Posted on 01/31/2013 9:15:57 PM PST by Rig4Dive
Yep, thats what I meant...You’ll take the “ride”...Because they are the one’s in control...Sounds to me like another example of a Law Enforment professional taking it a little too far, when it really didn’t need to...
I’ve been on the receiving end of a similar incident, and my ability to be cool under pressure, never raised my voice, never said anything personal or declarative to the officer(s) making the contact with me, they just didn’t like how cool I was, and took offense at my not taking their bait to become unglued at their provocation...Which is something that did come out in court, and on the video tapes...The judge threw whatever nonsense (his words) the PD and the DA came up with on me and paid me an exhorbant amount of reparation...
When it came to their positions in that department, I was the bigger person in the deal and told the judge that I would rather have them still on the job, than on the streets, not learning the lesson...
Not every civilian is a boogy-man...But I kinda heard in some academies that that IS taught to the rookies...
How unfortunate for those communities that hire these graduates...
Agreed. After doing some digging here and there about the story it does seem he’s “pimping” his blog.
Thanks for the additional info.
Not saying it didn’t happen, just suspicious of the sign-up date, is all.
Sometimes people sign on to post inflammatory articles and troll for Freeper reactions, which then get reposted to troll sites.
It is hard to believe that Americans, in some places in the USA, are now considered CRIMINALS in their own homes.
The fears of 1968 are taking fruit.
And by the way: DHS calls the 7000 AR-15s they just purchased "Personal Defense Rifles"..so, obviously, there's no such thing as an "AR-15 Assault Rifle" anymore...
Big Sis Napolitano and FedGov says so...I'm just sayin'...
“every civilian”
Well, that’s your problem right there.
I’m glad that this was posted here at 12:15 A.M. this morning :)
Just searched Google News... of all news media, worldwide, it shows only 3 local upstate New York articles covering this, and it’s close to four weeks since he was arrested.
This is a major 2nd amendment story that needs national attention. New York’s gun laws are going to make felons out of ordinary Americans.
Have you ever looked at a printed volume of gun laws of just the States themselves, let alone Federal law? It’s hundreds of pages of small print legalese. . . thousands upon thousands of state, county, and city ordinances that could make you a criminal: misdemeanors and felonies for inadvertently breaking them. It doesn’t even have current laws because it takes them over a year to revise and print it with new laws passed every year.
Re: Thread poster’s sign-up-date
Yeah, that’s why after it was posted I searched the internet for over 3 hours before posting onto this thread. From what I found, I think this needs to go national.
It’s gotten the attention of gun rights blogs but not any major media yet.
Well if anything good can come from this I hope it helps solidify the military’s disdain for our anti constitutional government.
I didn’t think about the implications. How many NYers are now felons overnite?
“...I think this needs to go national....but not any major media yet....”
It will. Give a few days, Email it to Fox News, Rush, Bill O Reilly, Hannity, Levin, Savage, etc, and the radio circuit.
“Major media” probably won’t go big with it because it doesn’t fit the agenda; but if our folks make a big enough stink about it, it will get out there.
I grew up and lived in New York city until two months ago where I am now in the process of moving to Pennsylvania. Best thing I ever did. I tell people flat out NYC is now run under pure 1000% despotism as will the rest of New York pretty soon.
To give you an idea how bad it is here now, think of North Korea but without the starvation and prison camps. Everything else is exactly the same. One despot rules everything, makes decisions about every single aspect of your life. Even decides how much money you will keep which at any time can be taken by the despot and if you can even have a business. Even decides what you will eat and how and what you can do in your private life. Oh yes, and if you want to donate food to the homeless, forget about it because the despot will confiscate it.
This is EXACTLY why we have the 2nd Amendment! People think tyranny can’t happen in this country? They should check out NYC and think again.
Next question why do politicians lie when they take the oath of office?
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the
Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and
domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I
take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of
evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office
on which I am about to enter: So help me God."
It comes to me that the politicians henchmen don't much mind violating the citizens rights as long as they themselves are exempt from such laws..
I think we now know why the politicians are exempting the police from the ridiculous laws that violate our rights under the constitution...
Then it is an Ex Post Facto law, specifically prohibited to the States in the unamended [federal] Constitution; this is in addition to being violative of the Second Amendment.
I should like to see some trifecta action here 18 USC 241, 18 USC 242, 42 USC 1983 levied against both the implementers (PD, DA, Judges upholding the invalid law, individual officers) and the specifiers (those passing the bill: legislature & governor).
Something feels wrong. I hope it is all above board:
Nathan Haddad’s legal fund
http://www.gofundme.com/1tkukc
Here is a newspaper story from his area:
http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20130107/NEWS07/701079944
I have just about had it with the takeover of america by communist believing thieves and the income tax and all other BS that goes along with them. This country will be free once again....soon.
and that "...existing law...already limited magazine capacity to ten rounds."
and "(8) Such person possesses a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree is a class D felony."
Jefferson County Sheriff's Department (JCSO) - Facebook statement from yesterday
There has been a lot of interest in a recent JCSO arrest for criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree, which, contrary to what some are assuming, was unrelated to the NYSAFE Act, made before the NYSAFE Act existed, and before any details of the NYSAFE Act were known to the public or the law enforcement community.
Keep in mind an investigating agency has the advantage of knowing all of the facets of an incident, rather than just what you may have seen in the media. And as with any arrest, a defendant is given some privacy as well, which is why the public gets limited information.
As you have seen and read, the NYSAFE Act dropped magazine capacity from ten rounds to seven, meaning the existing law {PL §265.02 sub 8} already limited magazine capacity to ten rounds. PL §265.02(8) has been on the books, unchanged, in excess of 12 years:
§ 265.02 Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree. A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree when:
(8) Such person possesses a large capacity ammunition feeding device. Criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree is a class D felony.
Definition:
23. "Large capacity ammunition feeding device" means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device, manufactured after September thirteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four, that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than ten rounds of ammunition; provided, however, that such term does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jefferson-County-Sheriffs-Office/317908998223209
The latest reply to the JCSO statement on Facebook is interesting. . .
Charlie Rainey:
First let me say I’m a HUGE supporter of the Law Enforcement Community. You fine people do a job everyday, that is in many ways more dangerous than my job in the Infantry. At least as an Infantry Soldier I know where my enemy is and I am prepared to fight them. For LEOs every stop could be their last, no matter how routine.
That being said, I have a question? If that Soldier had his 30 round magazines in his IOTV/IBA/Plate Carrier, in his trunk, next to his Assualt Pack and ACH/MCH/Helmet, would you still have made the arrest and charged him?
Being as that EVERY unit I have been in for the last 10 years DOES NOT allow you to store your gear at work, rather you must keep them at home, how is a Soldier supposed to transport his gear to and from work? For example: I have no less than 25 30 round Magazines in my possession right now, in my home, IN GERMANY! Yet I can not be charged with a crime because I am protected under a Status of Forces Agreement.
Why is there not an exception to this already UNconstitutional law, for Active, Reserve, and National Guard Service Members?
Ridiculous! Way to go NY! I for one will never cross your border if I can help it.
18 minutes ago
According to civilian “authorities,” who try to imitate some comfortable appearances of being military, he’s only a “civilian” (as seen on TV).
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