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Looks like the Sequester Is Going to Happen (Update from Federal Worker)
N/A | 2/27/2013 | Ducttape45

Posted on 02/27/2013 7:26:14 PM PST by ducttape45

Elections have consequences.

I won't say what military base I work at,but today my office was briefed about the impending sequestration. There were a few interesting points to come out of the meeting.

1. You have to take at least 8 hours a week LWOP (leave without pay). You cannot use sick or annual leave on those days off. You cannot take more then 30 hours a week because then you'd be able to apply for unemployment and the federal government is ensuring we can't utilize that avenue to supplement our income. So they take us but prevent us from taking from them. Smart.....

2. No more credit time, comp time, or overtime. If, in the performance of your job you're responsible for monitoring contractors, those contractors have to leave or you leave them unsupervised. Just imagine the legal entanglements that are soon to arise.

3. We have to take 176 hours, or 22 days, off with no pay (which we will NOT get back for all you who have been saying otherwise) between April 25 and September 22. If the sequester lasts longer and we end up taking more than 30 days of sequester then mandatory RIFs will take place and people will start losing their jobs.

That's the news as I have it now. I'll post more as it comes available. I'm going to bed, I can hardly keep my eyes open but I had to post this for all to see.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 113th; bho44; furloughs; government; sequester
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To: ducttape45

Properly done, the sequester would start attacking the spending problem at its source - the various welfare programs would be the first to get hacked. People would have to prove that they actually needed the assistance. No more school lunches. Severely limited food stamps, eliminate section 8 housing. No, absolutely no benefits for illegals. Get the freeloaders off the government dole, assist only those that have a proven need.

But you won’t see the food stamp president advocating any of that, and the Republicans are too chicken to say it.


61 posted on 02/28/2013 3:05:01 AM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: Baynative
Every American that works for a living got a 2.4% tax increase...

Government workers don't pay taxes so they didn't get an increase...

62 posted on 02/28/2013 3:17:03 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: napscoordinator
Now you know for a fact that the conservatives working for the Federal Government are not the problem and that they put in a full days work and are not the slacker types. Just a thought...

Fatuous statement. ALL govt. workers are a drain on the economy. They produce nothing. Some are necessary but you can't prove just because they post on FR they are both necessary and responsible.

63 posted on 02/28/2013 3:20:39 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Trod Upon

I’m not going to beat up on federal employees but Lou Barletta nailed it on FOX this morning. A government that would rather turn criminals loose than let some federal employees go is too big and out of control.


64 posted on 02/28/2013 3:33:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Things are going to get a whole lot worse for people drawing a federal paycheck. They have to if we ever intend to see the private sector thrive again.

Thing is, it doesn't have to.

The Federal workforce is much "grayer" than the private-sector one, and OPM is seeing a significant uptick (as projected) in retirements.

Going after every Federal employee evenly is taking a meat cleaver rather than a steak knife to the problem. A combination of buyouts, a change to more of a pay-for-performance system (away from GS) and longer-term targeted furloughs (so don't furlough food inspectors, but make DC-area bureaucrats take more than 8 hours LWOP per week) will spur voluntary attrition and drive actual reductions in the Federal workforce.
65 posted on 02/28/2013 3:35:56 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: raybbr

There are plenty of SLACKERS in the civilian world that can’t be fired either because of laws. People on the outside make huge money for doing next to nothing. I have many friends who work on Wall Street and get huge bonus’ and other goodies and they accepted federal money for Wall Street. I imagine what you do doesn’t help society either.


66 posted on 02/28/2013 3:55:31 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: raybbr

Oh and we have been hearing the boo hoo from civilians for 8 measly percent unemployment for YEARS! Get over it...92 percent are still working. What a bunch of brats crying over nothing.


67 posted on 02/28/2013 3:57:06 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: tanknetter
Going after every Federal employee evenly is taking a meat cleaver rather than a steak knife to the problem. A combination of buyouts, a change to more of a pay-for-performance system (away from GS) and longer-term targeted furloughs (so don't furlough food inspectors, but make DC-area bureaucrats take more than 8 hours LWOP per week) will spur voluntary attrition and drive actual reductions in the Federal workforce.

Excellent suggestions. Chance of implemenation: zero. We both know that Zippy just wants to use this situation as a political football.

68 posted on 02/28/2013 3:58:56 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: vbmoneyspender

Yippie ki yay.....


69 posted on 02/28/2013 4:28:53 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: lp boonie

The press has been talking about this for a couple years, and yet people even here don’t understand this. We are an incredibly ill-informed nation incredibly ill-served by our Fourth Estate.

Entitlement spending must be reined in.


70 posted on 02/28/2013 4:31:36 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: jim-x

In the private sector the spigots got turned off years ago. If you watch corporate earnings reports you constantly see street beats on earnings, but shortfalls in revenues. This means the companies are becoming more efficient.

You cannot say the same about government.

Well, the shareholders are getting restless.


71 posted on 02/28/2013 4:36:03 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: Starwolf

J was describing how it’s done in the private sector. I also predicted the government would do it in a way that would maximize disruption, and so they are.


72 posted on 02/28/2013 4:36:31 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: napscoordinator

On the whole, federal pensioners live at the highest standards of anyone in the country.

The problem is that it seems all of here at FR want lower government spending. Except it means people losing their jobs. Just like the private sector.

I can feel bad for you individually, but I don’t feel bad in general. Come join us on the barricades.


73 posted on 02/28/2013 4:48:36 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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To: ducttape45

-——mandatory RIFs -——

There it is.....the dreaded term RIF. In my younger days as a Navy Civilian employee there were actually RIF’s.

The Reduction in force didn’t affect engineers, the clerks were the ones that got RIFFED. It’s comforting to learn the term has not been lost in Federal Employment lore


74 posted on 02/28/2013 4:55:24 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: ducttape45
If, in the performance of your job you're responsible for monitoring contractors, those contractors have to leave or you leave them unsupervised.

Oh, those evil contractors who the government depends on but loves to hate.

No sympathy here. Be thankful you still have a job.

75 posted on 02/28/2013 4:58:37 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Starwolf

“...additional good guys will die. I for one can afford the paycut, I am not so sure the guys on the pointy end of the spear can afford to lose the support.”

Please detail how troops in AFGN, Iraq, and other forward areas are directly effected by the supposed life-saving services you provide.

To my knowledge tactical units typically avoid depending upon rear eschelon units for providing local security and support.

I see your point but I just don’t think it’s as dire as you think. People will be fine.


76 posted on 02/28/2013 5:45:49 AM PST by Justa
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To: vbmoneyspender

Is this report from the same media you probably hate because of their biased, inaccurate reporting? C’mon, it is a sensationalist hit piece based on skewed, cherry picked data. If i searched, i could find articles from periodicals aimed at federal employees showing the opposite. The truth is somewhere betwwen.
Yes, government jobs are more secure than private sector (for the moment) but many could make more outside govt if they wanted to trade the security. Retirement is similar to many private sector now. I pay more for health insurance with govt than i did with private employer.


77 posted on 02/28/2013 6:00:24 AM PST by jim-x (9/11/2001 - Never forget, Never forgive.)
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To: Vermont Lt

On the whole, federal pensioners live at the highest standards of anyone in the country.

I agree with you on the fact that NOW Federal Pensioner Baby Boomers who are the WORST generation ever to step foot in America. They have done more damage then imaginable. X-ers do NOT have the best Federal Pension by a long shot. I can’t wait until the Baby Boomers FINALLY are out of EVERYTHING that is the United States of America. They are a disgrace and have ruined the United States. Once Generation X takes over, we will FINALLY be able to get America back on track. You can cry all day long that I am being unfair but it is true and yep my folks are Baby Boomers and would agree with every word I wrote.


78 posted on 02/28/2013 6:00:41 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Vermont Lt

I agree.


79 posted on 02/28/2013 6:08:41 AM PST by jim-x (9/11/2001 - Never forget, Never forgive.)
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To: Justa
To my knowledge tactical units typically avoid depending upon rear eschelon units for providing local security and support.

I know the folks in my unit provide daily reachback support with technical assistance on maintaining and flying one of the most demanded weapon systems in the world.

Your knowledge is suspect.

80 posted on 02/28/2013 6:23:05 AM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Based on a letter from an 8 year old…school is now illegal…”cuz it’s yuckey and dumb".)
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