Jim Nabors and How Liberalism May Win Its Way to Defeat

Townhall.com ^ | February 2, 2013 | Kurt Schlichter

[Ransomed]

“The author seems to assume that collectivists come to a point where they will quit advancing their endgame.”

I agree. If there will always be groups that reject ‘gay marriage’, the state will always be there to punish them when they reject whatever impossibility the state is calling marriage at the time. I just don’t see them putting down that whip. They would only put it down if everyone eventually accepts ‘gay marriage’, and for many religious groups this will never happen.

The major reason ‘gay marriage’ is such an issue is because the state has the ability to punish those who disagree with the definition it uses to recognize the institution.

Freegards

[RatRipper]

Gays can celebrate publicly their lifestyle and “marriages all they want. The bottom line is that they are really quite miserable and unhappy.

I agree, but let me recast that statement in a more general fashion:

Liberals, with the unwavering support of the MSM, have learned to "win" arguments in the arena of public discourse. That is a far cry from saying that their "winning arguments" are correct and make our nation a better place. Quite the opposite. Many of their "winning arguments" will ultimately lead to failure by having a high cost and devastating consequences for our society and nation.

The most infuriating truth is that, again with the unfailing support of the MSM, liberals will be able to successfully blame Republicans for massive problems that liberals really caused. We can only hope that disengaged, low-information voters will start listening to the correct message and assign blame where it really resides: with liberal/progressives.

[trebb]

Yep - and we don't remember hearing him getting in our faces about it.

[srmorton]

Darwin rightly observed that unless a trait aids in the propagation of a species, nature has a way of abolishing it.

You are absolutely correct! I have a Masters in Biology and have been teaching it for almost 30 years. It has always been completely illogical to me that "gayness" could be anything other than a choice. A gene for homosexuality would not have been "selected for" because, until the advent of modern fertility methods, two homosexuals could not produce a child.

[adorno]

It was Bill Clinton, that wily Arkansas politician, who figured out what was remarkably clear to everyone else except his fellow liberals – that criminals were scumbags and the political price of excusing their depredations was not even remotely worth paying.

I have a problem with that statement.

As somebody with a criminal mind himself, Clinton never gave a damn about anybody, and a criminal was just somebody standing in his way, and authorizing an execution was one more step towards realizing his ambitions.

The road to achieving power, is littered with Clinton's victims.

Clinton is the last person to be held up as a crime-fighting politician. He was just as much a criminal as those he authorized to be put to death.

[j_guru]

Well goooooolllllll-laaaaay!

[txrangerette]

Well, to me, that’s exactly what the statement you have a problem with, said. Using different words but meaning the same thing. Clinton was entirely a politician, not a crime fighter in the least, is what the statement said to me when I read it. So when I read yours, it served to reinforce that point, rather than “correct” the statement.

[adorno]

How Liberalism May Win Its Way to Defeat

Sorry, but, liberalism is assured of many victories for many or most future elections.

Crime is not what drives liberals to vote for or against a politicain.

Gay rights is also not the biggest reason that liberals vote for their "favorite" politicians.

Even the right to abortions, is not why liberals vote for their favorite politicians.

What drives people to vote for liberals, is the government funding for the easy and lazy lifestyles that many prefer. When government is in the business of handouts and "free" benefits, at least half of the voters will jump at the opportunity to get their share.

Liberalism is no longer about ideals or the rights of some downtrodden groups. Liberalism nowadays, is about, creating dependency, to assure that, those dependent voters continue electing liberals to power, and power is the only thing that liberal leaders care about, and power is the only means by which they can implement their agenda.

The liberal agenda will have politicians pretending to care about gays and women and blacks and Hispanics and crime and guns, and anything else which will bring them votes. But, those concerns are about as phony as a trillion dollar coin, and it's all intended to gain power. It's the "win at any cost" mantra having come to fruition.

The acceptance of gays everywhere, won't change the fact that, we have created a society where at least half the people have come to depend on government for some sort of government benefit or some "free stuff" from government. That is going to be hard to overcome, and gay acceptance into any political party has nothing to do with winning or losing elections for liberals.

[Cvengr]

It was Richard Cox who was gay (that’s right, Dick Cox), who was the 2nd actor on Bewitched to play the role of Elizabeth Montgomery’s husband, Darren.

[Dartman]

I was at a Bob Hope USO show in Vietnam ...

Did you see John Kerry? He served there, you know.

[junta]

Gays might be the last hurrah for white libs, let us be honest the down trodden non-whites and their race politics are not fetching in the least. Beyond the mesiah mulatto teleprompter actor the bench is thin.

[adorno]

You may be right about most of my statement being, basically, a re-wording of the author’s comments, but...

when reading that part about “criminals were scumbags”, I felt that the author should have first defined Clinton as being one of those scumbags. But, the author makes is sound like Clinton was doing the right thing as opposed to his fellow liberals.

[Venturer]

Why be surprised when this old pole smoker announces his gay marriage.

Everyone knew he was a fag for years.It was no surprise.

Half of our entertainers are queer, men and women.Hollywood has been a queer and pedophile town since the 20’s.

The only actors and actress’s who make it in that town without laying down on the job are the relatives of others. Nepotism is rampant.

[Terry Mross]

Gomer was lucking he had Sgt Carter instead of R. Lee Ermy. “I’m gonna’ cut your ......”

[PJ-Comix]

Actually I thought Gomer Pyle had married Rock Hudson in Las Vegas many years ago.

[Drew68]

when reading that part about “criminals were scumbags”, I felt that the author should have first defined Clinton as being one of those scumbags. But, the author makes is sound like Clinton was doing the right thing as opposed to his fellow liberals.

That wasn't the point of this article.

The author's only point was that in carrying out an execution during his campaign, Clinton neutralized the "Democrats are soft on crime" charge that Republicans had so successfully used in the past against them, taking it off the table.

Likewise, conservatives shrugging their shoulders over Gomer Pyle's gay marriage is hurting the ability for Democrats to utilize the "Republicans hate gays" charge.

[elcid1970]

Nooooo!!! How could I see Jean F’in Kerry while I was in Vietnam while he was on all those secret missions to Cambodia?

And anyway, Kerry served his four friggin months in 1969. I saw the Road Show in Christmas 1971, the same year Kerry hurled his medals (a lie), testified before Congress & called those of us who were still there war criminals & babykillers. I didn’t hear of Kerry at the time but I knew about the VVAW & their commie propaganda. What had me seething then as now was Jane Fonda & her treasonous trips to Hanoi & isn’t it a crying shame there are homeless vets while this shameless b!tch is living large I’d better shut up now before I get banned!

FWIW, I flew helicopters & got close to the `fence’ just once (FB Katum), it was like the surface of the moon looking into Cambodia that place is godforsaken to this day.

[Dartman]

Thanks for reminding me of Hanoi Jane. I had almost forgotten about her for a couple of minutes. :)

[scrabblehack]

2nd one - Dick Sargent was. So far as I know Dick York was not.

[shoff]

I agree with the swinging pendulum political theory. Also that it will take pain to reverse its swing this time with the momentum built up from freebees. I know even if it meant not seeing liberals pay the price I would fight losing of our rights from the left or right. You do bring up an interesting point that when the SHTF voters might select a guy that promises to make the trains run on time, or revenge on whatever group can be blamed.