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Court Says New York Times Doesn't Need To Know Exactly Who Owns Guns
Forbes ^ | 2/05/2013 | Kashmir Hill

Posted on 02/05/2013 11:52:24 PM PST by neverdem

In December, a New York newspaper inspired a heated debate about transparency of public records after it published a (somewhat inaccurate) interactive map showing where all the gun owners in its community lived. After much criticism, a few death threats, and some legal concerns, the newspaper pulled the map down. This week, there’s an interesting development in the ongoing saga as to whether we should be able to map-stalk people with guns. A New York appellate court ruled in a different case that the NYPD doesn’t need to provide the New York Times with the addresses of gun owners because of privacy and safety concerns.

Interesting, the court dives headlong into questions of the nature of the data and how it’s provided, ruling that even though the information is public, it shouldn’t be overly public. “The fact that Penal Law § 400.00(5) makes the name and address of a handgun license holder ‘a public record’ is not dispositive of whether respondent can assert the privacy and safety exemptions to FOIL (Freedom of Information Law) disclosure, especially when petitioners seek the names and addresses in electronic form,” wrote the court in its opinion...

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; privacy; secondamendment; technology

1 posted on 02/05/2013 11:52:37 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

that`s the name of that game


2 posted on 02/06/2013 12:01:27 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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To: neverdem
Would the NYT try to find the names of all registered pedophiles? NO, they would consider that a violation of privacy... And probably half their staff would be on that list...
3 posted on 02/06/2013 12:05:46 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
New York's 'SAFE' Act: The 'Rape' of the Second Amendment

Flash Mob Mayhem: Violent Groups Of Teens Leave NYC Businesses In Ruins

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

4 posted on 02/06/2013 12:11:19 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: cyborg; Clemenza; Cacique; NYCVirago; The Mayor; Darksheare; hellinahandcart; Chode; ...
New York's 'SAFE' Act: The 'Rape' of the Second Amendment

Flash Mob Mayhem: Violent Groups Of Teens Leave NYC Businesses In Ruins

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

5 posted on 02/06/2013 12:12:17 AM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Cowboy Bob

LOL! A good comment to send to them. They wouldn’t publish or ask for such a list.


7 posted on 02/06/2013 12:18:38 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: neverdem

By all means lets tell the criminals where they can steal a gun. I remember when they stopped publishing vacation and honeymoon plans in the paper because of criminal use of the information.


8 posted on 02/06/2013 12:28:41 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: neverdem

NYPD doesn’t need to know, either.


9 posted on 02/06/2013 1:12:09 AM PST by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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To: neverdem; xzins

This holding would appear to set up an invasion of privacy lawsuit by everyone whose names was published by that newspaper against the newspaper and whoever provided the names to them.

This could easily bankrupt the paper if enough people filed suit.

If my name were published I would file a small claims court suit for the maximum allowable amount. Imagine if everyone did that? How many names did they publish? Multiply that by $7500. That should teach them a lesson.


10 posted on 02/06/2013 2:22:18 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: neverdem
These gun owner maps by the MSM are nothing but pure intimidation. Imagine the same newspaper pushing a map of where all the abortion clinics are located. Why, it is after all public information. It would never happen.

These papers need to be sued out of existence for liability for any crimes perpetrated against the owners of the targeted homes.

11 posted on 02/06/2013 4:32:43 AM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: neverdem

Silly, silly people you are....

If you don’t know who has the guns.................

JUST HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THEM AWAY??


12 posted on 02/06/2013 5:02:14 AM PST by Flintlock (TRUTH--It's the new hate speach.)
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To: neverdem

I highly disagree that the information on gun registrations is public information at all. The FOIA laws were made to force disclosure of information pertaining to public employees, officials and their activities in their official capacities.

The government requiring an individual citizen to provide information to them in order to obtain legal (even constitutionally protected) rights to comply with the government mandated rules and then distributing that information without the individuals express permission is a blatant invasion of privacy.

When a person applies for a security clearance, they are forced to provide personal and sometimes embarrassing information about themselves, is that anyone else’s business and should a publication be able to demand that type of information be exposed?The use of the gun owners information is nothing more that an attempt to intimidate citizens and keep them from exercising their rights under the law.


14 posted on 02/06/2013 5:37:08 AM PST by Bob Buchholz
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To: neverdem

How about a list of those getting abortions?


15 posted on 02/06/2013 6:54:00 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 02/06/2013 8:40:06 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

Pong!


17 posted on 02/07/2013 1:58:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: neverdem

I can see how this will go: The cops, jail guards and other government types will exempt their addresses from the FOI requests, and then allow John Q. Publics’ addresses to be posted as a bone to their pals at the papers.


18 posted on 02/07/2013 2:04:43 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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