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BETWEEN SEVERAL PROTEST INTERRUPTIONS, PERRY VOWS NOT TO EXPAND MEDICAID
Abilene Reporter-News ^ | February 22, 2013 | Trish Choate

Posted on 02/22/2013 9:20:19 PM PST by txrangerette

Washington - The crowd...was downright unfriendly. Perry was interrupted, denounced and heckled for snubbing a Medicaid exansion in his state, but he vowed not to budge.

-snip-

The unfriendliness didn't stem from members of the Texas state Society...at a ritzy Republican club.

But the Lone star State's famously anti-Washington governor faced...protestors, of the Texas Organizing Project, who popped up by turns where he spoke.

(Excerpt) Read more at m.reporternews.com ...


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This is utterly planned and predictable. Paid to travel from Texas to Washington, to protest Perry's appearance from outside the venue and to interrupt it from inside. This is how the Left plays it. Egged on by the Media. Over and over and over and over and ad nauseum...

The article goes on the say that many of the guests inside GROANED at the disruptions, and were quoted saying "how rude!"

Yes, but it's more than just rude. It's a plot, a grand scheme.

Will we ever learn to play that game on our side?

Ever???

Further into the article, Perry's main quote is that Texas won't expand Medicaid as that would be expanding a broken system, and that down that road awaits bankruptcy. Do Kasich, Brewer, Scott et al know less than Perry about this, or do they know it, too, but buckled for other reasons??

1 posted on 02/22/2013 9:20:28 PM PST by txrangerette
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To: moder_ator; Sidebar Moderator

Please correct the spelling in the headline word “several”. “Serveral”= several, of course.


2 posted on 02/22/2013 9:27:30 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette
Please correct the spelling in the headline word “several”. “Serveral”= several, of course.

No matter how it's spelled, it's pronounced serval in the Texas Hill Country.
eg: "I'll have serval uh them biskits, please."

I like my Governor.

3 posted on 02/22/2013 9:34:59 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: txrangerette

The new ACORN?

Board Members

Charlie Rodriguez, President Community Leader, El Paso
Steve Halvorson, Treasurer Community Leader, Pasadena
Robert Conley Community Leader, Irving
Melba Williams Community Leader, Dallas
Deborah Walker Community Leader, Houston
Humberto Garcia Community Leader, Pasadena
Staff

Ginny Goldman Director Texas
Michelle Tremillo Deputy Director Texas
Crystal Zermeno Director of Strategic Organizing Texas
Kimberly Olsen Director of Voter Engagement Texas
Allison Brim Organizing Director Dallas County
Durrel Douglas Communications Coordinator Statewide
Resha Thomas Campaign Coordinator Houston
Gloria Villarreal Office Manager Houston
Jayne Junkin Lead Organizer Houston
Emi Zuniga Community Organizer Rio Grande Valley
Angelica Garcia Community Organizer Pasadena
Alain Cisneros Community Organizer Houston
Danny Cendejas Community Organizer Houston
Adriana Collazo Community Organizer Dallas County
Oscar Boleman Data Coordinator Statewide


4 posted on 02/22/2013 9:38:06 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: txrangerette

I should move to Texas!


5 posted on 02/22/2013 9:38:30 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I gues so... Seek nd ye shall find

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/19/Taxpayer-Watchdog-Group-Calls-on-I-R-S-To-Investigate-Re-Branded-Texas-ACORN-Branch

After James O’Keefe and the late Andrew Breitbart’s exposés effectively put the liberal community organizing group ACORN out of business, various former ACORN chapters have undergone extreme makeovers, branding themselves with different names and different mission statements.
But underneath all of the cosmetic changes, ACORN’s principles and spirit remain the same.
The latest, according to the taxpayer watchdog group Cause of Action, is ACORN’s former Texas chapter, which is using “a new name and a scheme to collect donations and divert them for political use in a way that abuses tax laws governing charitable organizations.”
Cause of Action has called on the I.R.S. to formally investigate the Texas Organizing Project Education Fund (TOP ED) for funneling money to the Texas Organizing Project (TOP), the former ACORN chapter, that was used to fund political activity, like soliciting support for Democrats in Texas who are running for office like Mary Ann Perez, as reported by FOX News. This, according to Cause of Action, potentially violates the group’s tax exempt status, which forbids them from engaging in any direct political activity.
In a letter to the I.R.S., Cause of Action officials wrote that “TOP is the reconstituted ACORN in Texas,” and formed “after ACORN became subject to public scrutiny, and eventually filed for bankruptcy.” According to Cause of Action, ACORN “re-branded many of its state chapters in order that those organizations could continue pursuing ACORN’s goals.”
“Fiscal sponsorship [has allowed TOP and TOP ED] to use a loophole in the tax code to engage in improper political activities under the radar of the IRS,” Dan Epstein, executive director of Cause of Action, told FoxNews.com. “Cause of Action is asking the IRS to investigate these groups for potential abuses of their tax-exempt status, and to hold them accountable for any violations they find.”
According to the report, TOP ED “gave nearly 80 percent of its revenues — approximately $640,000 — to the advocacy group in 2010.”
“While fiscal sponsorships are legal, it is not legal for a 501(c)(3) organization, such as TOP ED, to give any money to an organization that engages in political activity, without triggering various tax consequences,” Cause of Action wrote in its letter to the I.R.S.
The letter also states that “the activities and interest of the TOP are similar and aligned with that of ACORN, as TOP acknowledges on their website,” and “because TOP is not a 501(c)(3) organization and is a fiscal client of TOP ED, the Internal Revenue Code imputes the activities of the fiscal client to the fiscal agent; any organization that acted as a fiscal sponsor for TOP therefore engaged in political activity if TOP engaged in political activity.”


6 posted on 02/22/2013 9:40:53 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: sockmonkey

Oh, you’re not supposed to like him.

Not even here (FR).

Not that THAT stops us...


7 posted on 02/22/2013 9:41:45 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Another article

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/03/30/texas-comes-aboard-the-acorn-rebranding-hoax-continues/

As Glenn Beck and others (including yours truly) predicted, ACORN is moving ahead full speed with its make-believe dissolution and rebranding.

Nathan Henderson-James, ACORN’s online director, explained ACORN’s latest con in an email. In the Feb. 22 email Henderson-James wrote that ACORN was in its death throes and that a dozen ACORN state chapters reincorporated to seem like new, independent organizations would soon spring up to carry on ACORN’s business.

“The truth is that it is hard for us to forsee [sic] any scenario where ACORN continues beyond the end of 2010 and some of us think it might not last that long,” Nathan Henderson wrote. “Last one to leave turn out the lights and wipe the server.”

The email was leaked by sources from Townhouse, an invitation-only listserv run by Matt Stoller, senior policy adviser to the severely undermedicated Florida Democrat Rep. Alan Grayson.

Meanwhile, an inside ACORN source confirmed this to me yesterday: the Texas chapter of ACORN has pretended to break off from the national group and has incorporated itself under the name Texas Organizing Project.

The other five ACORN chapters that have dumped the ACORN brand so far are Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment (ACCE), Missourians Organizing for Reform Empowerment (MORE), New York Communities for Change, New England United for Justice (Massachusetts) and Arkansas Community Organizations.

Project Vote, ACORN’s vote fraud affiliate, hasn’t changed its name. It may not feel it needs to do so because it doesn’t have the word ACORN in its name.

ACORN Housing, which operates nationwide, changed its legal name to Affordable Housing Centers of America.

There is no word yet if ACORN Housing will continue to offer a drop-in legal clinic for pimps and prostitutes.

Multiple sources confirm ACORN plans to maintain a low-profile for a year or two and then reemerge under a new name.

(I created a handy chart you can use for reference. It tracks ACORN’s rebranding process.)

Do you like this story? tags: ACORN, ACORN Housing, Alan Grayson, Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment, Arkansas Community Organizations, Glenn Beck Program, Matt Stoller, Missourians Organizing for Reform Empowerment, Nathan Henderson-James, New England United for Justice, New York Communities for Change, News, NewsRealblog, Politics, Project Vote, Texas Organizing Project


8 posted on 02/22/2013 9:44:23 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Bingo!

And I’m sick and tired of this crap.

We have become nothing but punching bags on our side, which is the RIGHT side.


9 posted on 02/22/2013 9:47:25 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

Good for him for standing his ground. Texas rules!


10 posted on 02/22/2013 9:50:23 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: LUV W

“Texas rules”

Thanks, LUV W.

If only that were a literal, all-encompassing statement.


11 posted on 02/22/2013 9:54:09 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

>Do Kasich, Brewer, Scott et al know less than Perry about this, or do they know it, too, but buckled for other reasons??<

Kasich, my governor (unfortunately) is going to run for the presidency in 2016.
So he, like Obama, is busy buying votes.


12 posted on 02/22/2013 9:55:19 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: txrangerette

Could be if things in DC keep getting deeper in the tall weeds!

We’re tired of their crap here! I know you have to feel the same way!


13 posted on 02/22/2013 9:58:37 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: bimboeruption

Foisting this horror on the people isn’t my idea of planning to run for President.

Anyone (Kasich in this case) who has done this should be an outcast, not a presidential candidate.


14 posted on 02/22/2013 9:59:04 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Admin Moderator; moder_ator; Sidebar Moderator

What do I need to do, that I’ve not done, to have the headlined word corrected from “serveral” to “several”?

It was an unfortunate typo. And no, I don’t pronounce it that way or spell it that way, even though I’m Texan.

I’m NOT LBJ!


15 posted on 02/22/2013 10:02:58 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

>Anyone (Kasich in this case) who has done this should be an outcast, not a presidential candidate.<

I agree!

He’ll NEVER win...the guy’s an arrogant jerk, married to a lib AND he’s got Napoleon complex.


16 posted on 02/22/2013 10:14:14 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: txrangerette

Stick to your guns, Governor!


17 posted on 02/22/2013 10:40:44 PM PST by berdie
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To: txrangerette

Considering some of those that would like to be Governor, we certainly could do a whole lot worse. Seems to me like a lot of people who criticize Perry don’t know much about Texas politics. Now if we could get rid of Dewdrop, Strauss and Patterson.


18 posted on 02/22/2013 11:09:25 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

I agree.

But I sure can see Abbott at sometime in the future..if he is willing.


19 posted on 02/22/2013 11:15:57 PM PST by berdie
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To: bimboeruption
How about running on doing the right and responsible thing.
It seems that politicians don't care about people who are
conservative minded and have common sense. I am sick of the whole darn lot of them.
20 posted on 02/22/2013 11:24:42 PM PST by funfan
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To: berdie

I would love to see Abbott as Lt. Governor. Because of what I perceive as the power structure in Texas, I think his talents would be wasted as Governor. OTOH, Abbott is a great AG - if he decides to run for another position in 2014, wonder who is out there that can continue to serve Texans as well.

The major cities, the politicians in them and the people who vote for those politicians support amnesty, gays and increased irresponsible spending. Then we have RINOS like Patterson who wants to expand the guest worker program. Does not bode well.


21 posted on 02/22/2013 11:52:55 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: txrangerette

I’m generally no defender of Perry, considering his INSANE idea of putting toll booths on our freeways and his coddling of Illegals, but he’s been right on the money here.

What’s got to be grating the liberals now is that people in Texas that want these goodies now may flood other states, which, all of a sudden, are much more generous in providing health care for people with low reported income. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if people showing up at government offices are told something like: “you don’t qualify here, but Florida and Arizona would be HAPPY to put you on their roles”.

Similarly for the great education bribe, where the governor has told DC to shove it with its Common Core Curricula - which he correctly describes as a federal takeover of education. In fact, California, which actually had very high math standards, had to lower theirs to line up with the feds. Specifically, they used to require Algebra in 8th grade, now it’s 9th grade, and the reason given with the Common Core Curricula


22 posted on 02/23/2013 4:25:38 AM PST by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: Grams A

If all they did was come here to work and go home, under a regularized program, to do certain work that could absorb them without blocking citizens from that work if they wanted it, I would have no problem with that. Please say what would be wrong with it. I don’t get it.


23 posted on 02/23/2013 4:47:46 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: BobL

FR readers might want to know that CSCOPE - re: your tagline - has seen the light of day. It has now been opened up to the legislature and to the public. People are on to it. I’ve posted that new fact on other threads. So, guess what, it isn’t someone’s “exclusive” beef, and it isn’t going unrecognized and unattended to.

The whistle blowing began with Texans themselves whose kids in the public schools brought the treasonous bilge home with them and caused parents to contact their public officials.

Unfortunately, as it was portrayed on the internet, one would get the impression that Texans themselves were sitting idly by, doing nothing, when the truth is otherwise.

When Texans turned out to vote massively for a Mormon Yankee ex-governor of Massachusetts because he was NOT Barack Hussein Obama, that is not the action of a people who would knowingly sit by while their children were propagandized and brainwashed by a secret, treasonous curriculum.


24 posted on 02/23/2013 4:59:49 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette
Do Kasich, Brewer, Scott et al know less than Perry about this

Rick Scott was the Chairman and CEO of one of the largest operators of private healthcare facilities in the world. I don't know about Kasich or Brewer, but the idea that Rick Scott knows less about providing health care than Rick Perry is pretty ludicrous.

25 posted on 02/23/2013 5:29:15 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Mr. Know It All

What are you talking about?

The point was, why did FL, AZ and OH buckle to Obamacare when, as Perry said, down that road leads to bankruptcy. Does Perry know more about the road leading to bankruptcy going through buckling to Obamacare than these others, or do they know it, too, but buckled for other reasons?

I know about Scott’s background.

This has NOTHING to do with his background.

Nothing.


26 posted on 02/23/2013 6:04:10 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Mr. Know It All

And since you “know it all”, do please further enlighten us on the advantages of caving to that part of the Obamacare mandate (ruled unconstitutional) for the states to greatly expand Medicaid to put millions of uninsured into Medicaid under Obamacare. In this instance, apparently the Feds say they will, for now, give you money (that they don’t have) for the expansion, but it’s clear that later, you will be on your own.

Perry’s point: the Medicaid system is broken. You should not, and he will not, greatly expand a broken system. Down that road, whether under Obamacare or under anything, is bankruptcy. His point: the states need wavers that allow them to design their own programs for the poor. His point: as in Texas’ refusal to set up an Obamacare state exchange, do not co-operate with Obamacare, period.

The poet has well written: “Do not go gentle into that good night; rage, rage against the dying of the light”.


27 posted on 02/23/2013 6:14:32 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

LOL, you don’t seem to be a CSCOPE supporter either.

I just added that tag line on that post. I call it “spooky” how 70 to 80% of the schools in Texas would just sign up to it, sight unseen, illegally, right under the noses of our state legislature, which is being HOUNDED non-stop into handing them even billions of dollars more. That’s some gratitude on their part.

When such a high percentage of schools do this, one has to SERIOUSLY wonder just who runs the schools. I’d like to think it’s a conspiracy, because that’s the optimistic view. They got into a smoke-filled room, decided they HATED the yahoos at the State Board of Education (elected by real Texans, by the way), and agreed to use CSCOPE to kick them out of their oversight role.

The reason I want to believe it’s a conspiracy is because the only alternative is that we have some type of alien entity running our schools (see the movie “They Live”, on Youtube). This is TEXAS for Heaven’s sake, not California or MA or other blue states. How did this entity take control of our schools?

I’m sure the courts would never allow it, but I wish Dan Patrick and company would simply de-fund ANY school using CSCOPE, if nothing else, as punishment for that stunt.

By the way, in my “discussions” on CSCOPE in other forums, I’ve had 4 people respond to me (all appeared to be teachers). All 4 agreed that CSCOPE sucks academically, and two of them agreed that I suck too (LOL) as a paranoid right-winger. But NONE OF THEM seemed bothered by any other aspect of CSCOPE, such as the threat of criminal prosecution for disclosing content, the end-around from our state accountability system, the inability of parents to see the material and thereby help (really teach) their kids, etc. None of that bothered them - which tells me that they are CLEARLY part of the problem, since if CSCOPE was a decent curriculum, it’s quite possible that it would still be under wraps - as teacher complaints (only about content) has been one of the main reasons it has finally seen daylight.


28 posted on 02/23/2013 6:42:54 AM PST by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: txrangerette

If all they did was come here to work and go home..”

But that’s not what they do. They never go home. They have children and bring their entire families across. There is no enforcement of any of our current laws concerning illegals and when there is, like Sheriff Joe is trying to do, it is not supported by the Federal agencies. We have millions sitting at home collecting unemployment that could and should be doing most of these job and they would if their unemployment was cut off.

Human nature being what it is, employers can pay them less in cash which ends up in Mexico and not on the tax roles. Then there is all the money we spend on ESL classes in public schools and all the Section 8 housing, lunch programs, Medicaid and other government benefits that they end up receiving. Also to be addressed is the dilution of our United States culture. The Federal government simply will not enforce the current laws - what makes you think they would enforce any change in the laws to ensure compliance?

We don’t even do anything about those that overstay legal visas. And we have no idea what/who is even coming across the Mexico border into the U.S. Don’t you think it is a bit strange that a U.S. citizen cannot go into Mexico and demand and get the same “rights” that Mexican citizens come into the U.S. and demand and receive?


29 posted on 02/23/2013 6:57:16 AM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: entropy12

Its not like texas doesn’t have its issues. They pretty much force the kids to take spanish classes because god forbid you not be able to communicate with all the illegals they embrace in their state. And I do mean embrace. they treat them better than they treat a fellow conservative american who comes to their state. texans take full advantage of the cheap illegal labor at the same time bitching about all the freebies they get. put your money where your mouth is texans. give up your cheap illegal labor and maybe you guys wouldn’t come across as such hypocrites. And yes, i lived there. saw it with my own eyes. Texas gets alot of stuff right but this issue...not so much


30 posted on 02/23/2013 9:33:52 AM PST by annelizly
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To: txrangerette
The point was, why did FL, AZ and OH buckle to Obamacare when, as Perry said, down that road leads to bankruptcy

This raises a question: if Medicare expansion grows a "broken" system that takes us down the road to bankruptcy, what was Medicare doing before?

Rick Perry has had over a decade as Governor of Texas; at any time, he could have completely opted out of Medicare. If he's right about it, why hasn't he gotten out completely?

And since you “know it all”, do please further enlighten us on the advantages of caving to that part of the Obamacare mandate (ruled unconstitutional) for the states to greatly expand Medicaid to put millions of uninsured into Medicaid under Obamacare.

Sure.

Let's say you're the Governor of Florida, and you notice that your state spends $2.8 billion a year covering care for uninsured people. You also know that you can cut that by 25%-50% by taking a federal grant. If you really hate the idea of taking federal money you could consider other options. (And let's be clear, we're talking about taking more federal money, on top of the billions that they've been happily taking for years.)

You could sit back and do nothing. The Feds will come in and set you up an "insurance exchange" (after all, why would you want to run your own state when you can delegate to the Feds?). The idea of the exchanges is to use market forces to lower the cost of insurance. Of course, if you punt the Medicaid expansion, all of those people will get subsidized policies from your state exchange. This huge base of artificial demand will stifle competition and cause insurance rates in your state to be higher than normal.

So, the bottom line of rejecting the Medicaid expansion is that the people who were buying insurance before are now paying more.

I think Rick Scott understands all of this from his years of business experience. I'm not so sure about career politician Rick "I can't remember the third thing" Perry.

31 posted on 02/23/2013 9:45:52 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Mr. Know It All
Well-reasoned argument..except for "...this raises a question: if Medicare expansion grows a "broken" system that takes us down the road to bankruptcy, what was Medicare doing before? Rick Perry has had over a decade as Governor of Texas; at any time, he could have completely opted out of Medicare. If he's right about it, why hasn't he gotten out completely?"

Careful about getting Medicare and Medicaid confused.

But at least you're a voice of reason. The expansion is a potential time bomb, and states that take part are setting their citizens up for heartache.

I'm dreading 2014.

32 posted on 02/23/2013 10:19:06 AM PST by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: Badabing Badablonde
Careful about getting Medicare and Medicaid confused.

Thank you for the correction. My brain said "Medicaid" and my fingers said "Medicare." It is, as you point out, and important distinction.

33 posted on 02/23/2013 11:12:07 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Badabing Badablonde; Mr. Know It All

Excuse me?

He could have completely opted out of Medicaid??

Tell me all about it.


34 posted on 02/23/2013 1:01:39 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Grams A

Oh I’m aware of the horrible “system” going on now, thanks to the Feds.

I wasn’t aware that Patterson wanted to expand guest worker while everything else stayed just like it is now (horrible), or was made even worse if another legislative amnesty is granted. Many people have made the point that a de facto amnesty is in effect now because Obama has made himself the law instead of enforcing the laws on the books.

I thought we were talking about the idea of guest workers, as opposed to the idea of amnesty or de facto amnesty, path to citizenship, etc. It was that idea I was asking about what is wrong with it.


35 posted on 02/23/2013 1:09:15 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: annelizly

Really?

In my high school they offered French, German, Latin and Spanish.

I chose French.

That was years ago...has something changed that forces hs students to take Spanish?

I’m sure a lot do take it. But the issue is, are they forced?


36 posted on 02/23/2013 1:13:08 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Mr. Know It All

Because you have done “A” before does not mean that doing “A” under different circumstances going forward is the thing to do.

The circumstances regarding the Medicaid program of today are different from what they were through the years. It was always a disaster in the making as the years passed. It could not help but lead to a bad result, or brokenness, as Perry says.

It has nowhere to go but down.

Now you have on top of that a placement of the stupid, already broken as it is written, Obamacare on top of Medicaid.

Anyone who brings up Perry’s debate problem (he did better as the debates went on, but what the hay do YOU care, right?...as he got past his back surgery and pain meds difficulties) is de facto admitting you don’t really care about reasoning and common sense on the issue under discussion.

Again, tell us more and more and more how you love caving to Obamacare. You can deny it forever, but you can’t be believed. It isn’t good to set up a state exchange under Obamacare. It isn’t good to expand Medicaid so Obamacare can sit on top of it to collapse it more than it already is. To argue those points is to be totally FOR caving to Obamacare and it does not matter what you call it.

You need to start an honest thread of your own. A vanity. Call it Mr. Know It All’s apologia for caving to Obamacare. Make your hero Rick Scott. He knows so much about healthcare. He knows caving to Obamacare is just the thing for Americans and Floridians and even Texans to do.

Glad I live in Texas.


37 posted on 02/23/2013 1:27:57 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

Elementery school.


38 posted on 02/23/2013 1:43:40 PM PST by annelizly
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To: Grams A

You are right. Lt. Gov would be a far better position.

Replacing him as AG could be tricky.


39 posted on 02/23/2013 2:12:01 PM PST by berdie
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To: txrangerette

Perry is the one who got away. He would have stood strong on gun rights and religious freedom. Three terms and Texas is going strong under his leadership. Who cares if he’s not a smooth talking elitist.


40 posted on 02/23/2013 2:23:31 PM PST by jersey117
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To: Mr. Know It All
As I understand the exchanges (or market places as they have been quaintly renamed)...the Feds will subsidize Medicaid in the states for 3 years, then drop to 90 per cent and then receive no federal funding. At the same time, the Feds will determine Medicaid qualification.

IMHO, that accomplishes two goals. The Feds will govern who qualifies for Medicaid and can expand those requirements to insure people that might not qualify otherwise (get the monkey off of their back). Secondly, when the Fed funding period expires, the states will be left holding the bag with the Feds basically in charge.

It's actually a pretty cleaver strategy on the Feds part. Short term the states will be grateful for the influx of funding...long term will be a disaster.

41 posted on 02/23/2013 2:28:15 PM PST by berdie
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To: txrangerette
Excuse me?

Perry could have completely opted out of Medicaid??

Tell me all about it.

There's not much to tell. Participation in Medicaid by a state is entirely voluntary. That includes Texas.

The circumstances regarding the Medicaid program of today are different from what they were through the years. It was always a disaster in the making as the years passed. It could not help but lead to a bad result, or brokenness, as Perry says.

Perry has been governor for around one quarter of the time Texas has had Medicaid. When, exactly, did times change? Perry never said anything about Medicaid before about 2010. He still hasn't vowed to kill the program completely.

Anyone who brings up Perry’s debate problem (he did better as the debates went on, but what the hay do YOU care, right?...as he got past his back surgery and pain meds difficulties)

Sorry to break it to you, but "he was high on Oxy" isn't considered a valid excuse for a sitting Governor in other states.

42 posted on 02/23/2013 4:32:24 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Mr. Know It All; Jim Robinson

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Note: FR is pro-limited government, pro-low taxes, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-Constitution, pro-Capitalism, and pro-freedom.

“OUR GOD-GIVEN LIBERTY AND FREEDOMS ARE NOT NEGOTIABLE.” (Rick Scott negotiated using our liberty and freedoms as bargaining chips, in return for borrowed money from the bankrupt and corrupt Feds, for a short time.)

Obamacare is the antithesis of what Jim Robinson and this site stand for. It is anti-limited government, anti-low taxes, anti-Bill of Rights, anti-Constitution, anti-Capitialism and anti-freedom.

I have nothing more to debate you about. I’m done with that. Debate Jim Robinson, or if he so chooses that you can continue flapping your yap here about Rick Scott, good, Rick Perry, bad, because your boy caved to Obamacare and you’re glad he did and think he’s real smart, but Perry didn’t and you think that’s too bad, and stupid, well, that’s up to Jim.


43 posted on 02/23/2013 6:02:57 PM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

I love my state (Washington) but hate the politics destroying everything. I do wish we could transfer Texas policies here so I could continue to enjoy my environment... Texas is too warm for my tastes but eventually may have to sacrifice the way we’re going.

What’s the common refrain these days? “Let it Burn?” That’s my attitude right now. Politically anyway. Few stand for anything anymore and I have no hope it will recover. I would like to thank the good people like the fair Michelle Malkin and Palin surrogates for ripping Perry over a few debates. Such good conservative warriors. This country would certainly have come to an end sooner if someone of Perry’s backbone had won the presidency. and oh so glad his stance on illegals was denied fruition. That issue was certainly worth derailing every other good he offered. Not like anyone in the GOP is leading the charge to bring about a worse solution :::coughing Jeb Bush’s puppet Rubio::::


44 posted on 02/23/2013 8:10:16 PM PST by Soul Seeker (I will work every day to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your lives as I can - Perry)
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To: Soul Seeker

Thank you for your input.

Perry was governor when all but 4 Texas legislators voted to allow children of illegals to attend college with the same tuition rate as citizen children. IF they had attended HS three years and graduated, which by law they had to be allowed to do (a federal law) and met other requirements. He agreed with that POV, but it’s false that this was Rick Perry’s thing. It was the thing of the Texas legislature, which was controlled by Republicans.

In fact Perry has fought the Feds many years over BORDER INSECURITY. In fact Texas has used many millions of its own resources to help provide the people on our side of the border with as much security as we can muster given that the Feds policies have and are ruining our security.

But I didn’t post this thread about Perry and his “stance on illegals”, as you know.

I’m simply letting people know that Perry spoke in Washington to Texans, and he was protested by an organized re-creation of ACORN - some Texans, some not - and he said TX would not expand Medicaid under Obamacare just as it would not create a “state exchange” under Obamacare.

Previously lauded GOP governors are caving.

It makes me sick.

Perry is different. That’s all I want show.


45 posted on 02/24/2013 4:40:05 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Soul Seeker

“all I want (to) show”


46 posted on 02/24/2013 4:42:05 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: Mr. Know It All; Soul Seeker; Jim Robinson

Linked article explains why no state has ever opted out of Medicaid, explains the “fix” or mess states are caught in, explains what’s gone horribly wrong with Medicaid at the same time states are caught in the mess, explains what’s wrong with putting Obamacare on top of it.

Should States Opt Out of Medicaid? - Forbes

http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2010/11/29/should-states-opt-out-of-medicaid/

Updated: 02/24/2013

Rick Perry’s view of Medicaid and Obamacare is tracked dead on by this Forbes article.


47 posted on 02/24/2013 5:23:59 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

I used to not like Perry for my governor. He still has plenty of flaws, but I’m warming up to him.


48 posted on 02/24/2013 6:30:46 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Mr. Know It All

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2013/2/state-medicaid-expansion-represents-bad-welfare-and-health-policy


49 posted on 02/24/2013 7:46:14 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Looks like our Governor Bob McDonnell,
just sold our state out to the Medicaid expansionists!
They attached it to the state highway bill funding.


50 posted on 02/24/2013 8:05:17 AM PST by Yorktownpatriot (2nd American revolution.. let it start here!)
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