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Senate to introduce gun control bill without assault weapons ban
American Thinker ^ | February 4, 2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 02/04/2013 2:49:17 PM PST by neverdem

If a ban can't pass the Senate, it certainly won't pass in the House. Consider the assault weapons ban a dead issue, while the ammunition limit is alive and well.

Wall Street Journal:

Senate Democratic leaders expect a gun bill to move to the Senate floor that includes most of the proposals backed by President Barack Obama, with the notable exception of a ban on military-style, semiautomatic weapons, a top aide to Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada said.

The bill would likely seek to limit the capacity of ammunition magazines; expand background checks to include sales at gun shows and other private transactions; and require better record keeping to keep guns out of the hands of those with mental illnesses. It would also try to curb gun sales in states with more relaxed gun laws to buyers in states with stricter laws.

But the strategy outline also reflects a growing sense within Democratic ranks that some of the president's most ambitious goals-particularly the call for new bans on certain types of military-style guns often described as assault weapons-may be unrealistic, the Reid aide said.

The goal is to get the bill to the Senate floor next month, at which point lawmakers could then seek to amend the legislation by adding a ban on certain semiautomatic weapons or other provisions, the aide said.

The details provide the first snapshot of how Senate Democrats plan to move forward on major gun legislation in coming weeks...


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: neverdem

This BS is starting to get on my nerves. Rick Moran is not a journalist. Rick Moran isn’t even a blogger. He’s what I call a bookends scribbler. Write an opening paragraph, excerpt someone else’s work for the major portion of your “article” and then write a couple of closing paragraphs.

Hell, anybody could do that.

Hope they don’t pay him very much.


41 posted on 02/04/2013 3:48:07 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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Mag on the left, clip on the right...


42 posted on 02/04/2013 3:50:46 PM PST by mcmuffin (Freedom's On The March - Wave Goodbye!)
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To: driftdiver
I got notice today that my PINK Ruger 22 LR will be delivered to the gun store sometime this week. I have a 25 magazine for it. I HAVE NO CARTRIDGES YET but they are ordered.

I plan to put the PINK 22 lr on a pink marble topped coffee table for decoration. It should make for interesting conversation if anyone comes to visit. :o)

43 posted on 02/04/2013 3:54:41 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: driftdiver

Is Obama this keyed up with hubris? I don’t think so, but perhaps he is. What was going on that he’d want to waste all this political capital and that the Dems would go along with him knowing this is a political third rail?

Benghazi or something else that we haven’t caught on to yet?


44 posted on 02/04/2013 3:56:01 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BlueStateMadness

That drives me crazy. Thanks for straightening these people out


45 posted on 02/04/2013 3:56:29 PM PST by RIGHTWING WACKO FROM MASS. (Better to have and not need than to need and not have...my theory on gun control)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Lancey Howard

I’ll be calling Toomey’s and Casey’s offices, tomorrow, and registering my opinion. Again. Toomey’s good; Casey’s crap on this AWB.


46 posted on 02/04/2013 4:02:17 PM PST by Carriage Hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. The 2nd Amendment is the First Human Right.)
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To: neverdem

What they’re really after is the universal background check. The Feds have illegally been ignoring the prohibition on maintaining a database of gun owners. No one who has any awareness of this issue thinks that the universal background check is to prevent crime. It is to register guns. And if the New York (Dinkins) and California (Lockyer) registration/confiscation episodes are any indication, you can bet real money that confiscation would be next.


47 posted on 02/04/2013 4:05:19 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: neverdem

48 posted on 02/04/2013 4:05:57 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: mcmuffin
I heard on CNN that the “clip” fits into the “Mag” /S

MOLON LABE

I will stay with my S&W .357 wheel gun, and my Ruger LC9 with a nice Mag full of HP 9mm. Thank you very much, I can still get Ammo.....

49 posted on 02/04/2013 4:09:49 PM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416)
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To: TheRhinelander

Pulleeezzzeee........ The damn things are magazines. If we are going to debate parts and pieces of firearms at least use the correct terminology. Don’t buy into the crap the liberal media spews.


50 posted on 02/04/2013 4:10:51 PM PST by Flint
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To: neverdem
We are a SCOTUS heart attack away from losing the 2nd amendment. And I hope all of the conservative “crusaders” who stayed home on election night rather than voting for that Northeastern Rino remember that too. There are now four Liberal radicals on the court. One more radical justice and they could rule the 2nd amendment only applies to the “Militia.” This was the most important election in our history, and granted Romney is quite a bit more Liberal than I would prefer, he was a good honest man who in my opinion, would have made a good President.
51 posted on 02/04/2013 4:12:14 PM PST by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: neverdem

Baby steps.

F U B O!


52 posted on 02/04/2013 4:20:23 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: neverdem

More bait and switch.


53 posted on 02/04/2013 4:28:55 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: neverdem

So if I want to give my rifle to my nephew I have to go to a licensed gun dealer and pay to give it away?


54 posted on 02/04/2013 4:52:04 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: longtermmemmory
This is about registration.

Damn right. And registration ALWAYS leads to confiscation at some point in time. History shows the proof of this. But in a way, this is a good thing for them to try. Keep the issue boiling at a steady simmer for our side (which includes loads of democrats in some very pro gun states. Keep the reality that the RAT's are gun grabbers front and center in the minds of the people right up till the 2014 election cycle. Then hopefully we'll see a repeat of the 1994 election and gain a firmer grip on the House and take back the Senate. Then, with a veto proof majority we can keep the usurper on the bench till we can take over the Oval, too.

55 posted on 02/04/2013 4:53:31 PM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: neverdem

So, whoever was saying the Feinstein Assault Weapons ban was a decoy is obviously the winner...


56 posted on 02/04/2013 4:54:47 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: neverdem
Apparently they don't get it because they are spending all their time listening to themselves and the media who just repeat what they tell them. I don't think they've taken any interest in listening to real gun owners... the ones who will end their careers next election.


======================= We all know the "assault weapons ban" is nothing short of idiocy and has been proven a waste of time. Same with the magazine bans. Anyone who supports them has questionable motives and every gun owner see's it this way. Anyone who supports these bans is dishonest to say the least.
We keep hearing that "most gun owners support stronger background checks". Well again, BS; and here is why: We know they can't be trusted to keep it honest and simple. We know THEY control the decisions on who gets a green light and who doesn't... and they can change the requirements anytime they like. We also know it's nothing more than disguised registration.
So, what would I support?
- Let us take weapons to an FFL for checks. this does a few good things for sellers and buyers. It gives the seller some peace of mind that the buyer isn't a felon and it gives the buyer the opportunity to check and make sure the gun isn't stolen. Meeting at a gun shop also reduces your risk of getting jacked by some craigslist thug in a dark parking lot. The problem is, the possible risks are just not worth it.
First, it's yet another way for FFL's to rape us for 40 bucks every time we sell a 100 dollar rifle just like they do when they sign for a UPS package for us. It pi#@$es us off!
Second, we don't trust government to purge the record of the names, SSN's and firearm serial numbers as soon as the check is complete. They have proven time and again that they cannot be trusted and cannot keep their promises. We also know THEY control the guidelines for approving the sale. Hell, all they would have to do is classify nail-biters as a public risk (like they already have for Tea Party conservatives) and you are done, no guns for you.
Also, the arbitration process for getting OFF the list is a joke, it can't be done... ask anyone who has tried. It doesn't matter if it's accidental, justified or not.

See, I can tell them what sort of measures I would support, but in the same breath it is important to let them know it can never come to pass because they cannot be trusted; and that's the very reason the Constitution prohibits them from meddling with this right to begin with.

57 posted on 02/04/2013 5:16:56 PM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: DuncanWaring
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58 posted on 02/04/2013 5:18:16 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: 3Fingas

Why is the SERIAL NUMBER and MODEL NUMBER needed for a background check? It seems to me that you should ONLY check the person and be done with it. Nothing is gained with serial and model numbers,UNLESS someone is trying to build up a database for later confiscation (which, of course, our government denies they want to do)

If someone is so unstable they cannot own a gun, why are they still on the street? (with access to cars,gasoline,swords,knives,etc)


59 posted on 02/04/2013 5:29:59 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: EXCH54FE

I heard on CNN that the “clip” fits into the “Mag” /S

That’s true.You just take an adapter that connects the stripper clip to the magazine and push down on the bullets in the stripper clip until the magazine is loaded.Its Great.

Sure beats loading those mags one round at a time.


60 posted on 02/04/2013 5:46:41 PM PST by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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