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"Keep your so-called workers," U.S. boss tells France
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | February 20, 2013 | Emmanuel Jarry and Catherine Bremer

Posted on 02/21/2013 3:17:58 PM PST by 1rudeboy

PARIS (Reuters) - The CEO of a U.S. tire company has delivered a crushing summary of how some outsiders view France's work ethic in a letter saying he would have to be stupid to take over a factory whose staff only put in three hours work a day.

Titan International's Maurice "Morry" Taylor, who goes by "The Grizz" for his bear-like no-nonsense style, told France's left-wing industry minister in a letter published by Paris media that he had no interest in buying a doomed plant.

"The French workforce gets paid high wages but works only three hours. They get one hour for breaks and lunch, talk for three and work for three," Taylor wrote on February 8 in the letter in English addressed to the minister, Arnaud Montebourg.

"I told this to the French union workers to their faces. They told me that's the French way!" Taylor added in the letter, which was posted by business daily Les Echos on its website on Wednesday and which the ministry confirmed was genuine.

"How stupid do you think we are?" he asked at one point.

"Titan is going to buy a Chinese tire company or an Indian one, pay less than one Euro per hour wage and ship all the tires France needs," he said. "You can keep the so-called workers."

As the leaked letter drew outrage in France, Montebourg penned a scathing response, spelling out the reasons why France routinely ranks as a leading destination for companies to invest, beating China and India in mid-2012.

"Can I remind you that Titan, the business you run, is 20 times smaller than Michelin, the French (tire) technology leader with international influence, and 35 times less profitable," Montebourg wrote, in a two-page letter in French.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: france; mauricetaylor; morrytaylor; titan

1 posted on 02/21/2013 3:18:02 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Before the hate I want everyone to know Michelin tires sold here are *made in U S A.*


2 posted on 02/21/2013 3:25:57 PM PST by omega4179 ( Huelo azufre)
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To: omega4179

Nice tires, I have a set. Expensive, though.


3 posted on 02/21/2013 3:30:35 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: omega4179

Michelins are good but they are real expensive. I would rather buy from India too, at least I am getting a good deal


4 posted on 02/21/2013 3:33:27 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

“Michelins are good but they are real expensive. I would rather buy from India too, at least I am getting a good deal”

Get BF Goodrich. Same company. (Michelin)


5 posted on 02/21/2013 3:49:11 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 1rudeboy

Even better, I heard he told them in Midwestern Standard English.


6 posted on 02/21/2013 3:52:41 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: omega4179

Michelin manufactures worldwide, including in China. I would concede, however, that they do have several plants in France, mostly near their Clermont-Ferrand HQ.


7 posted on 02/21/2013 4:04:38 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: 1rudeboy
Weren't most of the rubber plantations in Indochina (Viet Nam) owned by Michelin?

Probably not a good historical antecedent for a French-American tire manufacturing pissing contest.

8 posted on 02/21/2013 4:15:07 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: yldstrk

South Korean tire makers:

Kumho and Hanook


9 posted on 02/21/2013 4:54:17 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: yldstrk

South Korean tire makers:

Kumho and Hankook


10 posted on 02/21/2013 4:54:33 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
Kumhos have been the summer tire of choice in my family for some time now. Best roadholding and handling for the buck, no contest.

In the winter, I like many others, bow before the mighty Bridgestone Blizzak, king of snow and ice.

11 posted on 02/21/2013 5:09:05 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: 1rudeboy

Another cultural conflict and misunderstanding. Americans live to work, Europeans work to live. Did I tell you about my co-workers who worked 70-80 hrs each week getting paid for 40, incompetent, or semi-competent, and who knows how many of those 60-70 hours they actually worked and contributed, that’s how much time they were present, and the idiot management appreciated and rewarded it.


12 posted on 02/21/2013 5:15:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Another cultural conflict and misunderstanding. Americans live to work, Europeans work to live. Did I tell you about my co-workers who worked 70-80 hrs each week getting paid for 40, incompetent, or semi-competent, and who knows how many of those 60-70 hours they actually worked and contributed, that’s how much time they were present, and the idiot management appreciated and rewarded it.


13 posted on 02/21/2013 5:15:51 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I could probably do more in 25 hours than they do in 70 if it’s not labor.

Where do I sign up?


14 posted on 02/21/2013 6:11:51 PM PST by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Revolting cat!

“Did I tell you about my co-workers who worked 70-80 hrs each week getting paid for 40, incompetent, or semi-competent, and who knows how many of those 60-70 hours they actually worked and contributed, that’s how much time they were present, and the idiot management appreciated and rewarded it.”
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Interesting sentence, I wonder what it means.


15 posted on 02/21/2013 7:25:25 PM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: RipSawyer
"//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////"

Interesting graphic (?), I wonder what it means.

16 posted on 02/21/2013 7:28:49 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Uhh...One more time?


17 posted on 02/22/2013 6:52:15 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: yldstrk
I would rather buy from India too, at least I am getting a good deal

The only person getting a good deal would be the maker. Even if the tires cost dropped to $5, I can assure you that the price to the consumer wouldn't budge.

18 posted on 02/22/2013 7:19:43 AM PST by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: Cyclone59

I am not buying any French garbage


19 posted on 02/22/2013 7:22:05 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Revolting cat!

The graphic has no actual meaning, it is merely my peculiar way of separating your words from mine. I am still trying to decipher that sentence though.


20 posted on 02/22/2013 7:23:51 AM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: GeronL
Homework Hangook Style – the BEST Gangnam parody, except for “Kim Jong Style”, of course
21 posted on 02/22/2013 9:02:18 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Now the only choice is the atheist Chinese?

Is that how Maurice “Morry” Taylor is going to stick it to the country that produced Jeanne d’Arc?

Grrr.. I hate socialist Europe, so I am going to give all of my money to China.

Take a pay cut, protest by opening a plant in North Carolina.

Tell your buddy in Hobby Lobby to stop buying that commie crap too.

If everybody else is just making enough to get by because of Obummer, it’s time that these CEOs start caring about getting Americans back to work and stop going to the Chicom because it’s cheaper.


22 posted on 02/22/2013 9:09:49 AM PST by rumandmonkey
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To: fishtank

lol


23 posted on 02/22/2013 10:32:59 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ecomcon; RipSawyer

Let’s have it out: are we offended (in the context of the above story) by the mention of semi-competent American workaholics and the stupid corporate managements that reward them?


24 posted on 02/22/2013 11:46:22 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!; ecomcon

How can we be offended when we don’t even know what you are trying to say in that sentence? Why don’t you try reading it slowly and ask yourself if you had not written it yourself would you have any idea what it means? I even showed it to my wife and she at first thought she understood it but then admitted that she really didn’t know what it meant. Maybe I, my wife and ecomcon are all just slow witted?


25 posted on 02/22/2013 5:34:36 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

Run-on sentences are hard, just ask anyone who’s read or tried reading William Faulkner. In mine above, I see one problem - an inconsistency, where I should have listed the same range of hours both times.


26 posted on 02/22/2013 5:55:32 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I have read a lot of Faulkner but as much as I liked his stories I was sometimes tempted to throw the book in the trash because it was so hard to figure out what he was trying to say. There is much to admire about Faulkner but his sentence structure is not something to praise unless you admire obscurity.

I try to constantly remember that the fact that I know what it is that I am attempting to convey is no guarantee whatsoever that a reader will know what it is that I am attempting to convey.

There is more wrong with your sentence than numerical inconsistency and that is the last I intend to say on the matter.


27 posted on 02/22/2013 6:42:12 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: RipSawyer

I subscribe, I’m no longer sure why, to an e-mail newsletter of a music industry insider, who is what some would call a “graphomaniac”, as on some days he sends out two or three e-mails a day, “analyzing”, if you will, some aspects of some happenings in the music industry. I signed up a couple of years ago after he introduced me to a great undiscovered musical act. I guess, I keep my membership, which is free, by the way, graphomaniacs don’t need to charge, only because every once in a while he composes an e-mail titled “Mailbag” in which he quotes e-mails to himself from various interesting characters in the industry, musicians and managers, writing stories, clarifications, remembrances.

Long story short and my point, the man writes single sentence paragraphs. Declarations, sentences, which all ought to end with exclamation points, no thought ever gets developed, no doubts ever expressed, everything clear, everything stated explicitly, opinion after opinion, judgment after judgment, no ambiguities whatsoever. I’ll take the impenetrable Faulkner over that any day (though frankly, I prefer my T.R. Pearson, and others who write long, long sentences.)


28 posted on 02/22/2013 7:01:54 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Pikers all! Try Marquez.


29 posted on 02/24/2013 1:03:25 PM PST by AndrewB (FUBO)
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