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Obama to offer Social Security cuts in new budget in exchange for tax hikes
Hotair ^ | 04/05/2013 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 04/05/2013 9:22:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 04/05/2013 9:22:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

sticking it to the people who dont like him. again


2 posted on 04/05/2013 9:24:07 AM PDT by turdhopper
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To: SeekAndFind

AARP will still continue to kiss BO’s butt and tell seniors that they can make up the shortfall with AARP’s superb insurance programs.


3 posted on 04/05/2013 9:27:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey you POS-in-Chief, how about getting rid of free stuff to illegals and new immigrants who swore they would not be a burden to the American taxpayer.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 9:28:30 AM PDT by notaliberal ( Democraps denied God thrice!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Shove it up your smelly Obama, Obama.

Only fools, idiots, and progressives are buying your act any more.


5 posted on 04/05/2013 9:31:09 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

There is a trap buried in here somewhere.

I am sure the GOP will be credited with screwing over the old folks.


6 posted on 04/05/2013 9:32:00 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: SeekAndFind

At least they’re not going to cut welfare payments, EBT cards, subsidized housing or Obama phones. Aunt Zatootie and Uncle Obummer are relieved.


7 posted on 04/05/2013 9:32:00 AM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: Venturer
The man lies as usual.



Several programs, notably Social Security, which the White House said would be "cut" under President Obama's fiscal 2014 budget which he's finally unveiling next week would actually grow at close to the currently projected rates, according to experts.

Instead of the "cuts" heralded in headlines today, the president's budget writers are seizing on a formula that simply tweaks the rate of growth. While it could still significantly reduce the projected 10-year budget deficit, it won't cut anything from what seniors, veterans, students and others who rely on the programs get.

In fact, one Senate analysis reveals that the Obama "cut" will lower slightly the growth of Social Security benefits over the next 10 years to 5.9 percent from 6.1 percent.

Ditto for reports on the "cuts" to Medicare. The plan is to reduce future payments in the program to doctors and hospitals, though wealthier recipients might see higher premiums.

Reports today said that the president plans to switch how inflation is measured to account for cost of living increase to something called a "chained Consumer Price Index," which many feel more accurately figures inflation.

The nonpartisan Moment of Truth Project headed by Democrats Erskine Bowles and Alice Rivlin and Republican Alan Simpson issued a report just last month that said the chained C.P.I. won't cut spending, but instead will limit future growth.

"Since 2000, the chained C.P.I. has, on average, been 0.25 to 0.3 percentage points lower per year than the standard C.P.I. measures. Though this difference is small on average, it compounds over time; depending on which index you use, prices have either increased by 34 percent or 29 percent (chained C.P.I.) between 2000 and 2011. Over a longer time frame, this difference would become even more pronounced," their report said.

More bluntly, their report quoted Robert Greenstein of the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, who said: "This change should not be regarded as a benefit cut or a tax increase. It should be regarded more as a technical change to achieve Congress's stated goal of keeping pace with inflation in as accurate a way as possible."

Plus, Obama would include financial protections for the poor and elderly, so they would be guaranteed from seeing any decreases.

Among the program spending increased tied to the C.P.I are Social Security, Obamacare, veterans benefits, Pell Grants, and taxes such as the alternative minimum tax.

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8 posted on 04/05/2013 9:35:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Venturer

Yea!! it’s the old Charlie Brown/Lucy football show again!
I’m sure the budget has some cuts but then replaces w/tax hikes..


9 posted on 04/05/2013 9:35:54 AM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: ladyjane

my first thoughts was how about welfare, EBT where they can use at strip club, get beer and wine, pay for their car payments etc.
how about stopping illegals getting free education, welfare, food stamps, health care etc, nah hit the old people who worked but then again the old idiots which voted for this turd pusher agenda deserve everything they get or should I say don’t get .

The north east, are you taking note, , old supposed to be Catholics voting all the time for the Dem regime


10 posted on 04/05/2013 9:37:07 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind
Take from senior US citizens that have been paying into social security their whole lives...transfer to new illegal democrats after both parties push amnesty through.

same pattern with Obamacare

11 posted on 04/05/2013 9:38:57 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: SeekAndFind

What a one-trick pony.

Embarrassing.


12 posted on 04/05/2013 9:39:21 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Noamie

RE: Embarrassing.

He does not know the meaning of the word. Neither did Clinton.


13 posted on 04/05/2013 9:40:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh but the media says that it’s the eeeevvvvviiiilllll Republicans who want to cut Medicare! Everybody knows the media wouldn’t lie.

< / is this necessary /s>


14 posted on 04/05/2013 9:44:24 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is the Republican leadership looking to cut SS? They need to go after plenty of other things like disability, food stamp and welfare and medicare fraud.


15 posted on 04/05/2013 9:45:26 AM PDT by ryan71 (The republican party is dead to me. Dead. Don't bother trying to revive it.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Cuts to foreign aid, UN climate-change, state department us-aid are never considered ....prioritizing quality of life US citizens comes last.

Ben Carson is correct ....this administration /government has done nothing to make our nation stronger.

16 posted on 04/05/2013 9:47:23 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: ryan71

Agreed, but all entitlements should be cut. Including SS. There simply aren’t enough young people working and the young people aren’t making enough to support the current benefits scheme.


17 posted on 04/05/2013 9:52:20 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: manc

Apparently you like losing elections. The only time the GOP ever won an election is with Catholic support.


18 posted on 04/05/2013 9:53:01 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: SeekAndFind

Boehner needs to respond in only a statement: How macroeconomics works—the more taken from the private sector, the smaller the private sector. The answer is no, this plan does not have the American Economy’s best interest in it. Record tax revenues are currently being collected, the spending needs to be managed. I, as Speaker of the House, will no longer join this failure.


19 posted on 04/05/2013 10:03:54 AM PDT by Son House (The Heath Care Recovery Never Gets Here, Like The Economic Recovery, Easily Predictable.)
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To: Venturer

talking points on how to blame republican’s are going out to the corrupt lapdog media as I type I bet


20 posted on 04/05/2013 10:05:27 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: JCBreckenridge

HUH, not sure what on earth you’re on about but to be clear, those north east Catholic elderly vote Dem, it’s the Dem which cut half a bullion out of medicare, now Obama cuts to SS and yet they still vote for him while they ignore their faith.

Again not sure what on earth you’re on about


21 posted on 04/05/2013 10:07:53 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ladyjane

Post of the Day!


22 posted on 04/05/2013 10:09:18 AM PDT by rhubarbk (BHO = FUBAR)
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To: manc

White Catholics went 60/40 for Romney.


23 posted on 04/05/2013 10:10:28 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: SeekAndFind

The purpose of tax hikes is not to reduce budget deficits. Tax hikes are intended to allow increases rather than decreases in spending and to fund those fun new programs that O loves so much.


24 posted on 04/05/2013 10:17:14 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: JCBreckenridge

true but the north east with all of it’s Catholics should be the most conservative and it isn’t because they call themselves Catholic but vote against their faith


25 posted on 04/05/2013 10:21:22 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind
The U.S. government has great power over the citizen. The most pervasive and persuasive is the power to tax. It controls much of your behavior, and takes your property. I believe confiscatory tax rates are tyranny.

Then, the federal government has a standing army which is extremely power. Both directly, and indirectly has an impact in your life. Posse Comitatus has been violated many times in our history.

Soon I will be sixty. I'm educated, experienced, well traveled and a Vet. I am a law abiding citizen...

I have been in situations were I could have been killed. I have been seriously injured...

To be honest with everyone, my government scares me.

5.56mm

26 posted on 04/05/2013 10:36:44 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
power? What happened to the "ful?"

5.56mm

27 posted on 04/05/2013 10:38:26 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: JCBreckenridge; manc

Your post didn’t make any sense.

Manc merely pointed out that members of the Catholic church are majority democrat voters, since Protestants can’t make up for both the Catholic and the atheist voters, of course republicans generally lose.


28 posted on 04/05/2013 10:41:37 AM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

my social security is not an entitlement, it is earned just like unemployment pay (when not abused for 99 weeks) because it was taken from my income without my consent. if i had a choice i would have NEVER opted for social security. cut welfare, entitlements, food stamps and other parasitic payments.


29 posted on 04/05/2013 10:46:56 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government shoud fear us.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I stopped at DU after I read this today. If you want a really good laugh, go take a look at their page. The whole dam kit & caboodle is going over the edge. Lots of disparaging remarks concerning the Mark of 0 on this one and the poor Dummies lives.
30 posted on 04/05/2013 10:47:42 AM PDT by skimbell
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“my social security is not an entitlement, it is earned just like unemployment pay”

Not true. Your SS is an entitlement because the money being provided to today’s recipient is being taken out of working people’s income.

“because it was taken from my income”

True. You did have SS funds stolen from you to give to others throughout your working career. The problem is that those at that time felt an entitlement to make a claim to your income. Now you feel entitled to make a claim to other people’s income.

It is a broken system and if any private investor did the same thing that our government is doing, then they would name them Madoff or Ponzi....

The entire SS system is evil and heartbreaking.


31 posted on 04/05/2013 10:51:37 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: ansel12

Maybe the Republicans should bring Catholics into the coalition.


32 posted on 04/05/2013 11:00:23 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Another post that doesn’t make sense, you think the democrats are the only party that tries to win Catholic support?

The republicans try, but they cannot change their platform and drop life and marriage to do it, no one is excluding Catholics out of any “coalition”, it is the opposite, republicans for generations have been trying to figure out a way to get Catholics to switch parties.


33 posted on 04/05/2013 11:15:12 AM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ansel12

Which is why so many republicans are dropping life and marriage. Folks like Portman et al.

I see.

I guess the Republican party figures that it’s future is to court liberal protestants rather than Catholic conservatives.

At least you’ll have a home!


34 posted on 04/05/2013 11:21:37 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: notaliberal

Documentation File on the negative impact of the Obamanation Counterculture on America.


35 posted on 04/05/2013 11:29:54 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Da Coyote
Only fools, idiots, and progressives are buying your act any more.

But unfortunately they're in the majority.

36 posted on 04/05/2013 11:36:12 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Man that doesn’t make any sense.

You defend Catholic voting for Obama, because the democrat party and it’s pro-abortion and pro-homosexual agenda is better than the pro-life, pro-marriage platform of the GOP?

The republican party always wins the Protestant vote and has elements within it that think they must move left to win the Catholic vote, your devotion to and defense of the democrat vote is just amazing.


37 posted on 04/05/2013 11:47:30 AM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: ansel12

Oh, so you believed Romney when he said he was prolife and supported traditional marraige?


38 posted on 04/05/2013 12:08:17 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: ansel12

EXACTLY.

The north east is mostly made up of Catholic voters, they call themselves that and yet they vote Dem.

If these people in NJ, NY, PA, NH, MA, RI, etc all voted with their so called faith and preached what they call themselves then we would not have had the radical lunatic or many Dems in congress and we certainly would not have had the homosexual lobby going state to state pushing their agenda.


39 posted on 04/05/2013 12:12:15 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: JCBreckenridge

You think that Obama won the Catholic vote in 2008 because of Mitt Romney?


40 posted on 04/05/2013 12:15:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

My extended family is Catholic and for generations the majority of them have voted Republican. Most of them live in the New York area. My late uncle, a Catholic, was a Republican party official on Long Island, NY many years ago.

My first cousin....she’s an elementary school teacher on Long Island, and a Catholic, told me in late October that she couldn’t wait to go the polls and vote for Romney. She said she wished she could vote for him twice. When I asked her about damage from Superstorm Sandy, she told me she would swim to the polls if she had to.

I also have relatives who have lived their entire lives in Massachusetts and they are staunch conservatives, as well as Catholic. So, there’s hope.

The Catholic vote is skewed because, unfortunately, vast numbers of Mexican and Puerto Rican Catholics vote for the dems.


41 posted on 04/05/2013 12:16:48 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 4, 2008 and November 6, 2012.....Two days that will live in infamy!)
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What do you think happened to California?

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42 posted on 04/05/2013 12:54:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

The thing is that the Catholic vote has always been democrat, there are only about five exceptions in our history, Catholics immigrating from the most Catholic nations are not really changing anything, they are just keeping it normal.


43 posted on 04/05/2013 12:56:57 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He simply “filled the order” required. Doubt any thought put into it as he knows it won’t fly. But he can say he did it, and that’s about the it of it....next!


44 posted on 04/05/2013 1:02:11 PM PDT by caww
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To: Vigilanteman
they can make up the shortfall with AARP’s superb insurance programs.
Actually, they're not AARP's insurance programs.
AARP just supports and/or advocates for the ones that give them the biggest kickbacks.
45 posted on 04/05/2013 1:05:25 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting that he is willing to cut the one thing that Americans are forced to pay into and actually have skin in that game.


46 posted on 04/05/2013 1:12:14 PM PDT by kempster
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

And that, precisely, is my thesis. Thank you. It’s not about Catholicism. It’s about race.


47 posted on 04/05/2013 1:20:22 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: ansel12

The last time Republicans won is when they won the Catholic vote.

Perhaps Republicans should be waking up to that fact.


48 posted on 04/05/2013 1:21:16 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

You are saying that democrats do win because of the Catholic vote, and the reason the republicans won the popular vote in 2004 is because when Protestants can get 50 or 51% of the Catholics to vote pro-life conservative, then the democrats lose.

I think that is what the point is, the fact that the Catholic vote is what the democrats depend on and pin their hopes on, and they pray for more Catholics and atheists.


49 posted on 04/05/2013 1:39:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
The last time Republicans won is when they won the Catholic vote.
Perhaps Republicans should be waking up to that fact.

Can you explain your promotion of the democrat party and their agenda? Your claim is that the democrat party is naturally the home of Catholics because the republicans have the wrong politics in comparison, that their pro-abortion democrat vote is appropriate for Catholics.

50 posted on 04/05/2013 1:44:25 PM PDT by ansel12 (The lefts most effective quote-I'm libertarian on social issues, but conservative on economics.)
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