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Republican senator reverses his opposition to gay marriage after his 21-year-old son comes out
Daily Mail ^ | March 15, 2013 | Katie Davies

Posted on 03/15/2013 5:04:58 AM PDT by Pinkbell

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His belief in traditional marriage could never have been on solid ground if he changed just because his son came out. He tries to use the Bible to justify this, and the Bible makes it's teachings on same sex relationships clear. If he was following the Bible, he would love his son, but he wouldn't support his lifestyle and wouldn't want to redefine marriage. This does not go over with me as I voted for him believing he was conservative on social issues.
1 posted on 03/15/2013 5:04:58 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

In this day and age the Prodigal Son returns not in repentance but in sin.


2 posted on 03/15/2013 5:10:43 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Pinkbell

This is why he decided not to throw his hat in the primary ring last year.


3 posted on 03/15/2013 5:12:17 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Pinkbell

This deal of “coming out” that has become so popular with these kids in the past few years is, I think, suspect. In this area, at one of the high schools, the kids suddenly started “coming out” in droves, embracing and kissing in the hallways, having “sex” in the bathroom stalls (how romantic!) I expect some kids are in the future going to be embarrassed at their recent behavior; because even logical statistical numbers would have precluded there being that huge a number of “gay” kids in any one given place at one time. A fad.


4 posted on 03/15/2013 5:12:20 AM PDT by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: Pinkbell

So he’s just another hypocrite?


5 posted on 03/15/2013 5:12:48 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Pinkbell

It’s always the ones with homosexuals in the family that support counterfeit marriage.


6 posted on 03/15/2013 5:13:21 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: Pinkbell
So true regarding his reversal. This shows that his previous thinking was a mere political "position" rather than a "principle". Pope Francis has spoken about how the Church and the Bible view this entire manufactured by liberals 'same sex marriage' issue ...

"Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God," wrote Cardinal Bergoglio in a letter sent to the monasteries of Buenos Aires. "We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God."

7 posted on 03/15/2013 5:17:01 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Pinkbell

So if he caught he effing the family dog would he drop his opposition to beastiality?


8 posted on 03/15/2013 5:21:27 AM PDT by BO Stinkss ( I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees)
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To: Pinkbell

Even Bart Stupak didn’t change his conservative (for a democrat) position on guns when his son killed himself.


9 posted on 03/15/2013 5:22:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Pinkbell
He, as nearly ALL politicians today, have no Principe....they move to assure their re-Election only, and do NOT represent any values other than their own interests.

Holding Office has become only a place to sit while buying votes to KEEP that Office.

10 posted on 03/15/2013 5:24:48 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Pinkbell
Portman should change affiliation to the anti-God Party (aka DemocRAT). He is a lying certified disciple of Saran!
11 posted on 03/15/2013 5:24:56 AM PDT by texican01
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To: BO Stinkss
Good point!
12 posted on 03/15/2013 5:25:07 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Pinkbell

He can’t be very solid on much of anything if he can’t reason his way through things like this with greater clarity than he has exhibited.

This inability to think things through is characteristic of the majority of the population today. They will blindly follow the Demagogue into totalitarianism.


13 posted on 03/15/2013 5:25:28 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: traditional1

Principe=Principle. (More coffee needed here)


14 posted on 03/15/2013 5:25:46 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Pinkbell

The reason people are sick of the GOP is because they have no moral compass.

They have no convictions. They are not trustworthy.

Had he not thought of the parents of gay children, before he made a stand?

In what , was his opinion of gay marriage based, in the first place?

More “good for me, but not for thee”.


15 posted on 03/15/2013 5:26:36 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: Pinkbell

I swear these people are in on some giant conspiracy to destroy America. The dam is breaking and there is no stopping it.


16 posted on 03/15/2013 5:27:31 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Houghton M.

The media will now celebrate him as a hero, and that will only reaffirm his position.


17 posted on 03/15/2013 5:28:46 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Truth2012
Had he not thought of the parents of gay children, before he made a stand?

In what , was his opinion of gay marriage based, in the first place? More “good for me, but not for thee”.

Exactly.

18 posted on 03/15/2013 5:30:25 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Hostage

This is insane!
It’s like saying I’ve changed my position on cancer since I found out my brother has it.
Damn it when will people wake up!
He needs to say “son, I love you and always will, but I will not approve of activity that God Almighty has condemned.”


19 posted on 03/15/2013 5:32:13 AM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: texican01; al baby; Jim Robinson

:: He is a lying certified disciple of Saran! ::

Looks like another malaprop headed for history at FR!


20 posted on 03/15/2013 5:32:28 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Twinkie

It’s called “GUG”: Gay Until Graduation.


21 posted on 03/15/2013 5:35:17 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: texican01
That Saran is one evil guy. ;)


22 posted on 03/15/2013 5:37:03 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

What is Portman’s voting record? His conservative grade?

He may be expressing his personal conversion, but won’t do harm on the senate floor.

/not defending this guy


23 posted on 03/15/2013 5:38:03 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Pinkbell

Just sent another email to the Republican Senator comm.
RNC and my home state party.

These scumbags deserve to hear from all of you!


24 posted on 03/15/2013 5:40:04 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Pinkbell

You still did the right thing in voting for Portman over the Democrat in the general but you hit the nail on the head about how Portman is wrong in changing his mind about gay “marriage”. Real marriage was defined by God and there is nothing we can do to change it. All the rest is just pretending.


25 posted on 03/15/2013 5:41:16 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (The perfect is the enemy of the good..............Voltaire)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Saran wrap is of the devil
26 posted on 03/15/2013 5:42:55 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Party - SelfGovernment.US)
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To: Pinkbell

I guess we now know why he didn’t get the nod for Veep.


27 posted on 03/15/2013 5:43:05 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Pinkbell

this is the result of recruiting.

Portman should resign if he finds this personal situation compromises his principles so easily.

He should have kicked his son out.


28 posted on 03/15/2013 5:46:18 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Pinkbell
'The overriding message of love and compassion that I take from the Bible, and certainly the Golden Rule, and the fact that I believe we are all created by our maker, that has all influenced me in terms of my change on this issue.'

If you jump off an eighty foot cliff, the rocks aren't going care what you believe about gravity.

29 posted on 03/15/2013 5:46:59 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Party - SelfGovernment.US)
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To: USAF80

or he always did and this “comming out” story is cover for being caught in a political damaging way.

Portman is finished.


30 posted on 03/15/2013 5:47:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Truth2012

If Portmans son announced an inclination towards young children or animals, would Portman change his views on those morals as well to make his son happy?

His son needs professional help.


31 posted on 03/15/2013 5:48:56 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: EternalVigilance

“The overriding message of love and compassion that I take from the Bible”.......

and yet always miss the part about “Go and sin no more”


32 posted on 03/15/2013 5:50:01 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: EternalVigilance

This is similar to the stupid-assed statement
“a loving God wouldn’t condemn anyone to hell”.

Sounds good for someone thinking on the level of a three year old.

But logic refutes this in about 4 seconds with a half dozen refuting statements.


33 posted on 03/15/2013 5:50:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Pinkbell

He should listen to gay people who finally discover they are AGAINST gay marriage.

Like this story: http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/kids-need-a-mom-and-dad-says-openly-gay-adoptive-parent


34 posted on 03/15/2013 5:51:27 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

you don’t need religion to know this is just wrong.

Portman can no longer be trusted.

i am betting this comming out is a fake. Portman knew and this capitulation is blackmail avoidance of some kind.

His son is not a part of society.

Portman should have just cut the hedonist adult off, no money, no school, no roof, no car etc. Just goodby and never call.


35 posted on 03/15/2013 5:51:32 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Pinkbell

BINGO!! i KNEW it!!!! IDIOCY!!!!


36 posted on 03/15/2013 5:55:24 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Pinkbell

Senator Portman is a major disappointment.

I’ve no doubt this was staged so he can get into the pockets of the pro-gay campaign contributors and prepare himself for a run at either the presidency or vice-presidency.

He is betting that the GOP-E will retain control of the GOP.

Considering that Romney accomplished 2 things other than running a campaign against Barack Obama, it is notable to review his two accomplishments:

1. He savaged conservative opponents with less money

2. He gained the right to control the convention AT WHICH he changed the delegate and other rules to maintain the power of the GOP-E for the foreseeable future.

IOW, Portman has read the tea leaves and thinks they are all coming up pink.


37 posted on 03/15/2013 5:55:36 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Pinkbell

religion only based opposition can’t be supported before the law.

logic and reason dictates the opposition to the law.

Portman should have grown a pair and told the son he was wrong and guided him to treatment or shunning. his choice.

no compromise.

Portman just demonstrats he is part of the old, crusty, and moss grown DC. He should resign.


38 posted on 03/15/2013 5:56:18 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: USAF80

Basically it’s ONLY those with HOMOS in their families that support this crap! Satan is VERY happy.


39 posted on 03/15/2013 5:56:35 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Pinkbell

So, would he become pro-drug use if his son had come out as a heroin addict? Pro-polygamy if his son had revealed that he wanted to marry three wives?


40 posted on 03/15/2013 5:56:54 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Truth/Lies; Liberty/Tyranny--WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??)
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To: xzins

Portman was blackmailed?


41 posted on 03/15/2013 5:57:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Nope. He was my congressman from this overwhelmingly conservative Ohio 2nd district.

He caved.


42 posted on 03/15/2013 5:58:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: EternalVigilance

What is that smell of sulfur? It is the Saran wrap as it is the devil!


43 posted on 03/15/2013 5:58:53 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

how much money is involved?


44 posted on 03/15/2013 5:59:34 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Going by his claim that his son is gay, I don’t believe he needs to cut him off. He can still love his son and be in life, but he doesn’t have to agree with his lifestyle or support redefining marriage. If it was my child (I have no children), I’d still love my child and be there for him/her, I just wouldn’t support his/her lifestyle because it goes against my faith (Catholic).

I voted for Portman thinking he supported traditional marriage, so this is disappointing to me.


45 posted on 03/15/2013 5:59:50 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Sir Napsalot
"He may be expressing his personal conversion, but won’t do harm on the senate floor."

The article quotes Portman:

'The overriding message of love and compassion that I take from the Bible, and certainly the Golden Rule, and the fact that I believe we are all created by our maker, that has all influenced me in terms of my change on this issue.'

He added that he believed opening marriage up to homosexual couples 'strengthens the institution' and he realized his son's sexuality 'wasn't a choice'.

He announced this as a biblical and a political conviction. The article states further that this took place TWO YEARS AGO, at which time he secretly discussed the issue with other elite Republicans - while withholding it from the public/voters.

It was during that 2-years of concealment that he and the elite Republicans sought to sneak him in as the GOP Presidential candidate!

46 posted on 03/15/2013 6:01:03 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Pinkbell

Portmann is dead to me. He is nothing but a 5th columnist within the GOP.


47 posted on 03/15/2013 6:03:08 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Pinkbell

if the son is recalcetrant, he should be treated as if he has just died and shunned from the family.

Portman would have had to “man up” for that.

This is 100% digusting for portman to capitulate to emotional blackmail at the least. Or he knew he was going to capitulate all along at the worst.

There is no logical reason for portman to stay. He should resign.


48 posted on 03/15/2013 6:03:21 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Pinkbell
He added that he believed opening marriage up to homosexual couples 'strengthens the institution'

Sounds like he "evolved" on the issue. Actually, sounds more like he saw polling data in Ohio that said homo "marriage" is all the rage.

49 posted on 03/15/2013 6:03:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: BO Stinkss

Excellent point! If you don’t mind, I am going to steal that line.


50 posted on 03/15/2013 6:04:50 AM PDT by ohioman
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