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1 posted on 02/25/2013 4:08:37 PM PST by jazusamo
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Doncha know? Religious freedom occurs once a week for Bible thumpers and Papists when they are in a church and no where else. Its in the Constitution. Sheesh.
2 posted on 02/25/2013 4:13:18 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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Key quote in the article and is going to end badly for the Feds.

“Isn’t that as significant burden?”


3 posted on 02/25/2013 4:15:36 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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DOJ to Federal Judge: We Can Force Your Wife to Violate Her Religion

Unless, of course, her religion is islam!

In that case, we would never be so intolerant.

4 posted on 02/25/2013 4:17:07 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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the free exercise thereof...


7 posted on 02/25/2013 4:23:21 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Reply to DOJ: Well, I would tell you I could force your wife to be a prostitute, but my clerk tells me I’m too late!


10 posted on 02/25/2013 4:32:56 PM PST by freedumb2003 (I learned everything I needed to know about racism from Colin Powell)
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11 posted on 02/25/2013 4:34:01 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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They should’ve immediately been found in contempt and warned to never do that again.


12 posted on 02/25/2013 4:34:12 PM PST by darkangel82
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I do not know, but should, what the corporate structure of the various churches that we have in this country. I believe that they are incorporated.

This guy’s logic is that as a corporation, the corporation does not have an individual right of freedom of religion. Corporations have other constitutionally guarenteed right such as freedom of speech but does not havevthe right to vote, or right to bear arms (???). How was it decided that corporation have the right to free speech but not other individual right.

Applying this logic a little further, you could say that freedom of the press belong to the ‘press’ or ‘newspaper’ but does not extend to the individuals working their. So the reporters/editors, et al do not have protection under freedom of the press.


13 posted on 02/25/2013 4:34:35 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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15 posted on 02/25/2013 4:38:42 PM PST by narses
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16 posted on 02/25/2013 4:39:00 PM PST by narses
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17 posted on 02/25/2013 4:39:59 PM PST by narses
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Berwick: Well, your honor, again, I think it comes down to the fact that the corporation and the owner truly are separate. They are separate legal entities.

Corporations are legal fictions forced upon the people by tax law and liability law.

Corporations are people. They are owned by people and run by people.

Even large corporation are still run by people. The presidents and board of directors are elected by the share owners. The major share owners take great interest in who these people are. If the major share owners care what the moral values of the leaders of the company are they will vote accordingly.

You can not separate the moral values (religious values) from the people and the businesses that they run.

Many people believe that you can not legislate morality but the truth is that you can not help but legislate morality because they are one and the same; moral law informs society’s law.

I fear for my country because the laws that I see coming out of our legislature reflects a society that I no longer recognize as a Christian society.

18 posted on 02/25/2013 4:50:08 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Tyranny, pure and simple. And just like with supporters of the Second Amendment, they are STILL more worried that a Constitutional Convention would cost them their rights. Hello!?? Their rights are already circling the drain! And they still are being sold into debt serfdom by the Federal Reserve Corporation.


19 posted on 02/25/2013 4:51:42 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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I doubt Sebelius grasps the significance of their namesake, Tyndale.

May the Lord open their eyes as well.

21 posted on 02/25/2013 4:52:05 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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The mask over fascism is revealing itself a little more each day.


22 posted on 02/25/2013 4:56:05 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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The net effect of this will be the loss of all legitimacy of the US government. This is too far from the legal intuition of most Americans who hold on to the belief that this country’s laws are based on this country’s constitution.


23 posted on 02/25/2013 5:18:30 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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Does a corporation have the power to force an employee or stock holder to violate their religious beliefs?

Can the government force a corporation to violate the religious beliefs of either employees, or stock holders, or officers of the corporation when the corporate officials do not agree with the government?


24 posted on 02/25/2013 5:44:30 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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I'm kind of surprised the judge didn't simply ask if the corporation has political first amendment rights. Can it contribute to political campaigns? If so, how can the government support one right (freedom of expression), while denigrating another (freedom of religion)?

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

27 posted on 02/25/2013 7:42:21 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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