Debate simmers over doctors asking about guns

hamptonroads.com ^ | February 9, 2013 | Amy Jeter

[BobL]

“I’d always assumed that if you ever passed a background check or bought ammo/supplies with a debit card, the government already knew.”

You’re likely right, but they’re not the people that are being sought out. They’re looking for the hard-core types, that don’t take any crap from the government.

So they ask this question, knowing that if it’s thrown back in their face, they’ve smoked out another one that hiding under the radar.

[BobL]

““I don’t discuss my personal or family security measures with anybody but members of my family.””

Your answer is then in the books. And bit-by-bit they build up their database, knowing that evasive answers are just the same as a direct “yes” answer.

[Red in Blue PA]

I’ll repeat what I’ve said in the past: If asked by a doctor whether you have guns, you need to give A POLITE NO as your answer. Anything else gets you on another list, that, very easily, can be turned over to the government.

Nail on the head post.

Anyone who believes a clever answer to this is the way to go is deluding themselves.

[trebb]

Doctor groups say physicians are obligated to warn their patients about guns along with other health risks, such as riding in a car without wearing a seat belt. However, gun rights advocates balk at what they see as a needless invasion of privacy and blatant attempt at gun control advocacy.

Then they also need to warn factory folks to remember their safety glasses, steel-toed boots, and to never operate equipment without all the guards in working order and in place. They need to tell drivers to be on the lookout for the other guy, to leave lots of stopping room and to obey all traffic signals, especially RR crossings. They need to warn those of sexual activity age of all the STDs out there, especially the really nasty ones that run rampant through the homosexual community.

Them doctors are going to be really busy once this goes to its natural conclusion.

[babyfreep]

“Doctor groups say physicians are obligated to warn their patients about guns”

I have a feeling that law-abiding gun owners know more about their guns than than any doctor than any doctor can tell them. That is a BS reason for asking this asinine and and intrusive question.

[Joe Marine 76]

Then: “Molon Labe!”

I have laid my life on the line for Our Nation for over twenty years in the Corps. I’m tired of this crap and I’d be whole heartedly happy to defend the US Constitution again.

Our County Sheriff knows me and he knows where I live.

[BobL]

I knew that I was playing with fire taking on a Marine...but I had to try. GOD BLESS YOU!!!

[Road Glide]

“Just lie.. and make their little big brother program a bunch of useless data.”

Yep.

Rather than bristle and become confrontational (which _will_ end up being recorded and eventually used against you), take the former first lady’s famouse advice to “just say no”.

When government itself has become unworthy of respect, consider it to be a conservative version of “taqiyaa”.

The real problem here is not when the good doctor asks you this question.
It when he asks your KIDS. How can you guarantee their response?

And what about teachers, etc. asking the same things?
What will happen to the information they gather?

[Joe Marine 76]

Thank you, Sir.

Here’s another tactic we might use:

“Doctor, does your Malpractice Insurance cover you for violating my Constitutional 4th Amendment Right, to wit:

“The right of people in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no WARRANTS shall issue, but upon PROBABLE CAUSE, supported by OATH or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and persons or things to be seized?”

“Doctor, do you possess a Law Enforcement Official’s Badge?”

“Doctor, do have a Warrant for probable cause signed under Oath or affirmation by a Magistrate to ask me if I have firearms in my home?”

[BobL]

Any time, we need you guys (to compensate for people like me - LOL).

At your point in life, I have nothing to say but GIVE THEM HELL!!! They are messing with a Marine and they will find out the consequences.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Where do these stats come from? I have never heard of a gun owner that I know of having any problems with their guns harming anyone."

Biased researchers who know what answer they want the data to fit, then only accept data that does. In this particular case, the "researcher" (a physician) included as data, shootings done by gang-bangers that were "associates" of those owning guns. Actual family situations of relative-shooting-relative are virtually non-existent.

The flaws in his research have long been found and pointed out, but he keeps bringing it up, despite that.

[tdscpa]

I have my doctor trained. Last fall I got him to write me an excuse letter for not wearing a seat-belt, because, in the event it was engaged, it would destroy my pacemaker. And last week, he wrote me an excuse to get me out of jury duty, for medically related problems.

I also appreciate that he used to pay me some good fees for tax services rendered before I retired.

I scratch his back, he checks my prostate.

[catnipman]

“So, can you tell me the four rules of firearm safety? No? Then you’ve proven yourself unqualified on the subject. Want to go shooting some time and learn?”

That’s the best one yet!