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After decade of war, troops still struggling to find work
Washington Post ^ | 19 Mar 13 | Greg Jaffe,

Posted on 03/20/2013 6:20:51 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Edited on 03/20/2013 6:24:07 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

This is what the end of a decade of war looked like in Oklahoma a few weeks ago: ex-soldiers in cheap new business suits; human resources managers with salesman smiles and stacks of glossy fliers; a former Marine speaking to a television news crew about the “tough times” and “nightmares” he has had since coming home.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobs; sequestration; unemployment; veterans
Related:

More than two out of five of the approximately 800,000 Department of Defense employees facing furloughs are veterans

1 posted on 03/20/2013 6:20:51 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Sounds like we need less department of defense and more private sector.


3 posted on 03/20/2013 6:27:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SkyPilot
"They are weighing whether they can really afford to take on one more employee in this uncertain economy, whether it makes sense to wait just a few more months.

Yep. Bush's fault for sure.

I shouldn't be, but I continue to be amazed at the capacity of the main stream media to deflect and defer any blame for this miserable state of affairs on the party that controls one of the two houses of Congress and the White Hut,

Their hypocricy is beyond nauseating and well into criminal.

4 posted on 03/20/2013 6:27:59 AM PDT by SargeK
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We have no shame, and have become a nation of thieves.


5 posted on 03/20/2013 6:28:22 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SkyPilot
There are some similarities with Jimmy Malaise Carter. Lots of Viet Nam Veterans came home to find few jobs and a hostile population that would not give a vet a job. Carter had wrecked the economy with his voodoo economics. Gas prices were rising daily and gas shortages were common. Few vets wanted to work for the Government but with veterans preference we swallowed our pride and worked for the evil empire.
6 posted on 03/20/2013 6:45:41 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SkyPilot

These are usually fit young men. They should try nearby North Dakota for energy related jobs. Or Texas. Sometimes you have to move to where the jobs are.


7 posted on 03/20/2013 7:00:32 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: mountainlion

Not enough Ross Perots out there...Perot gave preference to Vietnam War vets when he was running EDS.


8 posted on 03/20/2013 7:01:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cripplecreek
Sounds like we need less department of defense and more private sector.

I am with you - free enterprise is the system that pays the freight for Democracy.

However, what our government is doing right now (and that includes our Republican masters) is crazy.

The Defense industry, which could employ tens of thousands of these veterans, is getting decimated right now because of Sequestration. The military has to pay 50 cents on every dollar of cuts, despite being 18% of the budget. Entitlement spending is not touched during Sequestration.

Defense spending for private companies was down 22% last quarter (the biggest drop in decades), and that was the main driver for the overall economy going into negative territory with a minus 0.1% growth report.

One more of those and we will be officially in another Recession. I don't think we ever recovered from the last one (and statistics these days are manipulated for political reasons), however - we are probably headed into Recession territory again.

Moreover, with the DoD alone furloughing about 750,000 this week, almost half of those are veterans.

Even worse:

Sequestration Puts 2.14 Million Total Jobs at Risk

I am not certain the job losses will be 2 million, but they are going to be substantial, and they have already started.

Workers Lose Jobs As Pink Slips Go Out Due To Sequestration

But - Food Stamps and Temporary Assist to Need Families (Ca$h Welfare) are not touched one iota with Sequestration.

Mind you, the Republicans agreed to all of this with the 2011 Budget Control Act. Boehner bragged he got "98% of what I wanted" with that agreement that has brought us Sequestration which punishes the military, and now veterans, the most.

This is immoral.

It is time for our Republican leaders to stop crowing about how Sequestration is a "victory" and start doing something about it.

9 posted on 03/20/2013 7:06:55 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: dfwgator
I lived close to the republic of Boulder so things were quite liberal. John the traitor Kerry got my community calling all military “Baby Killers” but now they have done an about face and are supporting the Killing of 5,000 a day through abortions.

I once again feel betrayed and abused by this oppressive government.

11 posted on 03/20/2013 7:21:47 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SkyPilot
My hope is with Jesus and Sarah Palin.
12 posted on 03/20/2013 7:23:16 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SkyPilot
Note to Mods - this photo link is not from the WP server.

It was taken by Michel du Cille of The Washington Post.

13 posted on 03/20/2013 7:46:53 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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Got it. Sorry about that - the rules on photos are less clear to me. Thanks.


14 posted on 03/20/2013 10:51:53 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: mountainlion
My hope is with Jesus and Sarah Palin.

And in that order!

15 posted on 03/20/2013 10:57:51 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: mountainlion

You are thinking of the Nixon recession of 1973 to 1975, that is when I left the Army.

That was at the end of the Vietnam war and a time of fuel shortages and meat shortages, and a bad recession.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973%E2%80%9375_recession


16 posted on 03/20/2013 12:30:29 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnÂ’t for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: ansel12
Carter beat nixon to a recession. Carter really messed things up. I got out in 69. Carter shut down steel mills and constriction industry. I remember the Carter malaise. My degree was in Construction Management but there was no Construction industry.
17 posted on 03/20/2013 12:42:20 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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You got out in 1969, the year that Nixon took office, Carter took office in 1977, years after the Vietnam withdrawal and even the formal end of the war.

I don’t know how you think that the Vietnam vets were leaving the military in 1977 instead of 1973 and 1974.


18 posted on 03/20/2013 1:04:10 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnÂ’t for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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I don’t know how you think that the Vietnam vets were leaving the military in 1977 instead of 1973 and 1974.

We are miscommunication here somewhere. I suppose some Viet Nam vets were leaving the military well into the 90’s, many were still looking for good jobs into the 80’s, 90’s. I remember looking for a good job through the 70’s and well into the 80’s.

19 posted on 03/20/2013 1:22:55 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Lots of Viet Nam Veterans came home to find few jobs and a hostile population that would not give a vet a job. Carter had wrecked the economy with his voodoo economics. Gas prices were rising daily and gas shortages were common. Few vets wanted to work for the Government but with veterans preference we swallowed our pride and worked for the evil empire.

They weren't coming home from Vietnam in the 1990s or even in 1977 and 1979.

Why isn't the recession of 1973 to 1975 the most relevant to your post?

20 posted on 03/20/2013 1:50:33 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnÂ’t for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: mountainlion
Lots of Viet Nam Veterans came home to find few jobs and a hostile population that would not give a vet a job. Carter had wrecked the economy with his voodoo economics. Gas prices were rising daily and gas shortages were common. Few vets wanted to work for the Government but with veterans preference we swallowed our pride and worked for the evil empire.

They weren't coming home from Vietnam in the 1990s or even in 1977 and 1979.

Why isn't the recession of 1973 to 1975 the most relevant to your post?

21 posted on 03/20/2013 1:50:33 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnÂ’t for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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Why isn’t the recession of 1973 to 1975 the most relevant to your post?

I don’t know. Probably going to school then and looking for a job after 79. For all I can remember I may have been drunk.


22 posted on 03/20/2013 2:39:25 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Carter killed the auto industry too, but some of that was self-inflicted, some of that was the result of bad Nixon-Ford policies. But I remember the Carter malaise quite well.

I commuted from Indy to Kokomo every day in the summer of 1980 to work a commercial construction job. We were the only construction job in Kokomo that summer. Every day, laid off auto workers would come by looking for any type of work and got turned away. The local electricians on the job worked as slow as they could; they knew when that job was done, there wasn’t another one waiting.

The locals didn’t care much for us Indy folk being there taking jobs they thought they should have.


23 posted on 03/21/2013 8:10:45 AM PDT by henkster (I have one more cow than my neighbor. I am a kulak.)
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To: mountainlion

Viet Nam was over before Carter became president. Veterans were having a hard time getting jobs but it was before Carter. I don’t think Ford’s W.I.N. buttons were helping. And it did get much worse after Carter took over. Boy, was it tough!


24 posted on 03/22/2013 1:38:36 AM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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I don’t think Ford’s W.I.N. buttons were helping. People where I lived were turning them upside down and saying Not In My time...
25 posted on 03/22/2013 2:26:44 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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I heard it called “No Immediate Miracle”. Ford also had stickers stuck on federal building walls, including colleges, right next to thermostats advising what tempature to set the thing. I think it was 70 in the winter and 80 in the summer. Someone figured out it was going to cost a lot more to remove the stickers from the walls than they could save in 20 years on utility bills.

There have been some very smart men who served in the white house. Ford wasn’t one of them. And he was followed by another one.


26 posted on 03/22/2013 3:41:30 AM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Terry Mross
I think Ford was supposed to hold the office until Rockefeller could get situated, then resign. (I also think Betty jacked him up over that, and told him to stay put). Then Rockefeller seized up (I heard three different activity/place/other person versions of that on the radio before they settled on the story). and those plans went out the window, for whoever made them.

Otherwise, we'd have had the current mess a decade or two earlier.

27 posted on 03/22/2013 5:00:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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