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The Root Cause of Gun Violence
American Spectator ^ | 2.6.13 | Peter Ferrara

Posted on 02/07/2013 11:06:10 PM PST by neverdem

If Obama & Co. are helpless to prevent gang warfare, what are they doing trying to disarm the law-abiding?

Aside from a few, brave, truth-tellers, all of the discussion in Washington boils down to one theme — Why More Power and Money Should Be Transferred from You to Me.

Of course, the sophists never say that directly. They always say it is for the children, or the poor, or the middle class, or the elderly, or the sick. But watch what they do, not what they say. In the end, every Washington Establishment initiative, proposal, or campaign is always aimed at the same result — power and money taken from you, to be given to them.

The money doesn’t have to go to them to be spent by them. It enhances their power if the money goes to them to distribute, and so determine who spends it. They will siphon off money enough for themselves in the process. But all the talk in Washington is really about who gets the power.

And so it is with Barack Obama’s traveling gun control salvation tour.

The Limits of Barack Obama’s Power

Whenever Barack Obama talks, he tells us that whatever he believes is just common sense. And what anyone who disagrees with him says...

--snip--

If we want to reduce gun violence further, more concealed carry permits are the answer, as John Lott demonstrated in his breakthrough book, More Guns, Less Crime. Mass school shootings would be further reduced by paying teachers bonuses to take concealed carry permit training, and bringing their concealed guns to school to be available for self-defense.

And extending welfare reform to all federal means tested welfare programs, requiring work by the able bodied for welfare, would begin to address fatherlessness as the root cause of gun violence.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrat; guncontrol; gunviolence; liberalism; nra; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/07/2013 11:06:19 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

2 posted on 02/07/2013 11:10:24 PM PST by re_nortex
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To: neverdem

bump


3 posted on 02/07/2013 11:27:48 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Demand Common Sense Nut Control.)
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To: re_nortex

That graphic is so effective... I’m sending it to every guy I know with a big email list.


4 posted on 02/07/2013 11:36:51 PM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: neverdem
If Obama & Co. are helpless to prevent gang warfare, what are they doing trying to disarm the law-abiding?

The incompetent and irresponsible should not be leading the productive and responsible.

5 posted on 02/08/2013 12:03:07 AM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: TigersEye

It is the appointed goal of the progressives (read fabians) to turn America from a we the people Constitutional Republic into a European socialist state ... George ‘the demon’ Soros has wet dreams over it, and that’s why he spends tens of millions promoting and paying the leftists to destroy the freedom and prosperity of We The People, making US helpless before evil, dependent upon the oligarchs who have proven they hate US as the sovereigns of this Republic. The democrips party hates the Americaq founded by the forefathers and they are working hard to destroy that Republic, OUR Republic.


6 posted on 02/08/2013 12:14:49 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: neverdem

This is what Newt sent me (good information):

Dear Friend,

Earlier this week we heard of another tragic argument for hearings on gun violence in Chicago.

While sitting in a Chicago park with a group of volleyball teammates on Tuesday, a 15 year old girl named Hadiya Pendleton was shot and killed.

Police said Hadiya, an honor student, was likely caught in the middle of gang turf wars. She was not affiliated with a gang herself.

Chances are, we might not even have heard of this sad event if Hadiya hadn’t performed with her high school band last week as part of President Obama’s inauguration festivities.

We might not have heard about it because, tragically, what happened to this innocent girl in Chicago is much too common.

Chicago has had at least 44 homicides already this year. Three days before Hadiya’s murder, seven people were killed in Chicago within 24 hours, the youngest a 16 year old boy. The mother of one of those shot had already lost her three other children to gun violence.

Last year, 7 year old Heaven Sutton was caught in a shooting and killed as she was selling candy and snow cones on the street outside her home.

In Chicago alone, more than 270 children have been killed since 2007. That’s almost 3 Newtowns per year in Chicago. Just the children.

Nationwide, a quarter of all gang-related killings strike children under the age of 18.

As I reported in this newsletter a few weeks ago, more than 500 people were killed in Chicago last year. That’s more than the number of coalition soldiers killed in Afghanistan in 2012.

In President Obama’s remarks on new gun control legislation in January, he pledged funding for “scientific or medical research into the causes of gun violence,” arguing, “We don’t benefit from ignorance. We don’t benefit from not knowing the science of this epidemic of violence.”

It may come as a surprise to President Obama, but the cause of the “epidemic” in places like Chicago with high gun violence is not a mystery.

It’s gangs.

Chicago police estimate that roughly 80 percent of homicides in Chicago are gang-related.

Approximately 100,000 gang members roam the streets of that city, spread among a few dozen gangs which engage in near-constant battle. They outnumber police officers 10 to 1.

Although the problem is worst in Chicago, the murder capital of the U.S., gang violence is a growing threat nationwide. The FBI estimated in 2011 that there are roughly 1.4 million active gang members in the U.S., a 40 percent increase from 2009.

They are responsible for “an average of 48 percent of violent crime in most jurisdictions, and much higher in others.”

This carnage is contributing to astonishing murder rates for black Americans especially. Only 13 percent of the U.S. population is black, but this group accounts for half all homicide victims. The homicide victimization rate for black males ages 18-24 is 19 times the national average.

But while gangs affect some populations disproportionately, they in fact show broad ethnic and racial variation.

There are Asian gangs, East African gangs, West African gangs, Caribbean gangs, Latin American gangs, Eastern European gangs, and white supremacist gangs.

Many are highly sophisticated criminal organizations.

Some work closely with Latin American drug cartels.

The FBI National Gang Threat Assessment reports gangs have established “wide-reaching drug networks; assisting in the smuggling of drugs, weapons, and illegal immigrants,” and increasingly engage in “alien smuggling, human trafficking, and prostitution” as well as “white-collar crime such as counterfeiting, identity theft, and mortgage fraud.”

Nearly all gang related homicides involve guns — mostly handguns.

The FBI reports that “typically firearms are acquired through illegal purchases; straw purchases via surrogates or middle-men, and thefts from individuals, vehicles, residences and commercial establishments.”

This suggests new gun laws are very unlikely to stop the flow of guns to gangs.

An eye-opening piece in Chicago Magazine last year detailed how local politicians protect and use the city’s gangs as their own personal political armies. The article described how elected officials and candidates for local office appeared before panels of gang representatives to answer the question “What can you give me?”

“The politicians, most eager to please, replied, ‘What do you want?’”

The story describes how the city’s politicians tip off gangs to police raids, help get members out of jail when they’re arrested, get records expunged, actively fight measures like surveillance cameras designed to curb gang activity, and even participate in the gangs’ profitable narcotics business.

This gives you some idea of how serious many Chicago politicians, with all their gun laws, are about stopping the gun violence.

In an interview on Telemundo this week, President Obama was asked about the 15 year old honor student, Hadiya.

The host, Jose Diaz Balart, said, “Back home, specifically in your hometown of Chicago, yesterday 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton was shot dead in a park. She was here in Washington to take part in your inaugural. Chicago has one of the strictest gun control laws, certainly in the state and across the country. Doesn’t this in a way give credence to the NRA’s point that more laws don’t necessarily equate to less gun violence?”

The President, who spent much of his adult life as a politician in Chicago, immediately replied: “Well, the problem is is that a huge proportion of those guns come in from outside Chicago...If you are just creating a bunch of pockets of gun laws without having...a unified, integrated system...it’s gonna be a lot harder for– an individual community, a single community, to protect itself from this kind of gun violence.”

No mention of the gangs that killed Hadiya, that commit 80 percent of homicides in Chicago, that manage some of the nation’s most sophisticated black market networks for drugs, prostitution, human trafficking, and indeed, guns.

How can President Obama, who has seen this calamity and corruption with his own eyes, have the heart to suggest that background checks and a toothless weapons ban have much at all to do with stopping tragedies like Hadiya’s?

Your Friend,
Newt


7 posted on 02/08/2013 12:29:25 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: MHGinTN

And it my goal to ridicule them into extinction or drive them into the sea. Atlantic or Pacific, it doesn’t matter to me.


8 posted on 02/08/2013 12:36:40 AM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: neverdem
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion . . . Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

John Adams is a signer of the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and our second President.

9 posted on 02/08/2013 12:56:30 AM PST by NoLibZone (It's time folks. It's time. Posting aint gonna cut it.)
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To: neverdem

In a nation full of wolves Obama and the democrats are making more sheep.. food for the wolves..

RAms, Ewes and lambs.. unarmed.. table fodder for the predators..
Democrats bleat and bleat.. and never learn anything..

Worse many maybe even MOST republicans are doing NOTHING..
The wolves will never be disarmed.. disarming the sheep is infantile maybe crazy..


10 posted on 02/08/2013 2:48:45 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: re_nortex

I love it.


11 posted on 02/08/2013 2:57:22 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: re_nortex

Do you have a source for that that speaks to methodology?


12 posted on 02/08/2013 3:45:23 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: neverdem
Here is "the Root Cause of All Violence".
13 posted on 02/08/2013 3:48:26 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: hosepipe
QUESTION: HOW MANY GUNS PROTECT THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF?

When I was active duty, there was a minimum of about 30 guns around the POTUS, established in 3 "rings of security".
Senators and Congressmen in active service were assigned a minimum of 2 guns (men) each, and, when retired were assigned one each.
They carried large magazines of ammo and a minimum of 3 magazines each.

So how many gun that the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF wants to outlaw, along with the magazines he wants to outlaw, does he have protecting him every day?

The United States Citizens KNOW that they're going to have to fight TYRANTS in their own government.
You cannot protect life, without the ability to take life.

While you are WAITING for the police to respond, someone could be losing their life.
All people of a responsible age should be armed.

As EternalVigilance reminded us:

Click here to read the 12 page pamphlet.


Let us NEVER FORGET THAT !

The Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro), ( the one guilty of TREASON ! ) has NO legitimate Social Security Number.
His father was NOT an immigrant to the United States. Barack Obama Sr. was a "Transient Alien" because he did NOT intend on residing in the United States permanently.
Barack Obama Sr. was a dual citizen of Great Britain and Kenya, and NEVER a United States Citizen.His mother could NOT impart U.S. citizen to her son, Barack Obama II, because she did NOT meet the legal requirements to do so,
at the time her son was born IN the Coast Provincial General Hospital, MOMBASA, KENYA at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.
Democrats knew this and tried to eliminate the "Natural Born Citizen" requirement at least 8 times BEFORE Obama won his election in 2008.

Obama is NOT a United States Citizen, and is NOT a LEGAL IMMIGRANT.
He has no VISA allowing him into this country.
Barack Hussein Obama II IS ILLEGAL !
He should be IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY, tried for TREASON, SENTENCED to death, and then have his body deported back to Kenya.
14 posted on 02/08/2013 4:40:04 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: re_nortex

That, my friend, is one INCREDIBLE graphic. Thank you. Got to save that one. Where did you come by it.....I’d like to “read more”.


15 posted on 02/08/2013 5:06:03 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: neverdem

The left is deliberately leaving guns in the hands of the violent criminal element while trying to take them away from normal, non-violent citizens.

Because they want the “downtrodden oppressed poor underclass” to rise up and take what they want from the “evil oppressor” people.


16 posted on 02/08/2013 5:15:14 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: re_nortex
It's a good graphic, now I need the sources.
Are these two graphics available, independently, from two different sites?
17 posted on 02/08/2013 5:48:47 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: re_nortex

Maybe ‘bammers can start a “spread the violence around” initiative.


18 posted on 02/08/2013 5:50:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SJSAMPLE

The problem is that the map on the left is an old election map.

American Specialty Ammo posted this exact thing and later retracted it once this was pointed out.


19 posted on 02/08/2013 6:33:01 AM PST by NOVACPA
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To: neverdem

The Root Cause of Gun Violence? Those in charge of the U.S. Government, (think Chicago as the crooks, rapist, murderers HOME BASE).

...The starting point to Chicago is the Mexican border. By the time the (crooks, rapist, murderers) reach Chicago you a proven criminal RE.ADY TO BE RELOCATED somewhere in the U.S.A.
Yes mister crook today is your lucky day. Apply today for a new and high paying career as a crooks, rapist, murderers. You already know we the government won’t bother you. Just check out msnbc nbc cbs abc bbc tbs.

If Obama & Co. are helpless to prevent gang warfare, what are they doing trying to disarm the law-abiding citizen?
answer... This will allow the gangs time to expand until YOU (the law-abiding citizen) shoot to many crooks, rapist, murderers.

That is when the crooks, rapist, murderers will REALLY call out(msnbccbsabcbbc m o u s e ect.) for total gun control. Then marital law will come.
The gangs already own the streets and you pesky God fearing Americans are getting in the way.

The government can and will use the crook’s to dis-arm you...
Now add DHS AND TSA & FEMA Corps workers that would be just as well equipped as our regular military (Regular military won’t be used because Washington now has it’ own.

WHY....what is all this (above) about.................Gun control


20 posted on 02/08/2013 6:37:30 AM PST by riverss
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To: NOVACPA
"The problem is that the map on the left is an old election map."

Unfortunate. I suspect that the meme presented is probably close to the truth. Perhaps this will inspire someone (John Lott?) to gather the statistics for a similar map. The info is certainly available from DOJ on-line.

21 posted on 02/08/2013 7:01:23 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Compeletly agree.

Despite the map being an old election map, I suspect it’s very close to the truth.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 7:09:33 AM PST by NOVACPA
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To: Wonder Warthog

Completely agree.

Despite the map being an old election map, I suspect it’s very close to the truth.


23 posted on 02/08/2013 7:09:50 AM PST by NOVACPA
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To: TigersEye

Guillotines from orbit; it’s the only way to be sure.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 7:41:33 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: re_nortex

Nice graphic, but worthless without sources and, as another posted said, methodology used for the “gun violence” map. It matches a bit too closely with the electoral map. Not saying it isn’t accurate, but without sourcing, it isn’t of much use.


25 posted on 02/08/2013 7:48:05 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Yosemitest

Here’s a couple of other ones from the only source of true wisdom:
“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” Jer. 17:9. “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.” Proverbs 9:10 Funny how our Founders knew all of this stuff. I wonder... were they wiser than our generation? Is it any wonder we are where we are at as a nation - that lawlessness abounds? How can it be anything other that what it is? We hate God and His righteous character. We’ll try anything, and I do mean anything, except His solutions. “Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest . Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Matt. 11:28-30 Spoken by the “Man of Sorrows” himself. His arms are still extended towards you America but your time is running out.


26 posted on 02/08/2013 8:27:49 AM PST by Lake Living
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To: Lake Living
Thank you.
Our founding fathers lived, studying the Bible.
Take a look at The Founding Fathers on Jesus, Christianity and the Bible and David Barton and the "WallBuilders".
I think you'll really like them.

For dressing up your comments, I recommend It'll help us old FReepers read your post. My eyes ain't what they use to be.

27 posted on 02/08/2013 9:32:47 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Sicon; SJSAMPLE; Wonder Warthog; onyx; FreedomPoster; Carry_Okie; Pontiac; MrB
Nice graphic, but worthless without sources and, as another posted said, methodology used for the “gun violence” map. It matches a bit too closely with the electoral map. Not saying it isn’t accurate, but without sourcing, it isn’t of much use.

Here's where the gun violence graphic first came to my attention. It was an eye-catching image posted by longtime and highly-trusted FReeper onyx in FReepathon thread XIV. The full URL to the image she posted is:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/23367_325623620891606_448023651_n.png

I have been unable, thus far, to find any further information about its origin and the underlying statistics (aside from the FBI citation) upon which the maps were based.

That said, the graphic certainly does pass the "smell test". Those regions that vote Democrat are typically low in weapon ownership due to draconian gun restrictions. Consequently, it is logical that the rates of gun-related violence would index higher since good citizens have little means to protect themselves against outlaws and thugs. Conversely, states such as Oklahoma where not a single county went for Obama in either 2008 or 2012 have high rates of lawful gun ownership and, of course, it follows that violence due to guns is very low. And since I'm here in Texas, I can attest, based on admittedly anecdotal evidence, that gun violence is nearly always restricted to the liberal areas, such as the heavily-Mexican, heavily-Democrat Rio Grande Valley. By way of contrast, the predominately Christian and Conservative city of Plano, Texas has a very high rate of gun ownership. Resultantly, it's the safest city in America.

Yes, it would be optimal to get the raw data behind the map (shown below as a courtesy to all to reexamine) but based upon all that I have seen and applying dispassionate logic, it does reflect reality in my opinion.


28 posted on 02/08/2013 9:52:43 AM PST by re_nortex
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To: NOVACPA

Too bad.
I’d love for it to be true.
Shouldn’t be hard to find a 2012 electoral map.


29 posted on 02/08/2013 10:54:52 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: MHGinTN

LOL I’m liking that idea. Might make a good video game even.


30 posted on 02/08/2013 1:36:09 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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