Skip to comments.Right blasts RNC 'autopsy' as power grab
Posted on 03/18/2013 5:04:54 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
Right blasts RNC 'autopsy' as power grab By: Jonathan Martin and Maggie Haberman March 18, 2013 12:21 PM EDT
The GOPs prescription to cure the ills that helped bring on yet another disastrous presidential cycle would revamp its presidential nominating rules in ways to benefit well-funded candidates and hamper insurgents - a move that quickly heated up the already smoldering feud between the Republican establishment and the tea party-inspired base.
Tucked in near the end of the 97-page report, formally known as The Growth and Opportunity Project, are less than four pages that amount to a political bombshell: the five-member panel urges halving the number of presidential primary debates in 2016 from 2012, creating a regional primary cluster after the traditional early states and holding primaries rather than caucuses or conventions.
Each of those steps would benefit a deep-pocketed candidate in the mold of Mitt Romney. That is, someone who doesnt need the benefit of televised debates to get attention because he or she can afford TV ads; has the cash to air commercials and do other forms of voter contact in multiple big states at one time; and has more appeal with a broader swath of voters than the sort of ideologically-driven activists who typically attend caucuses and conventions.
The recommendations are also a nod to the partys donor class. Several donors bluntly told RNC Chair Reince Priebus at meetings right after the election that they wanted Iowa, with its more conservative base, to have less of a role in the process.
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They need to have about 3 debates.
NONE with Democrats flacks masquerading as moderators.
Isn’t it sad when not only do you feel like an insurgent in your own country, but you actually are one in your own party?
Yep, kicking Conservatives out to the curb.
I no longer have a party. They are no different than the dems. When have they ever stood up to Obama?
What utter horse crap. The GOP has decided that they need to be Democrat Lite in order to get power. Is there any further proof needed that we need to kill the GOP once and for all.
Good Lord, please no more Bushes. I am sick to death of the RINO establishment.
screw them all......we want who WE want
their money don’t mean anything unless we vote for them
More than several voters will bluntly tell the business as usual GOP that if they embrace suicide, that's fine with them. The conservative base is longer lasting and ultimately much more powerful than the "business as usual" donors. Want to make a clear distinction and a real choice? Listen to the conservative base.
Ignore them at your peril!
The problem is the GOP isn’t going to die quickly.
And in the decade or so of coming infighting, I see Dems accomplishing nationally what they’ve done in California - permanent supermajority status.
I haven't needed further proof for years. In any case, they are doing a fantastic job of killing themsekves. I say let them, and show me an alternative.
Then they need to be taken over from the inside.
Wow...they roll over and play “Spineless P*ssies” so well, don’t they???
Do you have something better then the GOP?
Its time to take the GOP back, not kill it off.
Winner take all states distorts the strength of a candidate.
I would make one simple change that puts the primary on a par with the national election:
Every congressional district would have 1 delegate and every state would have 2. Winners of congressional districts would take that district only. (If one wants more delegates for a bigger party, then make make each district X and each state 2X.) Delegates would be pledged to the candidate winning their district barring late emergencies. There will be no super-delegates.
Any leading candidate will only be the automatic nominee if they secure 50% of the vote prior to the convention. Otherwise, the delegates at the convention will vote until one candidate has 50%, with the first round of voting narrowing the field down to two candidates unless one achieves 50% for a win.
Like I said, take it over from the inside.
“This is nothing but a platform for Jeb Bush.”
Oh, God. I hope not. Hillary will wipe the floor with him. Heck, *Biden* would wipe the floor with him.
After W did so much to wreck the party, why would the GOP leaders go anywhere near his gene pool for at least another generation or two?
None of these top-down tactics from RINOs - or even conservatives for that matter - mean much without good candidates. Dole, McCain and Romney lost not just because they were RINOs. They lost because they were duds and could not persuade enough people to rally behind them. A huge percentage out there don’t know the difference between a RINO, DINO or CINO. But they know a lousy used car salesman when they see it. In fact I would go further and say our side needs more than great candidates. We need extraordinary candidates just to offset Santa Claus on the other side.
Here we go again, picking our candidate for us. Not happening again. I refuse to vote for another Progressive Republican. They are all the same Progressives, doesn’t matter if they are Dems or Repubs. a progressive wants the same thing.
Jeb Bush is a Progressive and Globalist.
I am not a Globalist and will not vote that way again. Go to Hell Republicans!
I will forever hold the RNC in contempt over the way they’ve treated Sarah Palin.
Autopsy? Sounds more like a Suicide Note....
Good luck to the GOP in replacing their conservative base with Illegal Aliens and Homosexuals.
1 (representative) vote per county... winner of the county votes gets the state’s votes.
One of the problems is candidates without broad support are winning national primaries by virtue of winner-take-all in a state.
The should simply win delegates that they’ve won and not win delegates that they’ve not won.
In that case, leave out the State’s vote and tally up the counties... even for the counties that commit fraud, the true majority should be apparent ;)
(or even the proper percentage of the delegates from the county elections to pass on).
This is typical Establishment BS.
Basically, they want Social Conservatives and Christian Conservatives to sit down and shut up.
These nimrods in DC really believe that if we “message” that we are really tolerant of illegals, gays, and all minority groups, we can win elections.
LOL...Now, go back and look at the Democrat rhetoric during the campaign.
“GOP is intolerant of illegals, gays and all minorities”
So, in the recent trend of choosing Dem Lite candidates, now we will listen to Dem pollsters and strategists, and PR propaganda - to choose our strategies.
The Establishment people are so STUPID !
The Dems will win the House.
And when you think your Obama Nightmare is over in 4 years...we will get Hillary for 8 more.
NO OPEN PRIMARIES. PERIOD.
As Nancy Reagan used to say, “Just say, ‘No!’”
So, to Mr Reince, I say, “No!”
To Mr Rove, I say, “No!”
To this idiotic “report,” I say, “No!”
I think I am not alone in these sentiments....
Let me get this straight,...”Less debates?” Let me say that again, “LESS debates?”
They MUST be planning to run either Jeb or Mitt, as neither is worth sh*t in a debate.
To think that back in the days of the Lincoln-Douglas debates, the encounters would run something like THREE HOURS, to call for less debates is tantamount to saying, “The people be damned! We consultants know what is good for you. Just shut up and vote!”
RINO manure. This what the gaggle of interior decorator activists in the Log Cabin prop up as “leadership”.
Soon they’ll probably be wearing hot pants to further seduce the delusional Useful Idiots who worship their own STD infested youthful imagery.
Nixon: Jeeezus Christ.
Yes. I agree.
If you’re not part of the party, then you shouldn’t be voting on its decisions.
The republican party is a private organization. It should find a way to run a primary without costing taxpayers the price of opening voting precincts on the taxpayer dime.
Also, because it’s a PO, it should police false information put out by any of its candidates about another of its candidates.
This is because it would be ALL WITHIN THE PRIVATE ORGANIZATION.
In the general election, it would be competition in the free market of ideas.
That's okay. If they treat folks like they don't need their vote, they won't get it. They're going to market themselves into another disaster.
No, my friend. WE are the Grand Old Party - not these sell-outs, traitors, and flim-flam crony capitalists who've usurped the party from us.
It's our party. We need to throw THEM out.
"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all."
-- President Ronald Reagan
Was the 97 page Autopsy of the Dead Corpse subtitled: “ How to lose again to Democrats without even trying?”
This is our ground. We fought for it. We've held it. Sadly, we've allowed a class of parasites and usurpers to gradually seize control of America's party. Now it's time we cleaned them out.
Thanks for the posting. I only had suppress hurling 3 times. To be fair, all I read was the table of contents.
Republicans want to cut back on debates, just when we finally have a real first-rate debater on our side. Did you see Ted Cruz’s presentation at CPAC? Hiding behind the podium, frequently glancing at notes, reading from the teleprompters, constantly reaching for the water glass? I cannot wait to see this man in a Presidential debate, I think he is going to kick butt and show some Republicans how it can and should be done. NOT a time to be cutting back on debates when we have an up and coming weapon like Ted Cruz in the wings.
When do we get to vote out Democrat Party Chairman Priebus?
Arpaio for Chairman of the Republican National Committee!
I’ll stand with the Rand/Cruz/Palin wing of the party. If there is no room for the Tea Party wing and the GOP pushes the Bushes, we’ll just have to formally organize the Tea Party and render the GOP as irrelevant as the Whig party.
I predicted before the 2012 election that if Romney lost the rinos in Washington would become the second half of the democrat party because that would be the only way they could survive the backlash against them.
I wish I was wrong but it sure doesn’t appear that way.
I’ve been very quiet lately because I’m tired of the arguing and back stabbing that got us in this position and I’ve truly been hoping that a CONSERVATIVE party would emerge and give us something to vote for.
So far, I have nobody to cheer for.
I just throw away their mailings and ignore their calls anymore. If I like a candidate I send them money directly.
But that doesn't mean big donors might not take a chance on conservative primary candidates if we field good ones. That has been the strategy of the Club for Growth and the Tea Party and both have had electoral success. Iowa is an anomaly with its caucuses, which distort the whole race for weeks or months. It should be relegated to a minor run o' the mill status just because it is atypical and predicts nothing..
Here’s the only autopsy really needed and one the GOP will never come to grips with. If you wish to win elections as Republicans, don’t run RINOs.
Romney’s candidacy was dead on arrival. Just like McCain’s.
We don’t need an autopsy or a rebranding. We simply need to get back to the basics. God, country, constitution, life, family, liberty, freedom. Forget about pandering to various groups and sub classes. Fight for the constitution, the rule of law, equal treatment under the law, liberty, justice, freedom and opportunity for all.
That’s okay. If they treat folks like they don’t need their vote, they won’t get it. They’re going to market themselves into another disaster.
Yep. 2014 is shaping up to be another massacre for the GOP. A lot of governors are already tacking left because they realize that conservatives will be staying home in 2014.
Govs likely to be targeted by the dem machine like Scott, Corbett, Kasich, Walker, Martinez, etc. are in deep trouble.
nicely played, poorly thought out....
We’ll fund our own candidates..
Once, Twice, Three times a Bushie
Since the beginning of the country, the elite has sought to control government by such means. But ere is an iron law of society: monopolies always break down because elites divide into factions, and the leader who can recruit enough none-elite supporters will win elections. The secret is organization. Donors love an organized candidate, and if he is articulate they will gravitate to him. I saw how Ted Cruz won. If Rick Santorum had had half of his ability, he would with his drive have won the nomination.Even regional primaries are not insurmountable obstacles if the candidate can press enough flesh.
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