer strategic long-range bombers to Andersen Air Force Base in Guam. What is different this time, however, is that unlike the previous very public and widely trumpeted reciprocal escalation steps, this particular deployment has been kept secret from the public (at least the broader public), "a fact that could be the sign that the U.S. is not only making symbolic moves (as the above mentioned ones), but it is preparing for the worst scenario: an attack on North Korea."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: b1; guam; northkorea; notsosecret; opsec; secret; waronterror
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To: Monterrosa-24
Ridgeway was a mess. He said that Korea would be the last war fought entirely without nuclear weapons...   ...Shouldn’t you be over at DU?

Let's not change the subject because neither my being a bad guy nor Ridgeway being wrong about later wars has anything to do with Macarthur disobeying orders during the conflict while he publicly and falsely alleged that strategic decisions made by his commanders was impossible.  Say what you want about Ridgeway, he did what Macarthur said couldn't be done.

Like it or not, over the millennia most wars have ended in negotiations with or without decisive military action.  Same with the US as the Revolutionary & 1812 wars dragged through talks long after combat lost its import.  Civil War was different because open rebellion can never be tolerated, but since then (with the possible exception of WWII) the US has dealt with realities such as total war costs plus the need for a policy of containment.

141 posted on 04/06/2013 6:22:37 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: jpsb
"Macarthur had said it was impossible for China to invade Korea."

And he was right, but little to he realize that Truman would send the 7th fleet to secure the Chicom flank...

It's really hard for me to believe Macarthur could possibly understand Chinese military abilities if he couldn't even follow US military strategy.

142 posted on 04/06/2013 6:31:18 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: the OlLine Rebel
A certain very close relative who worked very long on the B1 is always very irritated they do not get publicity or accolades.

One of the unspoken Rules of Engineering: After the customer gets delivery, the most sincere compliment is dead silence.

(After that's said, on behalf of the rest of North American Rockwell's B-1 Bunch, pass a warm Thanks to your "close relative".)

143 posted on 04/06/2013 6:45:16 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (For why should my Freedom be judged by anothers conscience? 1 Cor 10:29)
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To: GeronL

North Korea is for some undetermined short term out of the missile business. There can be no more practice shots, even announced practice shots. They will be shot down.

Since no one really knows where the practice shots are really aimed, they will be justifiably shot down.

So, the norko missile jobs have been lost and unemployment grows. The law of unintended consequences prevails.

Un less, it was intended. The process ends the expense and saves face


144 posted on 04/06/2013 6:57:10 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: expat_panama
Well the US military strategy did not make any sense, at least not if the goal was to win the war. Having the 7th patrol the Taiwan straights freed up almost the entire Chicom army for duty in Korea. That move by Truman almost got us defeated in Korea.

Those of you knocking MacArthur for trying to win must be big fans of fighting not to win, yall must love wars like Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan because it all starting with Truman in Korea, MacArthur was fired because he was trying to win the war. He got tired of Trumans "rules of engagement" like telling him he could only bomb the southern half of the bridges over the Yalu river, and went public.

145 posted on 04/06/2013 7:06:22 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
One of the unspoken Rules of Engineering: After the customer gets delivery, the most sincere compliment is dead silence.

Painfully true.  It took a long time for me to catch on in my engineering career after having worked my way through college playing guitar in band.  Cheers to silence wasn't easy, although the pay sure got better...

146 posted on 04/06/2013 7:15:37 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: US_MilitaryRules

No...

Saddam Hussien, Osama bin Laden and Hugo Chavez are still dead...


147 posted on 04/06/2013 7:28:24 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Repeal The 17th; All

“Would you like some more beans there Mr. Taggart?”


148 posted on 04/06/2013 7:30:41 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: AppyPappy
They are good cruise missile launchers.

They can also carry a large number of JDAM and JSOW bombs, each of which can be set up to hit a different target. And I would imagine that we have a bunch of drones busily mapping where the NK bunkers and guns are.

149 posted on 04/06/2013 7:33:01 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: xkaydet65
The NORKS have 10K arty tubes of 152mm and up within 20 miles of the DMZ. One salvo and they’ll kill 50K people in Seoul. None of this requires much movement. The arty sites are stocked and sighted in. By the time USAF and ROK planes are in the air and cany counter battery fire is effective Seoul could be a smoldering ruin.

Which provides an incentive to hit them first.

150 posted on 04/06/2013 7:34:27 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: jpsb
...US military strategy did not make any sense, at least not if the goal was to win...

We're talking foreign conflict here, this isn't football.  It was Mac's job to make sense of strategy worked out by others and then deploy recourses as needed.  When it became clear to all that he wasn't up to it he was replaced by someone that could and was willing to do what he was told. 

The worst part was that Mac deliberately disobeyed orders; he was lucky he wasn't shot.

151 posted on 04/06/2013 7:35:27 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Former Proud Canadian
pretty hard to keep something like the Bone landing on Guam a "Secret"...

iirc North Vietnam was given advanced warning when ever B-52's took off, expect more of the same

152 posted on 04/06/2013 7:36:11 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Old Sarge

Well, if it was broadcast in the open...It might have been a Cessna 172 flying around spoofing the airwaves...;-)


153 posted on 04/06/2013 7:41:43 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The Bone is a serious weapons platform. More load than a B52 and way faster and stealthier.


154 posted on 04/06/2013 7:43:40 AM PDT by omega4179
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To: Former Proud Canadian
seriously though, i hope this doesn't turn out to be another war.
155 posted on 04/06/2013 7:44:56 AM PDT by Drawn7979
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To: Strategerist

If you look at MacArthur’s successes, in balance with failures, he was something outstanding. You make statements that sound quite untrue. I am sure he and his people knew full well the realities of the Chinese and he was correct, we should have nuked them to freed ALL of the people of China and Korea from a horrible dictatorship that has been responsible for the murder of millions upon millions of citizens.


156 posted on 04/06/2013 7:47:11 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Rembrandt

You left out the Korean War.

Your list sounds like what my Grand Dad and his daughter my Mother used to say about who got us into big wars.


157 posted on 04/06/2013 7:51:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What do Sequester, Mayan Apocolypse, Y2K & Gorebull Warming have in common? They were/are 100% BS!)
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To: expat_panama

Show me where MacArthur said it was impossible for the Chinese to invade north Korea. Never did. He was a brilliant general and knew full well the possibilities of the enemies. And notwithstanding what some naysayers here say, the landing at Inchon and fast retaking of Seoul was awesome. He was also correct, we should have nuked Chinese forces and saved ALL of Korea. Think of all of the millions of Korean and possibly Chinese lives that would have been saved ultimately. And since when does speaking to the press for legitimate reason in order to possibly sway public opinion constitute an offense to be fired for?


158 posted on 04/06/2013 7:53:27 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: BIGLOOK; expat_panama

Big Look, the ride has changed since your active duty days.


159 posted on 04/06/2013 7:56:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (What do Sequester, Mayan Apocolypse, Y2K & Gorebull Warming have in common? They were/are 100% BS!)
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To: tomkat

Never saw one from the perspective of a KC-135 comparison. That is a big airplane. 50,000 bombs and about 200,000 lbs of fuel and 7,000 miles range.


160 posted on 04/06/2013 8:03:43 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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