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Global Warming? Oops! Never Mind!
The AMERICAN THINKER ^ | April 1, 2013 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 04/01/2013 10:20:39 AM PDT by Moseley

What was the Earth's temperature yesterday? Nobody knows. In fact, it's a ridiculous question. Almost every place on Earth today has a different temperature from that of any other location. So, is our planet's temperature rising? Do we even know?

However, it is officially admitted: Global warming stopped 15-20 years ago. The mainstream media is struggling very hard to explain this away. They admit that the Earth stopped warming 15 to 20 years ago. But just you wait -- disaster is coming unless we vote liberals into office. They cannot explain the pause. Yet they "know" global warming will kill us all unless we vote Democrat.

So was global warming ever real? Or is this hysteria a hoax, like the Y2K computer disaster that never happened?

Just concerning today's temperature first, we would have to measure hundreds of thousands of locations and then average temperatures from all over the planet. We don't have that many weather stations. So we don't even know what yesterday's temperature for the planet was. We certainly don't know what the temperature was a hundred years ago or a thousand years ago.

Are today's weather measurements accurate? Heck no. Weather stations are measuring the jet blast from airplanes taking off at airports, the heat from air conditioners on office building rooftops, the heat of asphalt parking lots and streets and cities.

Meteorologist Anthony Watts is one of the greatest heroes of truth and freedom. His blog "Watts Up With That?" has changed the world and is one of the most influential resources on global warming. Watts became truly famous with his recurring "How Not to Measure Temperature" series reviewing the world's automated weather stations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: climatechange; economist; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gorebullwarming; wattsup

1 posted on 04/01/2013 10:20:39 AM PDT by Moseley
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To: Moseley
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2 posted on 04/01/2013 10:21:23 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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To: Moseley

This is one question

H ow accurate were our observations 100 plus years ago?


3 posted on 04/01/2013 10:22:45 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Moseley

I posted before i read the article thats what Im talking about


4 posted on 04/01/2013 10:24:31 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Moseley

Anyone who has ever done a four-hour, 0130 preflight in January on the ramp aboard NAS BRUNSWICK knows all too well that “Global Warming” was nothing more than a cruel hoax perpetrated by the Air Force.


5 posted on 04/01/2013 10:24:40 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: al baby

THAT is the single most important question in this whole $Trillion dollar fiasco.

There is a concept in science called SIGNIFICANT DIGITS. It basically explains why you cannot be more accurate than your measuring device.

If all you have is a yardstick, you cannot express measurment of distance in thousandths of an inch.

So... if all you have from past history is tree rings, you cannot say global warming has increased .5 degres. It is fundamentally impossible.

But that is the data they used to show the ‘hockey stick’ graph, which in itself was skewed to show a sharp turn, and then later shown to be based on FAKE DATA.

So... where do we go to get a refund on the $trillons of dollars wasted on this FRAUD?

And how do we stop Congress? They are STILL talking about the carbon tax.


6 posted on 04/01/2013 10:30:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: al baby
So global warming hysteria is based not on any accurate measurements of global climate, but rather on "proxies." That is, scientists give their interpretation of tree rings and bacterial samples in fossils. Global warming "science" is strikingly similar to a witch doctor reading the entrails of a goat.

I think the best test of our computer models is when they set them up to predict the past. They fail miserably. But that does prove one thing, our computer models will come up with the wrong answer.

7 posted on 04/01/2013 10:31:00 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Moseley

I am sure that in the very near future all of the Liberal politicians will be doing their Judas denials regarding global warming.Who knows, AlGore may be leading the pack.

Sort of like the DOM Act.


8 posted on 04/01/2013 10:32:16 AM PDT by Cyman
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To: Moseley

Or is this hysteria a hoax, like the Y2K computer disaster that never happened?


This is a really bad example to use. It never happened because we spent a lot of money, internationally, remediating code.

We do not want to spend billions and trillions “fixing” global warming.


9 posted on 04/01/2013 10:36:55 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Moseley

So, when do the stupid lefties revert back to the “little ice age” message?


10 posted on 04/01/2013 10:39:19 AM PDT by ryan71 (The republican party is dead to me. Dead. Don't bother trying to revive it.)
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To: Moseley
Watts became truly famous with his recurring "How Not to Measure Temperature" series reviewing the world's automated weather stations.

FWIW on any given sunny day, the temperature in my back yard is 5 degrees cooler than the temperature in my front yard.

11 posted on 04/01/2013 10:39:48 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Moseley

I just read the Economist article. They are backpedaling big time.

It’s all the unknowns.

1. How sensitive is the climate to extra carbon?
2. What is the effect of aerosols, soot and sulfur?
3. Does more clouds mean more warming?
4. Is the deep ocean warming or cooling and if so, is that good or bad?

Basically they predict inaccurately because of the complexity. They admit to this. To change how we emit pollutants could be counterproductive, even if the change was free.

Yet this stuff is taught to our children as if it was religion.


12 posted on 04/01/2013 10:45:55 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Cyman

Just as enviro-whackos forced fast food places to use trans fats instead of the evil beef tallow (then changed their minds) and forced the use of MTBE in gasoline (then changed their minds). These leftist tools will never be blamed for any of their disasters. They are destroying our way of life and making us sicker, poorer, and less safe with their crappy low flush toilets (pun intended), expensive appliances that don’t do the job, and cleaning products that don’t clean. The American people really are a bunch of mindless sheep if they continue to let these people make us all miserable.

My daughter has a new “efficient” dishwasher that takes 4 hours to run a cycle and still leaves the dishes wet. With 3 kids in the household, they have to run the thing twice a day some days. How is that efficient? If anybody knows how to obtain appliances that still work, please clue me in.


13 posted on 04/01/2013 11:08:25 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Moseley

So was global warming ever real? Or is this hysteria a hoax, like the Y2K computer disaster that never happened?

That is just plain ignorant. The reason Y2K did not happen is the number of man-hours IT deparments put in to see that it did not happen.


14 posted on 04/01/2013 11:32:21 AM PDT by pas
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To: Moseley

I am belaboring the obvious but its worth saying one more time. Global warming is a tool as is everything that the progressive left do. It was never about a real problem it was about using the hype and hysteria of the non problem to transform society. The same was done with abortion as is currently being done with same sex marriage. Everything is a tool to an end to increase the political and social power of the left. If you ever allow yourself to think naively that global warming is about a threat of rising temperature or that abortion is really a threat to women who would get them illegally or that same sex marriage is about people who love each other being denied rights that everyone else has then you have fallen into their trap because once you let them get past the false idea of the problem to the idea that a solution must be implemented to address their largely imaginary problems we have lost.


15 posted on 04/01/2013 11:47:57 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: pas; cuban leaf

Dittos to both of you.

So much was spend on fixing the code — which often meant complete systems overhauls — that it started the inflation of the tech bubble. The Y2K problem may have been “hyped”; but, it was a real problem, and it had real fixes.

Another analogy would be putting lightning rods on the barn. The barn then never gets hit by lightning. Does that prove that the threat of lightning strikes was a “hoax”?


16 posted on 04/01/2013 11:50:28 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Moseley
The premise that man made CO2 is changing the climate and must be dealt with by more government taxes and programs is too good a crisis to go to waste. The global warming cult will just quietly switch gears, call it "climate change" and push the doublethink that CO2 is the cause of BOTH global warming and global cooling at the same time. The media, low information voters and kids who have been fed this climate change garbage in our schools instead of real science will accept accept this contradiction without any problem. Remember how in George Orwell's book 1984 the truth was distorted with so many ever changing lies that it became impossible to know what was really true? "We have always been at war with Eurasia"
17 posted on 04/01/2013 11:59:43 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Moseley
Two critical questions are never asked, so they don't have to be answered by the global warming hoaxers.

1. What is the ideal earth atmospheric temperature?

2. Are we getting closer or further from it?

18 posted on 04/01/2013 12:18:29 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Moseley
the Y2K computer disaster that never happened?

Sigh. The y2K disaster didn't happen because a whole lot of people worked their butts off to ensure that it wouldn't.

Y2K was based on fact. "Lookit the code. Right there. Unless we make X, Y, and Z modifications, it's going to break on 01/01/2000, sure as the sun will come up that day." Global warming, or whatever they're calling it now, is based on flawed premises and popular conjecture.

Now, would Y2K have caused global thermonucler meltdowns, thus destroying the world and living up to its hype? Nah, at worst it might have done some serious snarling of financial transactions. Dammed inconvenient, but not the end of the world.

So, IMHO, the author is right, but has the wrong reasoning.

19 posted on 04/01/2013 12:25:22 PM PDT by wbill
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20 posted on 04/01/2013 1:00:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Okay, okay! Do you want me to dump on my editor? The paragraph was shortened re: Y2K. In my original draft, the distinction was more clear.

But you get the point. No offense intended. Sorry.


21 posted on 04/01/2013 1:36:51 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; justa-hairyape; Lonesome in Massachussets; Moseley; SunkenCiv; ...
Thanks for the ping .

From this thread....article from WUWT? website:

The Mail on Sunday takes on the CCC ( CCC= Committee on Climate Change )

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And comment from justa-hairyape :

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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

This is not even weak validation, it is strong refutation.

They are stuck. By claiming the science was settled, they have no where to run. One of the dumbest groups of people this planet has ever produced. They do not have much of an ability to think ahead.

The second group of the planets dumbest people, are the morons who decided running nuclear plants that required external power to prevent a meltdown, was a workable idea. They also lack the ability to think ahead.

9 posted on Sun 31 Mar 2013 15:42:11 PDT by justa-hairyape

22 posted on 04/01/2013 2:24:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Moseley
The notion that Y2K was a hoax is being repeated often — you're certainly not the only one to do so. (And, apparently, it was your editor who muddied things up.) It's likely to become a “meme”* — but that would destroy any possibility of learning from the experience.

* (The term “meme” is one of the most overused and misused, made-up words ever. I hate it — but, I've tried to use it correctly here. If there is a correct way to use it. )

23 posted on 04/01/2013 2:32:27 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A lot of media outlets will be slowly but surely walking this back. In a couple of years, they will be *denying* that they ever helped propagate the AWG scam. Heck, they’ll be *denying* that anyone ever suggested that global warming was a concern. They already do that, regarding the big “coming ice age” scare of the 1970’s.


24 posted on 04/01/2013 2:36:20 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Tis easy to relate to the NT Book to the Romans, Chapter one, verse twenty two, where it is written:

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
25 posted on 04/01/2013 2:46:55 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Moseley
And the one easy way humans can accurately gage temperatures without any man made devices, is water frozen or liquid, is attacked by the AGW acolytes when they tried to laughably insinuate that more snow means more warmth.
26 posted on 04/01/2013 3:31:56 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Mr. K
And how do we stop Congress? They are STILL talking about the carbon tax.

This is the dire situation we are currently stuck within and it will end in overthrow of all Western Governments or the annihilation of all Western Governments.

Western Governments are broke. Broke beyond broke. They need new bubbles for their economic bubble generating virtual machines. AGW or Global Warming was going to be the next bubble generator for their insane economy. They cannot give it up. They need the money very badly or they will collapse.

In fact they need money so badly they forced Obamacare on the US public illegally just so they could raise taxes by denying us health care. And look what they just did to Cyprus.

27 posted on 04/01/2013 3:37:37 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well I should not have tagged on that nuclear swipe to the AGW article. Was off topic as they say. And our nuclear workers need to concentrate all their efforts onto the Arkansas nuclear plant. They dropped a huge assembly in the turbine unit for #1 Sunday morning. It killed one and injured 6-8 more. It was so heavy it fell through a couple of floors in the turbine building, shorted out power for unit #1. That unit was shutdown due to work on turbine building. It has lost offsite power though and is cooling on generators.

Unit #2 was at 100 % power and shutdown due to the vibration of the falling massive assembly. Had to scram. It thought it was an earthquake. Both are running on external power. The plant has been venting steam for over a day, but it is steam that is not radioactive. Their is supposedly no circulation to the spent fuel pools.

Thinking ahead, what a concept.

28 posted on 04/01/2013 3:49:57 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Moseley
A sensitive matter

The climate may be heating up less in response to greenhouse-gas emissions than was once thought. But that does not mean the problem is going away

Michael Barone: The Economist's Emily Litella moment on global warming
29 posted on 04/01/2013 4:01:27 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping.


30 posted on 04/01/2013 4:16:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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To: Moseley
The mainstream media is struggling very hard to explain this away. They admit that the Earth stopped warming 15 to 20 years ago. But just you wait -- disaster is coming unless we vote liberals into office. They cannot explain the pause. Yet they "know" global warming will kill us all unless we vote Democrat.

The MSM AND liberal democrats are scammers. This is a hoax - and both groups know it..

31 posted on 04/01/2013 4:27:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (DHS HAS secured: 1.6 BILLION bullets - 2.700 tanks and 35,000 drones ...to use on American soil...)
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To: Mr. K

I’ve tried & tried explaining significant digits to both Libs & normal, run of the mill ignoramuses, with zero comprehension on their part.

Worse yet is LEAST SIGNIFICANT DIGIT, when measurements have been made with multiple instruments that have different degrees of accuracy & precision.

Oh, that’s right; they also don’t understand the difference between ACCURACY & PRECISION. It draws a blank stare, followed by, “yeah, right; whatever,” when you try to explain that a precise reading can still be an inaccurate measurement.


32 posted on 04/01/2013 6:02:07 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thank you! Yes, it is coming back to me on “Worse yet is LEAST SIGNIFICANT DIGIT, “

So if you try to compile data consisting of studying bacteria, tree rings, and accurate thermometer readings, the accuracy is limited by the least accurate measurement put in the mix. So the entire enterprise is no more accurate than making guesses based on studying long-dead bacteria.


33 posted on 04/01/2013 8:38:43 PM PDT by Moseley (http://www.curesocialism.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The religion of deception and the rise of the anti-christ.

That will be the hallmark of the anti-christ, he will cause deception to increase.
34 posted on 04/02/2013 12:41:52 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: ApplegateRanch

its surprising how difficult some people find that concept


35 posted on 04/02/2013 5:21:52 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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