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N.C. sheriffs wage fight over gun records (newspaper editor quits)
Charlotte Observer ^ | 3/03/13 | Bruce Henderson, Cameron Steele

Posted on 03/04/2013 3:50:33 PM PST by Libloather

As North Carolina legislators move to close public access to firearm permits, some sheriffs are already refusing to hand over the records.

Following a public showdown with the sheriff in Cherokee County, a local newspaper editor quit last week after his records request – which was denied – made him the target of death threats. The county has the state’s highest rate of concealed-handgun permits.

In Gaston County, Sheriff Alan Cloninger responded Friday to a newspaper’s request for gun-permit records by withholding names and addresses of permit holders.

(Excerpt) Read more at charlotteobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; nc; newspaper; secondamendment
None of the newspaper's business.
1 posted on 03/04/2013 3:50:50 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Personally I’m glad to see these newspaper busybodies quoting their jobs in fear for their lives.


2 posted on 03/04/2013 3:53:58 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Libloather

Don’t worry about the editor - he’ll land a job working for Bloomberg, I’m sure.


3 posted on 03/04/2013 3:55:01 PM PST by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: Libloather

Amen. Every citizen has a right to privacy. In fact, the Supreme Court in Roe v Wade declared it so important that it’s an excuse for a woman to kill her unborn child.

There is no way that snoopy news people should be entitled to a list of private citizens exercising their constitutional right to bear arms.

Congress Critters on the other hand: Yeh we ought to know what hypocrites they are.


4 posted on 03/04/2013 3:58:18 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Libloather
made him the target of death threats.

He will move on to a rich career as a liberal martyr.

5 posted on 03/04/2013 4:00:26 PM PST by DManA
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To: Libloather

Why do they think readers want that info anyway? Shooting subscriber lists? Down with with our circulation, that’s the ticket.


6 posted on 03/04/2013 4:01:12 PM PST by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: Libloather
more than 200 of the 240,000 concealed-handgun permit holders at that time had been convicted of gun- or weapon-related felonies or misdemeanors in the previous five years.

200 in the entire state? Yeah ok. That's a little less than one tenth of one percent, do I have that about right? And I'd bet big money that the "or misdemeanors" is far more than half of that number, and that the examples of "gun-related felonies" are far less scary than they want it to sound.

7 posted on 03/04/2013 4:02:33 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Libloather
made him the target of death threats.

He will move on to a rich career as a liberal martyr.

8 posted on 03/04/2013 4:03:12 PM PST by DManA
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To: Libloather
If you read the article, there is NO further information regarding the alleged editor who allegedly quit on account of alleged threats. It's just hung out there in the lede with no supporting information.

The number of liberal weenies who claim they were threatened . . . but never file a police report and never come forward with the supposed emails or telephone calls . . . are legion.

Here's what I bet happened: the reporter started writing the story having heard from the LWE (Liberal Weenie Editor) that s/he (gender doubtful) quit on account of death threats. Wrote the lede, then started questioning the LWE and found that s/he wouldn't give details. Dropped that part of the story, but forgot to edit the lede.

Bet you the LWE didn't even really quit.

9 posted on 03/04/2013 4:10:24 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Libloather
the records let parents can learn whether a neighbor has guns before allowing their children to play there.

Then these hypothetical parents can come down to the courthouse in person and ask about these one or two hypothetical neighbors.

I wonder how many people had to sit in a room before they came up with this as their best example of why every record needs to be public at all times and in digital form.

10 posted on 03/04/2013 4:10:30 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy
How many ‘gun-or weapon-related felonies or misdemeanors’ were committed by people that did not have a concealed-handgun permit in the same 5 year period?
11 posted on 03/04/2013 4:11:05 PM PST by MagnoliaB
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To: Libloather
the records let parents can learn whether a neighbor has guns before allowing their children to play there.

Oh, you don't have any guns?

OK then, my little Johnny won't be allowed to come over to your house because you can't provide him any protection if that's ever needed.

12 posted on 03/04/2013 4:15:10 PM PST by Bob
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To: Libloather

“As North Carolina legislators move to close public access to firearm permits, some sheriffs are already refusing to hand over the records.”

Ha! That rules!

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“Following a public showdown with the sheriff in Cherokee County, a local newspaper editor quit last week after his records request – which was denied – made him the target of death threats.”

That doesn’t rule. While I don’t think it’s any of the newspaper’s darn business who carries and who does not, someone making death threats against the editor is NOT acceptable. That’s a chicken-spit way of dealing with things, and gives responsible 2nd Amendment supporters a black eye. Lock ‘em up.


13 posted on 03/04/2013 4:15:10 PM PST by DemforBush (When life gives you lemons, hoard them and make a killing in citrus futures!)
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To: jiggyboy

I don’t believe these lefties were terrified by “death threats”, they just got scared by a few irate phone calls when they found out not everybody agrees with their leftist agenda.

As for the claim that 1 in 12,000 permit holders has been convicted of a felony or misdeanor, compare that to the general population. Better yet, compare that to newspaper editors.


14 posted on 03/04/2013 4:15:30 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Libloather

This is another “crisis” fabricated by the White House to distract the public from the failing economy and wholesale corruption in Washington D.C.


15 posted on 03/04/2013 4:24:43 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: DemforBush

problem is, how do you know that the threats were not coming from the anti-gun crowd looking to provide that black eye


16 posted on 03/04/2013 4:45:12 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Libloather

“...a local newspaper editor quit last week after his records request – which was denied – made him the target of death threats.”


Translation: It was fired and ran like a rabid scorched dog but it’s really the victim of “right wing” death threats, so feel sorry for it. It’s a heroic soldier like Che, slaughtered on the battle field for the glorious cause of Utopia. It’s always the same story with the commies... They are predators who when rejected and stopped are victims of the “right wing.”

If the management was backing this little radical pervert, he’d be spending the paper’s money in court, suing the officials who refused to meet his treasonous demands. His boss would be losing what few subscriptions and advertisers the “newspaper” has. If I lived there, I would be hounding that paper for it’s far left wing propaganda every chance I got. They need to hire a conservative editor who has a brain and respects freedom.


17 posted on 03/04/2013 5:04:01 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Libloather
LOL...a bit of "Unintended Consequences" I'd say.
18 posted on 03/04/2013 5:08:31 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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“the records let parents can learn whether a neighbor has guns before allowing their children to play there.”

What ever happened to meeting the neighbors before deciding whether or not your child can play there?

Records don't identify all gun owners, just those who for some reason sought and obtained a CCW permit.
Do I have multiple lethal weapons in my home?
(beside my own body and every available physical object, including knives and poisons)

Who wants to know?
Why would you ask?

19 posted on 03/04/2013 5:17:36 PM PST by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: Bob
Its always 'for the sake of the children'...

I think its # 33 in the libtard playbook,
right after 'women & minorities hit hardest',
or maybe after 'seniors having to choose between medicine or food'...
20 posted on 03/04/2013 5:19:29 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: sarasmom

They may not want their tots to come to my abode because I may have guns. But they will be the first to come for pool swims in summer and there is electricity, gas, gasoline, chainsaws. knives, ropes and a myriad of other deadly items around the house.
Oh, I almost forgot the deadly golf clubs,ie, Martha Moxley. The PGA may be like the NRA.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/moxley/up_3.html


21 posted on 03/04/2013 5:34:17 PM PST by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: Libloather

I wish they’d exhibit the same ferocity at publishing the names and addresses of those receiving WIK, Welfare, and Foodstamp payments. Maybe it would make the newspaper edition to expensive to print.


22 posted on 03/04/2013 5:41:41 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Libloather

We are WINNING!


23 posted on 03/04/2013 6:13:35 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: jiggyboy
You quoted:

more than 200 of the 240,000 concealed-handgun permit holders at that time had been convicted of gun- or weapon-related felonies or misdemeanors in the previous five years.

Those "felons", probably very few of the total, should have all their rights restored after doing their time. If they are unsafe or still a threat, simply don't let them out.

24 posted on 03/04/2013 7:18:24 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: jiggyboy

Yet they don’t go after the rampant welfare fraud right under their noses! I’ll bet the percentage is well above 50% fraud and waste at the welfare dept!


25 posted on 03/04/2013 7:34:29 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: backwoods-engineer
We are WINNING

Indeed we are and I'd like to give a small amount of credit to the many democrat gun owners who see the B.S. for what it is. It would be a tougher fight if only conservatives were fighting it.

Like when Bush tried to push "immigration reform" down our throat. The general public rebelled.

26 posted on 03/04/2013 7:35:16 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Waste and fraud link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2993395/posts


27 posted on 03/04/2013 7:35:51 PM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: DemforBush

“Lock ‘em up.”

Locking Democraps up in a prison is likely to be considered cruel and unusual punishment in that prisoners usually and customarily are imprisoned with merely criminals - not the walking evil that is a Democrap.


28 posted on 03/04/2013 9:33:54 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: Libloather

The 2nd amendment is just as important as the first


29 posted on 03/04/2013 9:36:13 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
The 2nd amendment is just as important as the first

The 2nd Amendment protects the 1st.

30 posted on 03/04/2013 9:42:09 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

bump


31 posted on 03/04/2013 9:43:38 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dontreadthis

Fair point. Wouldn’t be the first time conservatives were smeared by a lefty pretending to be a conservative.


32 posted on 03/05/2013 2:41:49 PM PST by DemforBush (When life gives you lemons, hoard them and make a killing in citrus futures!)
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To: Bob

“the records let parents can learn whether a neighbor has guns before allowing their children to play there.”

They’re just proving they don’t have an editor.


33 posted on 03/05/2013 3:01:24 PM PST by EDINVA
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