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Norquist: Immigration is good for the GOP
The Daily Caller ^ | 2/4/2013 | Neil Munro

Posted on 02/06/2013 3:31:57 PM PST by AuntB

Americans for Tax Reform head Grover Norquist says that large-scale immigration is good for America and the Republican Party — and that critics of easy immigration should get out of the way.

“There are a whole bunch of people who are listening to loud voices, some of whom claim to be Republican … talking about [employers] who didn’t fill out the paperwork, about going after [an immigrant's] aunt,” said Norquist, whose opposition to tax increases has made him popular among Republicans and a hate-figure among progressives.

Once advocates for tighter immigration are sidelined, the GOP will be able to win votes from Hispanics and other recent immigrants, he said.

“Removing that threat [of deportation] from millions of Americans will make it possible to have a conversation with [immigrants] about tax policy and spending, and all the other issues we have with legal Americans.”

But his critics are numerous and equally vehement.

“Grover is an extremely effective lobbyist … [and] the thing about Grover is that he has clients who make big money off of immigration,” said Roy Beck, founder of advocacy group NumbersUSA, a non-partisan group which helped derail previous efforts to expand immigration.

“Grover is going to do everything in his power to prevent America having a middle class … it appears he thinks oligarchy is a better way to go. … You can’t have a Republican Party when you have a voting base that is impoverished and needs government assistance.”

Norquist has been pushing to rewrite immigration policy for many years, and he’s got his arguments down cold.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/04/immigration-advocate-grover-norquist-a-gun-for-hire-doesnt-give-a-damn-about-american-workers/#ixzz2KAEraXpr


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; amnestypimp; grovernorquist; norquist; sayno2amnesty
Where you find Norquist, you find Rove, and Ralph Reed, and usually Newt Gingrich. ALL AMNESTY lovers!

Norquist and his cabal are who destroyed prop. 187 in Calif. and weakened the 1986 amnesty bill. He's a muslim convert who cares nothing about USA sovereignty. His anti tax regurgitation is just to hook you!

THEY are NOT conservatives! STop buying their lie!

1 posted on 02/06/2013 3:32:03 PM PST by AuntB
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To: AuntB

Sure, the hell with laws, just open the f’ing doors and let them all pour in. U.S.A. ...R.I.P. We’re literally watching our hastening demise.


2 posted on 02/06/2013 3:38:25 PM PST by toddausauras (FUBO x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)
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To: toddausauras

a lawless society will good for who?


3 posted on 02/06/2013 3:39:51 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: AuntB

Maybe Norky would like to explain how some 50 new democrat congressmen will be good for America.

That is what we’ll get with some 30 million new “citizens”.


4 posted on 02/06/2013 3:41:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: AuntB

What kind of ‘tax reform’ does Grover endorse? Because immigrants these days serve the purpose of super-charging Big Government, and tax dollars are the fuel it burns.


5 posted on 02/06/2013 3:43:07 PM PST by skeeter
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To: AuntB

Norquist is an a**hole and he is dangerous.


6 posted on 02/06/2013 3:45:29 PM PST by kabar
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To: toddausauras; HiJinx; Tennessee Nana; Liz; SandRat; TADSLOS; Pelham; cripplecreek; raybbr; ...

RELATED thread today:

Immigration’s Latest Ally: Christian Right
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2985899/posts?page=1
YEP! Ralph Reed!

FROM A POST a few days ago:

Rove and Reed have been running together for a long time along with Grover Norquist, all leaders in the ‘young republican’ movement together. It’s such a tangled mess. I’ve spent years trying to sort it out, but the one thing you always see is Rove, Reed, Norquist and often Gingrich supporting the same stuff and being in the same places. The fourth one of that cabal, Jack Abramoff, went to jail. The others should be there.

[snip](Must Read!)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/28/AR2005122801588.html?sub=new

The Fast Rise and Steep Fall of Jack Abramoff
How a Well-Connected Lobbyist Became the Center of a Far-Reaching Corruption Scandal

By Susan Schmidt and James V. Grimaldi
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, December 29, 2005; Page A01

A quarter of a century ago, Abramoff and anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist were fellow Young Turks of the Reagan revolution. They organized Massachusetts college campuses in the 1980 election — Abramoff while he was an undergraduate at Brandeis and Norquist at Harvard Business School — to help Ronald Reagan pull an upset in the state.

They moved to Washington, maneuvered to take over the College Republicans — at the time a sleepy establishment organization — and transformed it into a right-wing activist group. They were joined by Ralph Reed, an ambitious Georgian whose later Christian conversion would fuel his rise to national political prominence.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2984915/posts?page=107#107


7 posted on 02/06/2013 3:45:37 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: cripplecreek

“Maybe Norky would like to explain how some 50 new democrat congressmen will be good for America.”

Norky, I like that!~ lol..lot nicer than anything I ever called him. This man is exactly what is wrong with the GOP. He likes his muslim countries better than he ever liked the USA.


8 posted on 02/06/2013 3:48:01 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: kabar

“Norquist is an a**hole and he is dangerous.”

Indeed he is. I spent years researching this traitor.

It’s all here:
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=grover+norquist


9 posted on 02/06/2013 3:50:47 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Another fat slob white guy telling us we have to surrender to the invading hordes...

10 posted on 02/06/2013 3:50:52 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: skeeter

Illegals are government growth hormone.


11 posted on 02/06/2013 3:57:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly. So what is Norquist really after?


12 posted on 02/06/2013 3:58:26 PM PST by skeeter
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To: raybbr

My favorite Norquist quote:

“I started out as a right-winger, and when I retire I want to be a squishy middle-of-the-roader,” he jokes, chortling at the thought. Grover Norquist


13 posted on 02/06/2013 3:59:59 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Evidently these bastards are determined to force the patriation of 1/10 of the population of Mexico (and others) into the United States against the will of the people if it’s the last thing they do.


14 posted on 02/06/2013 4:00:37 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: AuntB

Norquist is one the favorite token ‘conservative’ by the MSM.

Ergo, he is NOT conservative.


15 posted on 02/06/2013 4:00:52 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: cripplecreek; AuntB
"Illegals are government growth hormone."

Oh!!! That's GOOD!!!

16 posted on 02/06/2013 4:04:30 PM PST by SierraWasp (Mark Twain said: "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled!!!)
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To: max americana; SpaceBar; skeeter; All

BTW, Norquist is founder of the Islamic Institute.

FRIDAY, MARCH 09, 2012
TheTownCrier

Newts main man Grover Norquist says Ending Birthright Citizenship is a Tax
Mr. Amnesty, Grover Norquist, the guy who Newt Gingrich regards as the “most innovative, creative, courageous and entrepreneurial leader and who has truly made a difference and truly changed American history” is at his illegal alien pandering again!

This week from National Journal:
Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist, who is most famous at the moment for waging a political war on government spending, said on Monday that ending automatic citizenship for babies born on U.S. soil would be a tax on having babies.(Illegal alien ANCHOR BABIES!)

“This is a tax on every child being born,” he said during a telephone conference call hosted by the public-policy group National Foundation for American Policy. “It solves no problems and instead creates all sorts of problems and costs in terms of Americans.”

One of these days, ‘conservatives’ will figure out that the illegal alien/Muslim loving Norquist and his Americans for Tax Reform is just a cover to fool them into following him down the amnesty/open border path!

A reader of this article on the Stein Report says it best:
“And we should add a “Dumb” tax for liberals and Grover Norquist.”

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=grover+norquist


17 posted on 02/06/2013 4:06:40 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

For those who don’t recognize yet what a threat libertarianism is to conservatism/America, and the left wing influence it has on the GOP.

This is the actual, 2004 text of the Libertarian Party Platform on immigration.

COMPLETE PLATFORM TEXT
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND CIVIL ORDER

IMMIGRATION:
“”The Issue: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new “Berlin Wall” which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government’s policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

The Principle: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

Solutions: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

Transitional Action: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.””


18 posted on 02/06/2013 4:06:43 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: SierraWasp

Think about it. 30 million illegals is enough to create some 50 new congressional districts with all the costs, pork, earmarks, entitlements, and liberal votes associated with them.


19 posted on 02/06/2013 4:10:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ansel12

“For those who don’t recognize yet what a threat libertarianism is to conservatism/America, and the left wing influence it has on the GOP.”

Ah, geezeeee...ansel12, you and I went through this YEARS ago! THIS isn’t about libertarianism!

It’s a 2004 platform you show...the LP changed it’s stand, and YOU KNOW IT, because I showed it to you several times...you’re just being a troll!

THE GOP IS THE Biggest THREAT TO THE GOP!

IF we had no welfare state, I would open up the damn border myself!

You are annoying.


20 posted on 02/06/2013 4:12:51 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
Hadn't heard that Ralph Reed was among that cabal.

I'm sad to say that I'm not hearing about all of the jobs American citizens would or could have if employers were forced to rid the companies of the illegals on their staff, and fill the, with those seeking employment.

During these time of high unemployment, high medical and education costs, raising taxes to cover all government costs, I'm shocked none of the conservatives even bother to bring ip those issues.

Either they are too stupid to connect the dots or they are being threatened by GOP leadership, or both!

21 posted on 02/06/2013 4:19:51 PM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: zerosix

“Either they are too stupid to connect the dots or they are being threatened by GOP leadership, or both!”

There’s one of the problems...Reed, Norquist, Rove...they ARE the GOP leadership! McConnell, Bonner dance to their tunes! Norquist WROTE Bush’s amnesty. Norquist got Abramoff and all the radical muslims into Bush’s white house.

What is it going to take to make people see this!!!


22 posted on 02/06/2013 4:23:48 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Stay out the Norquists.

23 posted on 02/06/2013 4:23:57 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

Oh, that is perfect. I’d never seen it before. Thanks, fishtank.


24 posted on 02/06/2013 4:28:33 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: fishtank

News Corp is publicly traded.
Where is this guy on the list?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=NWS+Major+Holders


25 posted on 02/06/2013 4:29:01 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: AuntB

That was strange, you seem to be anti-immigration but then defend and support the most pro-immigration people in America, the people who don’t even want to call it immigration, but simply want to open the borders period.

The libertarians have not changed their permanent position on immigration. It is exactly the same, so don’t lie to these people to promote immigration.

As you just said, you are open borders yourself “”IF we had no welfare state, I would open up the damn border myself!””

I didn’t know that, and have always been mystified by the fact that when I join what I think is an anti-immigration thread, you get hysterical and start attacking me. Now I understand.


26 posted on 02/06/2013 4:31:56 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: ansel12

Ansel, I’m not going to read your posts or reply to you again.
I have better ways to waste my time.


27 posted on 02/06/2013 4:33:40 PM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: skeeter; PGR88
Exactly. So what is Norquist really after?

I think FReeper PGR88 stumbled across it on another thread.

Complex things tend to collapse, so in the future, I see the US Gov’t working increasingly towards the ends of maintaining itself, at the expense of all else.

Its about maintaining government in the short term despite the fact they'll eventually bring about its collapse.
28 posted on 02/06/2013 4:34:29 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: AuntB

Has Norquist been right about anything in the past decade?


29 posted on 02/06/2013 4:34:40 PM PST by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: AuntB
IF we had no welfare state, I would open up the damn border myself!

Not me, I want to greatly reduce immigration, there is no reason to replace ourselves with an endless flood of the world's masses.

30 posted on 02/06/2013 4:42:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: cripplecreek
That is what we’ll get with some 30 million new “citizens”.

Add another 100 million to that number. When they are citizens, they can then bring up mom, dad, grandma, grandpa, et al, thanks to Ted Kennedy's Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. That one allows family members to "come on down" and enjoy America's taxpayer funded freebies. Those of retirement age can immediately go on Social Security without have to work those pesky 40 quarters. If they're crippled, they can immediately go on SSI. Even legals play this game.

Then the politicians will say that Social Security is going broke faster than expected and taxes will have to be raised.

In the meantime, those "new Americans" join the blacks on the Democratic Plantation and vote forever for their benefactors.

Goodbye America, as we have known it.

31 posted on 02/06/2013 4:50:52 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: AuntB
I firmly believe there some kind of mind control device inside that beltway. EVERYBODY who goes inside and stays more than a week becomes zombiefied.


32 posted on 02/06/2013 4:58:56 PM PST by Clock King
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To: AuntB
"large-scale immigration is good for America and the Republican Party — and that critics of easy immigration should get out of the way"

When these assholes decide to do the "Big Tent Routine", albeit for sex deviates, child murderers, criminals (including Illegal Immigrants), and 4th generation inner-city tribal parasites, you can see that there is NO DIFFERENCE in the "2 Parties"; ie, they just pander for votes to keep them in Power and keep them employed, on the backs of TAXPAYERS.

33 posted on 02/06/2013 5:01:48 PM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: AuntB

BTTT


34 posted on 02/06/2013 8:13:07 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: AuntB

Hugh Hewitt is part of that same cabal.


35 posted on 02/06/2013 8:33:41 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, it's not just for Democrats anymore.)
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To: AuntB
Once advocates for tighter immigration are sidelined, the GOP will be able to win votes from Hispanics and other recent immigrants, he said.

BS!!!!!

There is NO evidence to prove this at all. And, frankly, it's offensive to label all of them as "Hispanic".

As long as the welfare state keeps giving, they'll vote for the guy that does the handing out.

And we are against ILLEGAL immigration. What part of that word don't idiots like Norky, Newty, Rovey and Reedy not get?

36 posted on 02/06/2013 8:39:39 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: Fledermaus

And don’t forget these were the same type of morons that, in 1986, told us a small amnesty would “stop all illegal immigration for the future” and “guarantee employers do not hire illegals” with the useless I-9 form.

Has any business ever been audited on the I-9 form? None to my knowledge and I’ve worked at luxury hotels!


37 posted on 02/06/2013 8:43:51 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: Fledermaus

exactly!!


38 posted on 02/06/2013 8:44:26 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: AuntB; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
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39 posted on 02/06/2013 8:50:51 PM PST by HiJinx (The New Year is here; to all Men Good Cheer. (Last one out, turn out the lights.))
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To: AuntB; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Sez Who? Ping!

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40 posted on 02/06/2013 8:51:05 PM PST by HiJinx (The New Year is here; to all Men Good Cheer. (Last one out, turn out the lights.))
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To: AuntB; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
Sez Who? Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related articles.


41 posted on 02/06/2013 8:52:15 PM PST by HiJinx (The New Year is here; to all Men Good Cheer. (Last one out, turn out the lights.))
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To: AuntB

Norquist is a Republican, and a newly cognizant member of the parent organization, The Democrat Party.


42 posted on 02/07/2013 5:52:22 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: AuntB

Illegal invaders are not immigrants. The confused thinking on “immigration” makes for profound stupidity, as expressed here by Norquist.


43 posted on 02/07/2013 9:01:47 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: arthurus

Norquist is part of the Trans-Party Muslim Mafia. He may not be a Muslim himself, but he’s in their pay.


44 posted on 02/07/2013 12:38:04 PM PST by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
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To: HiJinx

Norquist is an A$$ And ALWAYS will be, Just like David Horowitz Says!


45 posted on 02/07/2013 4:22:19 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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