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Hagel hints at military pay cuts, dings Reagan DOD
Washington Examiner ^ | 4/3/2013 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 04/03/2013 2:53:35 PM PDT by markomalley

Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel called for the Defense Department to be organized more efficiently than it was under Ronald Reagan after raising the possibility of cuts in pay and benefits for military members.

Hagel blamed the prospective cuts on sequestration. “[F]iscal realities demand another hard look at personnel – how many people we have both military and civilian, how many we need, what these people do, and how we compensate them for their work, service, and loyalty with pay, benefits and health care,” Hagel said at the National Defense University today.

He also hinted at cutting jobs for military brass. “The last major defense re-organization, Goldwater-Nichols, was drafted at the height of the Reagan defense buildup and focused on improving jointness and establishing clear operational chains of command,” Hagel said. “Cost and efficiency were not major considerations . . . Today the operational forces of the military – measured in battalions, ships, and aircraft wings – have shrunk dramatically since the Cold War era. Yet the three and four star command and support structures sitting atop these smaller fighting forces have stayed intact, with minor exceptions, and in some cases they are actually increasing in size and rank.”

Hagel devoted much of the speech to discussing how to cut military spending, but argued against withdrawal from the world.

“America does not have the luxury of retrenchment – we have too many global interests at stake, including our security, our prosperity, and our future,” he said in conclusion. “We have made mistakes and miscalculations with our great power. But as history has advanced, America has helped make a better world for all people with its power. A world where America does not lead is not the world I wish my children to inherit.”


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chuckhagel; dod; dodcuts; hagel; iran; kenyanbornmuzzie; reagan; sequester; waronterror
From the text of the speech:
With full recognition for the great stresses that our troops and their families have been under and been under for nearly twelve years of war, and for the essential contributions civilian employees make to the Department’s mission, fiscal realities demand another hard look at personnel – how many people we have both military and civilian, how many we need, what these people do, and how we compensate them for their work, service, and loyalty with pay, benefits and health care. This will involve asking tough questions.

1 posted on 04/03/2013 2:53:35 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Hagel seems to forget that Reagan DOD has been changed over the years...Hagel’s boss is now in charge....has been for nearly 6 years, now.


2 posted on 04/03/2013 2:55:55 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: markomalley
Hagel blamed the prospective cuts on sequestration.

Maybe I'm being a word nazi but isn't "sequestration" a legal concept which mandates cuts?

So, he's blaming the cuts on the cuts?

Brilliant.

3 posted on 04/03/2013 2:57:17 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: markomalley

Hagel then went on to say that to make up for lost salary, troops could require citizens to take them in, feed them, and be able to keep a certain amount of spoils from citizens and enemy combatants.

“George W Bush had it wrong, but King George had it right,” said Hagel.

/not really sarc


4 posted on 04/03/2013 3:01:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

So he’s basically outright blaming it on Obama. He’s got some nerve.

Obama was the architect of the sequester concept.

Republican leaders are in it with Obama sadly. They knew no matter what they’d be blamed. If they opposed it, they’d be blamed for rejecting ideas and obstructionism. If they supported it, it’s suddenly their fault the plan gets put into action even though it’s Obama’s plan.

They are too smart to fall for this, which is why the only logical conclusion is the RINO leadership is just the yin to Obama’s yang. The conservative purge and “I trust Obama absolutely” just make it irrefutable.


5 posted on 04/03/2013 3:05:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: markomalley

I hope he’s starting by slashing his own salary, benefits and pension and those of all civilians in his department. And slash the number of employees and offices and other wasteful overhead while he’s at it.


6 posted on 04/03/2013 3:08:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!n)
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Lemme guess... 5%.


7 posted on 04/03/2013 3:32:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yet another example of ignoring the Constitution. The Third Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.


8 posted on 04/03/2013 3:34:11 PM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Jim Robinson

It’s just another way of showing their contempt for the Military forces of the U.S.


9 posted on 04/03/2013 3:34:55 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: markomalley

How much is being spent on recruiting drives, I wonder. Can that be cut?


10 posted on 04/03/2013 3:45:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: markomalley

Hagel really meant to say:

“We have made mistakes and miscalculations with our great power, and Obama and I plan to continue with them”.


11 posted on 04/03/2013 4:18:18 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: markomalley

Hagel should really start by cutting appropriations for the Beltway Bandits.

And, meanwhile, Obama and the Dems plot to shower illegal immigrants with benefits.


12 posted on 04/03/2013 4:43:56 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks markomalley.
13 posted on 04/03/2013 4:58:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: markomalley

Well, Hagel, don’t worry about it. Just issue some more daggers.

I’m afraid there will soon come a day when only armed citizens will be able to fight against our invaders. And that’s only if the citizens have any arms.


14 posted on 04/03/2013 6:14:59 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: markomalley
The United States military has almost always been very effective at inefficiently achieving their mission. I don't have a problem with cutting top brass. The military is top heavy. They will get jobs lobbying or as defense contractors. Our real Inefficiencies are based on how we wage war.

The problem we have is with this entire rebuilding of nations. This I consider G.W. Bush's fatal legacy. Our military was capable of winning wars in days or weeks, now I am not certain. The one thing I am certain is that we have too many good men rotating in and out of combat on a regular basis. They do not get to return home as victors and get to stay home to train the next in line.

We spend millions on smart weapons when carpet bombing with inexpensive "dumb" bombs would actually do a more effective job. My point here is simple, we need to change the minds and spirits of our enemies. Scaring the hell out of them and sending them back to the 8th century is more effective and cheaper than rebuilding/upgrading their already backward societies. We need to demoralize our enemies to the point that they ask for unconditional surrender.

That saves lives on both sides, but more importantly it saves American lives and American treasure.

15 posted on 04/03/2013 7:04:02 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: ConservativeInPA

we’re not going to be “smart” about anything....we will waste good personal, good weapons, and ammo and supplies and it’ll all be because we don’t want to really “win” anything and afterall, all that military defense money makes billions for the crony capitalists..


16 posted on 04/03/2013 7:54:42 PM PDT by cherry
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To: ConservativeInPA

How about cutting welfare, you know stop supporting the worthless pieces of human excriment that are too damn lazy to work!!!!!!!!!!!


17 posted on 04/03/2013 8:07:56 PM PDT by CMS (I have not heard any politcians say how to take away guns from criminals, just law abiding citizens)
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To: CMS

That too.


18 posted on 04/03/2013 8:20:37 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: shooter223

Good lord.....that poster wasn’t being serious.


19 posted on 04/03/2013 9:32:18 PM PDT by CMS (I have not heard any politcians say how to take away guns from criminals, just law abiding citizens)
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To: markomalley
With full recognition for the great stresses that our troops and their families have been under and been under for nearly twelve years of war, and for the essential contributions civilian employees make to the Department’s mission, fiscal realities demand another hard look at personnel – how many people we have both military and civilian, how many we need, what these people do, and how we compensate them for their work, service, and loyalty with pay, benefits and health care. This will involve asking tough questions.

What he is really saying is he wants to screw over active duty and the veterans who have served this nation by further eroding military healthcare and pay.

Meanwhile, one in five Americans are on Social Security Disability or Food Stamps, and the numbers go up by the thousands every single day. We seem to have an endless pile of money for that.

We reward the takers, and punish the noble.

Our military has been under fiscal assault for years. Things are about to get even worse.

Hagel's views on Israel alone should have disqualified him.

This is going to be a disastrous time for the DoD, Israel, and America.

20 posted on 04/04/2013 6:27:06 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: markomalley

This is how America will end. The Holy Bible does not mention the USA in the end times. America will not be America that we knew and loved when the end comes. Something is going to happen to America that brings it down. I believe the Rapture of the Church will be the most significant thing, but this, down sizing the US military will be another. America simply will not be able to defend itself from China and Russia acting together, with larger military machines than a tiny America force. America is going down folks. Those that simply do not believe that need to crack open a Bible and read. The Bible predicted the One World Government over 3,000 years ago. That alone tells you the Holy Word of God is true and not some Jewish camp fire writings. The Bible clearly shows this One World Government was coming, and it is right there for us all too see. And the Word told us this 3,000 years ago. Time for you that simply refuse to believe, to give Christ another look. It is the only way out of this mess. Eternity is a heck of a lot longer than your 60 or 70 earth years. Think about it.


21 posted on 04/04/2013 8:59:49 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: illiac

8 years of the Philandered in Chief played a big role.


22 posted on 04/05/2013 6:53:45 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: CMS; Secret Agent Man

I missed the “/not really sarc” on the first read. Classic case of not paying attention. My bad.


23 posted on 04/05/2013 8:07:16 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: markomalley

Louis Johnson redux?


24 posted on 04/05/2013 8:19:48 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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