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Nuclear war over Rove's claims to work for Reagan; Gipper biographer says no
Washington Examiner ^ | 2-8-2013 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 02/08/2013 1:09:21 PM PST by smoothsailing

February 8, 2013

Nuclear war over Rove's claims to work for Reagan; Gipper biographer says no

Paul Bedard

The war of words between conservatives and former Bush advisor Karl Rove has gone nuclear, this time over Rove's claim that he worked for Ronald Reagan's 1980 campaign and on a Reagan advisory board.

The bottom line: While Rove told The O'Reilly Factor Thursday that he worked for the Gipper, Reagan's acclaimed biographer Craig Shirley says there's no evidence to back Rove up.

Worse: In an email Shirley is sending to conservative leaders, he reveals that Rove backed former President Ford in 1976 and in 1980 worked for former Texas governor Clements who didn't back Reagan until after he was nominated.

Shirley penned the book about Reagan's 1980 presidential campaign, Rendezvous with Destiny, and today said he confirmed his research about Rove with several former Reagan campaign aides...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bsrove; craigshirley; gope; karlrove; nevertrustrove; rinopurge; rove; rovetheliar; tokyorove; waronsarah
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To: entropy12
You ever hear of a 5th column?

We have one now with the GOP-E.

41 posted on 02/08/2013 2:56:43 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Defiant

AFAIK Rove is free to spend money on anybody he likes. This is still a free country. I have never sent any money to his PAC’s. How exactly you propose to stop Rove’s operation? Please pontificate on a practical method of getting rid of Rove. Just criticizing Rove on this forum will not get rid of Rove’s multi-million dollar operation & PAC’s.


42 posted on 02/08/2013 2:57:20 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: entropy12
"The real enemies are Obama-Reid-Pelosi-Clintons. "

Well, Buckwheat is pretty high on my list also, but I think that some of the worst enemies of Conservatism are in fact Rove and the RNC that gave us Romney and McCain, consequently ensuring defeat from the nights of the nomination. Any bunch of idiots that lets the other side choose our nominee are encouraging and ensuring total disaster. First, all "open" primaries must be punished, or at least not allowed to vote first. By the time conservative states have their primaries, the nomination is OVER, and the RINO has been nominated.

43 posted on 02/08/2013 2:59:25 PM PST by matthew fuller (Fast and Furious fizzled- Enter Sandy Hook.)
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To: Randy Larsen

Do you happen to have a link or two where Rove published a column in any important media criticizing governor Palin?

Which candidate was running against gov Palin whom Rove was supporting? In which election?


44 posted on 02/08/2013 3:00:16 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: entropy12
But I am astute enough to recognize Rove is not the real enemy. The real enemies are Obama-Reid-Pelosi-Clintons.

But do you not see an ENEMY within is much more of an potent enemy which can do so much more damage?

If you are a conservative and you side with this rino republican party you are further propping the rino agenda!

You and Rove ARE THE ENEMY TO CONSERVATIVES!

45 posted on 02/08/2013 3:00:58 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Graewoulf

The canary in the coal mine is Fox News themselves.

Surely they want their high ratings back.

If Fox can get back to higher ratings they will have to dump Rove and its RINO friendly ways.

Catastrophe is the only thing that will turn voters around. How that manifests is the question.

Until then it’s a love fest for big government as far as the eye can see.


46 posted on 02/08/2013 3:05:44 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: matthew fuller

I always though the primary voters gave us McCain & Romney. Are you mad at Rove because he gave them monetary help? Is there any realistic method you propose to stop people like Rove giving money to candidates of their choice?

I know exactly why Romney won nomination in 2012. He never received more than 30% of votes in primaries until it was clear he was inevitable. But the more conservative candidates had no unity. No one dropped out except Cain. Newt & Rick fought to the bitter end. That is why we got Romney. One on one, either Newt or Rick beats Mittens easily.


47 posted on 02/08/2013 3:05:49 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: sirchtruth

I will agree Rove is no friend of conservatives. So how exactly would you stop him from giving money to RINO’s?


48 posted on 02/08/2013 3:07:19 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Graewoulf

Late to this party, but I have thought about why the pubs don’t seem to mind losing so much. The more the left frightens us, the more MONEY we give the gop to try and fight the left. They keep us afraid so they can live in the style to which THEY have become accustomed.
They don’t want to win because if we start feeling like we are gaining, they lose even when they win. The elite power structure is a meld of both parties and their only goal is personal power. They don’t give a damn about you or me or anyone else.


49 posted on 02/08/2013 3:07:30 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: sirchtruth

If you bother to read all my posts on this thread it will be clear to you I never sent a dime to Rove or his PAC. So how am I helping Rove, GOPe or the RINO’s?


50 posted on 02/08/2013 3:11:12 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: smoothsailing

lol, I love that pic, smooth. Good article, too! :-)


51 posted on 02/08/2013 3:12:56 PM PST by Girlene
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To: entropy12

He criticized Palin on national TV. When you have that kind of power, every word you say gets picked up by somebody for good or bad. In rove’s case with Sarah, it was ALWAYS bad and he didn’t have to write it because someone else did it for him.


52 posted on 02/08/2013 3:15:46 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: entropy12
Just criticizing Rove on this forum will not get rid of Rove’s multi-million dollar operation & PAC’s.

Excuse me??? Forgive me for jumping into your BS, but please...the real focus here is your asinine assertion Rove is not an enemy to conservatives. Rove, like Bush is a rino and that's that, but for you to defend this ignorant prick as not the enemy is ignoring the huge problem conservatives face in this current political climate.

53 posted on 02/08/2013 3:16:08 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: smoothsailing

lol, I love that pic, smooth. Good article, too! :-)


54 posted on 02/08/2013 3:16:59 PM PST by Girlene
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To: entropy12
If you bother to read all my posts on this thread it will be clear to you I never sent a dime to Rove or his PAC. So how am I helping Rove, GOPe or the RINO’s?

Ok, I admit I have not read all your post, but that has NOTHING to do with your aforementioned recent post.

Let's get this straight right now:

Do you think Rove is an enemy of conservatives by his recent words and actions?

55 posted on 02/08/2013 3:20:30 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: entropy12

Google can help you but right after the 2008 Presidential election, Rove and the GOP elites started bashing Palin. Then the news media jumped in and finally the Romney team.

IF you were paying attention at the time, Sarah Palin got ambushed from friend and foe alike.

Rove has been the one who has single handedly help destroy the GOP.


56 posted on 02/08/2013 3:37:18 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: entropy12
Google Rove vs Palin.

Or read this one...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/26/karl-rove-attacks-his-fellow-republicans-sarah-palin-rick-perry-herman-cain-to-get-romney-in-white-house.html

57 posted on 02/08/2013 3:42:50 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: Girlene

Thanks, Girl! :o)


58 posted on 02/08/2013 3:46:50 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

The only difference between Obama and Rove is two letters P and Q. they both are liberal to the core and both are narcissists. I never cared for either Rove nor Obama.

Sean hannity had Rove on his radio program today, did not catch much as i was on the john deere with snowblower attachment. something about he was with Reagan and that the Crossroads PAC helped to get Rubio, Cruz and others elected. The other thing was he volunteered for Crossroads. I turned him off than. I had to focus on snow removal - getting ready for another snowfall of 6 inches on Sunday.


59 posted on 02/08/2013 3:49:43 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: smoothsailing

MR: “I’m a severe conservative.”

BO: “We do skeet shooting all the time.”

KR: “I heart Reagan.”


60 posted on 02/08/2013 3:55:42 PM PST by tnvol01 ("...answering that question w/ specificity uh, you know, is, is, uh above my pay grade.")
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