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Senators Hush-Hush as They Craft Immigration Bill
Associated Press ^ | Mar 9, 2013 8:21 PM EST | Erica Werner

Posted on 03/10/2013 10:31:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai

The eight senators meet in private several times a week, alternating between Sen. John McCain’s and Sen. Charles Schumer’s offices. They sit in arm chairs arranged in a circle and sip water or soft drinks as they debate temporary workers and border security. In a capital riven by partisanship and gridlock, they are determined to be the exception and actually get something done.

This is immigration reform’s “Gang of Eight.” With them lies the best hope in years for overhauling the nation’s byzantine immigration laws—and they know it. …

The legislation the group is working on would secure the border; provide a pathway to citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants already in the country, contingent on a secure border first; crack down on employers; and improve legal immigration. Senators have indicated some consensus on elements related to border security and the path to citizenship. They are struggling on the question of legal immigration and future workers, and are trading proposals with leaders of the AFL-CIO and Chamber of Commerce to try to get a deal. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnestypimps; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; marcorubio; mccain; mcshame; rino; schumer

1 posted on 03/10/2013 10:31:34 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

TRANSLATION: “We need more Democrat voters!!!”


2 posted on 03/10/2013 10:32:54 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Olog-hai
America needs more poverty! Pass "immigration reform!"

Sarc/

3 posted on 03/10/2013 10:33:07 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Progressive, Marxist liberals do not evolve, they morph into fascists.)
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To: Olog-hai

Eight fellow travelers on the road to perdition.


4 posted on 03/10/2013 10:35:13 AM PDT by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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To: Olog-hai

The Gang(arine) of Ate in a circle jerk?


5 posted on 03/10/2013 10:35:54 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Olog-hai
The eight senators meet in private several times a week, alternating between Sen. John McCain’s and Sen. Charles Schumer’s offices.

Not a good sign.

6 posted on 03/10/2013 10:36:12 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Olog-hai

This ‘gang’ includes RUBIO! He is dead meat as far as any vote from me for any national office in my book.

I don’t pander to mexican illegals, nor do I respond affirmatively to appeasement, intimidation or threats.

We won’t get mexican illegals’ votes because we relent. They are here to steal, pillage and download entitlement children, nor will they assimilate. GO HOME!!!!


7 posted on 03/10/2013 10:36:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

The rush to surrender American sovereignty to Mexico.


8 posted on 03/10/2013 10:43:27 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Gaffer

Well said.


9 posted on 03/10/2013 10:44:17 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Olog-hai

Determined to get something done.

This is always code speak for giving the democrats everything they demand.
Having McCain on the list guarantees it.


10 posted on 03/10/2013 10:45:47 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Olog-hai

Typically when they are making plans to screw their constituents and citizens, they like to do it behind closed doors. It makes for less issues.

By the way, Rubio is a fraud. If it took you (not Olog in particular) this long to figure it out, you haven’t been paying attention. A true conservative and friend of the people doesn’t participate in back room “Gang of...” meetings.


11 posted on 03/10/2013 10:48:29 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Gaffer

Rubio needs to get far away from John McCain, as does Sarah Palin. On a better note I don’t think we need to worry about Ted Cruz or Rand Paul smooching McCain’s butt any time soon. Some of our best people allow association with John McCain to drag them down.


12 posted on 03/10/2013 10:52:32 AM PDT by Reddon
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To: Reddon

I don’t give a crapwad that Rubio is of hispanic origin, nor where his parents come from. He has appeared to be conservative in his past statements, BUT his foray into appeasement of illegals and Americans of Hispanic origin with respect to ‘doing anything’ with respect to illegals except arresting and deporting them is a NO GO in my book

It makes me wonder about his other ‘conservative’ statements and makes me believe he’s nothing but another effing power-grubbing politician.


13 posted on 03/10/2013 10:56:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

Doing this behind our backs...nice way of representing we the people...

Before the problem can begin to be fixed it would require honesty to the American people about the issues with illegals. As long as we have the fairy tale that they are all upstanding citizens who came here to work hard there is no honesty and can be no solution.

I imagine about the time this group gets ready to unveil their genius plan stories will be coming out of all the crimes the newly released from prison illegals are committing. That will be another thing they need to hide.


14 posted on 03/10/2013 10:57:25 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Olog-hai

What was “byzantine” was the 1965 Immigration Act that literally demolished our country. The illiterates who knew nothing about the Constitution and cared only about handouts started overwhelming the system.


15 posted on 03/10/2013 11:09:16 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Olog-hai

bttt


16 posted on 03/10/2013 11:10:00 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Gaffer

Strange how many of them seem to say the right things, then, shortly after winning, unleash the demons they really are.


17 posted on 03/10/2013 11:10:34 AM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Gaffer
I will support any Senator who does a filibuster against this upcoming amnesty.

Rubio will support any measure for amnesty, I expect Rand Paul to do the same.

18 posted on 03/10/2013 11:12:52 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Olog-hai

The question of legal immigration and future workers, and are trading proposals with leaders of the *AFL-CIO* and Chamber of Commerce to try to get a deal.

Any qusetions on who owns the senate?.


19 posted on 03/10/2013 11:23:44 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Olog-hai

Total bullcrap. There is nothing “Byzantine” about not allowing illegals from other countries.


20 posted on 03/10/2013 11:24:23 AM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: AuntB; SoConPubbie; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; sickoflibs; HiJinx; Pelham; Grampa Dave; ...

PING


21 posted on 03/10/2013 11:29:18 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All
ALL OF THIS IS ANNOYING AND AMPLE REASON FOR DITCHING AMNESTY: (1) Illegals scoff at US laws, (2) ride the US gravy train w/ forged/stolen ID's; (3) are educated at our expense; (4) get sucked-up by vote crazed pols exchanging tax-paid freebies for votes.

THE AMNESTY GAME IS FIXED But what is really annoying is that illegals and pols are USING taxpayers in their offensive games to benefit themselves.---to diminsh and demean others --- to advance themselves on the backs of working class Americans.

Ohaha has played this game all his life----he sees illegals as the way to drive his legacy----the rest of us are all pawns in this evil game.

22 posted on 03/10/2013 11:30:25 AM PDT by Liz
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To: All
FINANCING OUR OWN DEMISE Illegals getting college-educated on our dime will get US govt jobs-----taking orders from their Third World masters to tear down the US govt....from within.

NO NO NO---no free college education for any Dreamer (or their parents) who support the America-hating LaRaza. Here's why.

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BLOOD-CURDLING LA RAZA STUDIES ONCE TAUGHT IN ARIZONA SCHOO La Raza Studies does not even try to sugar-coat its anti-America agenda and its bloodthirsty plans to kill off Americans : These shocking quotes are taken directly from A LA Raza textbook "Occupied America" (pg. 167): “Supporters would execute all white males over age 16,” (also known as the Plan of San Diego). LA Raza school textbook chapter from “Occupied America,” by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a speech given by university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and if worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him,” (pg. 323).

La Raza books also talk about the need for the govt of Mexico to re-take seven states in SW United States. so that the Southwest USA would become a Chicano nation. And judging by Ramos' activities---La Raza is establishing a beachhead in NJ.

YOU ARE PAYING FOR THIS In 2005 alone, $7.9 million in taxpayer funding was given to "La Raza charter schools" via the US Dept of Education grants. These charter schools stress Latino culture, the Spanish language, the re-conquest of the American Southwest, the establishment of the mythical Atzlan on US soil, and even Aztec math.

In addition to using taxpayer funds to enforce the teaching of murdering Americans and latino violence, the federally-funded La Raza organization operates 100 charter schools across America.

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The Dems tried to pump up San Antonio Mayor Juan Castro (his twin brother is a Congressman) at the 2012 convention by making him a Dem keynoter....but ol' Juan made a huge mistake when he genially introduced his mother---Maria “Rosie” Castro.

Mamasita Castro is a busy activist---a radical ethno-centric anti-assimilationist---a key figure in the activities of “La Raza."

JUST ANOTHER LATINO UNDERWORLD KINGPIN HOLDING PUBLIC OFFICE God only knows the how much govt money da Mayor and Mamasita La Raza are scamming. Every govt budget, agency, and bank account under San Antonio Mayor Juan Castro's control should be examined with a fine-tooth comb for govt fraud, racketeering, conspiracy, collusion, nepotism, secret LLC accounts, and money laundering, wire fraud, tax evasion, etc, etc, etc.

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SCHOOL BOARD NUT CASE Adelita Grijalva is the woman on the Arizona school board pimping La Raza indoctrination programs in Tuscon schools. Adelita is all up in arms about Raza Studies getting tossed via the AZ state legislature's action...she is the daughter of Raul Grijalva (D-AZ-7) who was just narrowly re-elected to our US Congress.

Raul Grijalva is one of Mexico’s most productive and loyal representatives in our Congress....aiding and abetting building a Third World on US soil.

Mmmmmmm....those father daughter chats must be interesting.

23 posted on 03/10/2013 11:31:58 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Gaffer

I fear Rubio was and is a Bush/Rove guy.

[snip]Mr. Rubio, who visited Israel and Jordan last month, is advocating a more muscular brand of global leadership and observers said it is significant that the Florida lawmaker tapped Jamie Fly, an adviser to President George W. Bush, as a counselor on foreign affairs and national security.
“What you are getting from Rand is really what he thinks,” said James Jay Carafano, vice president of defense policies studies at the Heritage Foundation. “What you are getting from Rubio is in part Jamie, who is more senior, more experienced, and who is more on the side of the offensive realists.”

http://www.libertypulse.com/


24 posted on 03/10/2013 11:54:12 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Olog-hai

LOL! Wish I could bring up the 2008 campaign threads where PLENTY on FR were praising McCain to the skies. Funny how adulation of power causes one to overlook the obvious.


25 posted on 03/10/2013 12:15:21 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Olog-hai
They are struggling on the question of legal immigration and future workers, and are trading proposals with leaders of the AFL-CIO and Chamber of Commerce to try to get a deal. …

Are they trying to get union jobs for these people?

26 posted on 03/10/2013 12:21:48 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Olog-hai

Let me break the suspense and annouonce the final plan. “Let em all stay”


27 posted on 03/10/2013 12:52:58 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve got a decent idea. I’d like my idea to be Bumped to the Top. I’d like to get ONE of those 8 guys in Immigration to give this idea at least a 5 second contemplation. In the days of the World War’s ...young MEN were given a Number and there was a DRAFT. According to the need, there were LOTTERIES, and people’s names were picked, and read. No JUDGE, no favorites, it was just a stroke of luck. Many in the USA are like Bible experienced, Prov. 16 v.33 talks about LOT”S being cast. That was the way the land was divided...that was the way King Saul was selected. I think that Mexicans need to understand that we all can’t have it BOTH ways. Someone needs to go back and learn a lesson that the USA is a country of laws. I say that there is a magic number of residences be given, everyone pay $200 to put their name on the list, and then pick up in random say 51 out of 100 people registered, Issue residence papers to those who WON, and order the others to go back. You have NO earthly idea the pandering, of the lusty whores that come in at the U.S. Consulate, and if the interviewer is a stud, and she has a mini skirt, she gets a free visa. It needs to be beyond the choice of a judge, and more in the lap of a lot cast. Then no one gets blamed but the lottery. Mexicans love lotteries.


28 posted on 03/10/2013 3:43:32 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Olog-hai

This means we’re going to get screwed royally, again. What the f is so hard about enforcing the laws already on the books?


29 posted on 03/10/2013 5:33:41 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: rovenstinez

I suggest putting a bounty of Mexican illegals, say a hundred a head. Two hundred and more if it’s an illegal with outstanding warrants.


30 posted on 03/10/2013 5:37:29 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Sounds real smart, putting a bounty on Mexicans in the USA, and then they put a bounty on Americans visiting Mexico. Freerepublic is a site where people bring intelligent ideas to the forum and not crap..... Try once more to fix the problem and give me a good solution that will fix it.


31 posted on 03/10/2013 5:45:11 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: rovenstinez

Any American dumb enough to travel to Mexico has put themselves in danger before they’ve even entered the country. And who the f are you to go mouthing off at me?


32 posted on 03/10/2013 6:02:37 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Living in Mexico is about as dangerous as living in Detroit or in Chicago. There are thousands of Americans living in Mexico and we’ll have a half a million spring breakers crowd the Mexican beaches. I’ve not had a lock on my door that works for 25 years. I’m an American and became a Mexican citizen. Love it.


33 posted on 03/10/2013 6:15:34 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Olog-hai
a pathway to citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants already in the country

Ten years ago they said it was 12 million.

Just do nothing and at this rate in another 110 years they'll be all gone!

Problem solved!

/s

34 posted on 03/10/2013 6:19:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Party - SelfGovernment.US)
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To: rovenstinez

Then what are you doing still hanging around here? And if Mexico is so freaking wonderful why are Mexicans so hell bent to get out of it?


35 posted on 03/10/2013 6:22:34 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Olog-hai

TRANSLATION: We the elites know best and if you knew what we were doing you’d riot.


36 posted on 03/10/2013 6:27:18 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: rovenstinez

Just wondering? How can you be an ‘American’ presumably of the USA and be a Mexican citizen? If you gave up being a USA citizen so be it and I guess being an ‘American’ can cover a lot of land in the Western hemisphere but in such a case you would have to have dual citizenship. Am I correct?


37 posted on 03/10/2013 11:06:47 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

Several countries offer now the option of dual citizenship. You don´t have to renounce one to get the other. A lot of loop holes for tax purposes


38 posted on 03/11/2013 6:57:21 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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