Skip to comments.Obama administration moves ahead with sweeping rules requiring cleaner gasoline
Posted on 03/28/2013 4:27:50 PM PDT by lowbridge
The Environmental Protection Agency will move ahead Friday with rules requiring cleaner gasoline and cars nationwide, despite fierce protests from the oil industry and some conservative Democrats, according to several individuals briefed on the matter.
The proposed rules which had been stuck in regulatory limbo since December 2011 in the face of intense political opposition would cut the amount of sulfur in U.S. gasoline by two-thirds and impose fleetwide pollution limits on new vehicles by 2017.
The regulation enjoys support from auto companies, state regulators, environmental groups and equipment manufacturers. But oil industry officials and their congressional allies argue the proposed standards would raise gasoline prices and could result in greater carbon dioxide emissions because they will spur additional refining activity.
Opponents estimate the standards would force refiners to spend $10 billion to upgrade their facilities and an additional $2.4 billion in annual operating costs, adding 6 to 9 cents to the cost of a gallon of gas. Public health advocates say the ultimate cost would amount to less than a penny per gallon because of provisions giving refiners flexibility in complying with the standards.
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You keep kicking and eventually the whole thing tumbles down.
Keep going on with imposing stricter standards. The price of a car is already out of what most people can afford. Put everything on hiatus, develop real solutions to real problems obtain limited unemployment than think about stricter standards. But DC use their brain come now lets be realistic!
The ultimate goal of a dictator is to wave his wand and just point it at a human being and henchmen will kill that one in the manner so desired by the dictator.
That's a lot more fun than just having Ubama take stuff and give it to them.
I say these so called public health advocates pay us all the difference out of their own pocket if and when theyre proven wrong.
It has nothing to do with emissions, and everything to do with control. The goal of obama and his minions is nationalization of the oil industry, and the entire energy sector in the US. The goal is to reduce the private companies down to small enough number that the feds can easily take over, for the common good of course. Mergers and aquisitions help condense entire industries down to a few owners, which make them big fat targets for government takeover.
The more the government legislates against a paticular industry, means that they want that industry under their complete control, for the common good of course. In other words, fascism.
I never would've guessed that in a so-called Republic a handful of people could get away with destroying The Country while everyone stood by and watched.
Debt to Amerikkka!
They don’t care that Ethanol does not clean air and it destroys engines. They don’t care.
My Governor O’Mally just tacked on 4 cent for this summer with another 16 cents by 2016, Obama tacks on another charge for cleaning gas up we pay a subsidy to farmers for adding ethanol
Anybody else getting tired of being screwed without a kiss?
B.S. Obama held it up until he was safely re-elected.
Of course progressives realize that overtly banning private autos would never fly in the US. So year by year they are pricing them out of reach of anyone but the elites. 20 yrs from now the segment of the public with personal vehicles will be a fraction of current numbers.
Do you notice that the 0 just keeps probing and picking and adding. Like a bunch of mosquitoes that pick and bite And sting and bother you. They will hope we will eventually give up and surrender.
BUT WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER-
Agreed, gas stations will get blamed for raising prices.
“BUT WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER-”
That is a very noble statement if one is being invaded by a foreign power, but what will YOU do while being invaded by your own moronic citizens and their illegal Marxist POTUS that they have reelected.
Obamanation Counterculture File.
The last time EPA mandated "cleaner gasoline," we got an environmental disaster with MTBE in polluted groundwater. The oil industry had lobbied for the additive (quietly) as a competing product with the ethanol ADM was pushing. They knew at the time of the potential for MTBE to leak into soil and migrate long distances because it had already happened in Rahway, NJ in 1987. Accordingly, the Clean Air Act of 1990 (signed by 'the environmental president' GHWB) indemnified the oil companies for the oxygenate additive. In private meetings at the EPA, big oil's toady "green group" the NRDC had agreed to the deal (the NRDC lawyer present was David Donniger), and then the industry issued 'protests' prior to the adoption of the rule for public consumption.
Hence, you can't tell from reports like this what the hell may be going on in reality.
Anything to help destroy us, He leaves nothing unturned....
Elana Kagan is a big fan of federal agencies that circumvent Congress and allow the Executive to dictate through them. In some of the few legal opinions she wrote before her nomination for scotus, she spoke glowingly of the practice.
And where is congress once again?
That is 0’s plan and I won’t surrender to that either.
I think my 96 RAV4 is sitting in the driveway going up in value.
“After my election I have more flexibility.”
Which is their intent IMHO, especially lawncare, tractors etc devices.
My lawnmower runs like crap on this fuel, if the carb wasn't so complicated I'd propane convert it in a heartbeat.
But their goal IMHO is to have us buy electrical varients of these devices or not do yard-scaping at all, as some sort of "green" landscape would be much more earth friendly.....
Talk to your favorite CPA's etc off the record and find out how many small businesses have given up the ghost since 08' and how many vacant store fronts you have in your town post 08' because they can't make it in the regulatory, Obamacare, and lack of commerical paper environment post Dodd Frank...
get the Nomenklatura all in Volts and the serfs and peons on the choo choo that our overlords so graciously supplied to get you to the job at the GM broom factory.
“It has nothing to do with emissions, and everything to do with control. The goal of obama and his minions is nationalization of the oil industry, and the entire energy sector in the US. “
“Public health advocates say the ultimate cost would amount to less than a penny per gallon”
Because we all know that public health advocates are experts on hydrocarbon refining.
the same pols who are pushing for the new rules will be the same ones at the front of the microphones wailing against higher gasoline prices, and more than the rules themselves it’s their ignorant hypocrisy that is the biggest injustice to the public
It really annoys me that when people say I shouldn’t racially profile, or be “scared” around groups of black people.
I know that a lot of blacks aren’t violent thugs. But I also know that black on (race) crime is higher than any other group. But try to bring up the facts and you get labelled a racist. At some point people are going to have to acknowledge the facts and not be politically correct. All humans are equal, but all cultures are NOT equal. It’s as simple as that.
Political correctness and affirmative action will both end the moment Ubama declares martial law.
He will simultaneously defund theie EBT cards, giving Eric Holder's people the "go" signal they have been waiting for.
As I oft tell my Obama-loving mother-in-law, Obama really does like the poor, which is why he creates so many of them.
Can you translate that for us non-mechanics?
I’ve rebuilt a carburetor once or twice, but that’s the extent of my expertise.
It also allows the compression ratio of the engine to be raised well above normal, which results in more power and better fuel economy. Unfortunately, this change also increases the NOx gases in the exhaust, which requires wnat's known as a de-NOx catalytic converter. While this works, de-NOx catalytic converters cannot work with gasoline that have more than 10 parts per million of sulfur compounds. With the new EPA requirement that all gasoline must be limited to no more than 10 ppm of sulfur compounds, that makes de-NOx catalytic converters viable, making it possible for more powerful GDI engines with lower fuel consumption.
That’s it in a nutshell. This sob is Mussolini all over
“It has nothing to do with emissions, and everything to do with control. The goal of obama and his minions is nationalization of the oil industry, and the entire energy sector in the US.”
The absolute control of everything. The government is out of control and needs to be reined in
So would this mean new federal requirements for auto manufacturers going forward? Is this something that’s going to increase the cost of our next cars?
The engines I’ve described have been available in Europe for just over five years. That’s why Audi and BMW’s have GDI engines sold in Europe, and now we’ll see a lot more of them in the USA.
So these new rules aren’t as big a deal as we would suspect.
Thanks for the insight!