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Strict gun laws haven't stemmed Chicago bloodshed
StarTribune.com ^ | 1/29/13 | MONICA DAVEY , New York Times

Posted on 01/30/2013 12:40:17 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo

Not a single gun shop can be found in this city. They are outlawed.

Handguns were banned in Chicago for decades, too, until 2010, when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that was going too far, leading city leaders to settle for restrictions some describe as the closest they could get legally to a ban without a ban.

And yet Chicago, a city with bans on both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, finds itself laboring to stem a flood of gun violence that contributed to more than 500 homicides last year and at least 40 killings already in 2013.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; chicago; guncontrol; gunfreezone; gunlaws; guns; secondamendment
They just don't get it in Chicago.
1 posted on 01/30/2013 12:40:25 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

What would happen if people in Chicago were permitted to freely possess and carry?

It would be fun to try it and find out.


2 posted on 01/30/2013 12:47:41 PM PST by lurk
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

If banning guns worked, Chicago would be a model of safety. Their ban wasn’t meant to keep criminals from getting them, only law abiding citizens.


3 posted on 01/30/2013 12:48:57 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: lurk

I predict not a lot because the people killing each other are black and Hispanic gang bangers.


4 posted on 01/30/2013 12:50:28 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. Yet there have been 41 murders in the month of January which puts it right on track to meet last year’s 500+. That’s 2x what LA has and 4x what New York City has, and Chicago ranks 3rd in size behind those two cities. Holder’s people just like to kill.


5 posted on 01/30/2013 12:50:27 PM PST by South40
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Cheap shots from corrupt liberal bosses. While the DC Supreme court decisions may have paved the way for law-abiding citizens to rearm themselves legitimately, Chicago’s murder statistics aren’t affected by them. That is the sole boon resulting from corrupt local government’s choice to ignore the real, ethinic/racial problem.


6 posted on 01/30/2013 12:51:14 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: lurk
"What would happen if people in Chicago were permitted to freely possess and carry?"

They need no permit, in my opinion. I know you agree. But allow me to suggest an improved phrasing so the gun-grabbers understand:

"What would happen if people in Chicago were to fully exercise their rights instead of having them unconstitutionally trampled?"

There. That's better. :-)

7 posted on 01/30/2013 12:55:27 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

It’s against the law to sell crack or meth in Chicago too... and it’s against the law in all the surrounding cities. And ALL over the country too.

Does the above fact have a chance seeping into the brain of a New York Times person? Will they ‘get’ what that might mean?

Does giving organized crime a billion dollar industry seem like a good idea to ‘oh so liberal’ journalists? Might there be implications and unintended consequences?

Are they stupid?


8 posted on 01/30/2013 1:07:22 PM PST by GOPJ ( Revelation can be more perilous than Revolution. Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; All

As expected, the “solution” offered by the article is to make the infringements even stricter, make the penalties tougher, and apply them across the entire nation!


9 posted on 01/30/2013 1:08:15 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Not only are the victims mostly poor minorities, the perps pose no threat to the elite.

They’re not going anywhere near these neighborhoods without a plenty of armed security and a pre-visit security blanket.


10 posted on 01/30/2013 1:08:51 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

But MN dems invite more thugs here from there then won’t why crime want up.


11 posted on 01/30/2013 1:13:00 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: South40
Holder’s people just like to kill.

Perhaps City Council members in Big Cities such as Chicago should finally come to terms with the underlying problem of a huge criminal population. Laws do not matter to those who don't care to serve a year or more in prison.
12 posted on 01/30/2013 1:16:07 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: TurboZamboni

Oh, come on....we all just need another round of diversity training!


13 posted on 01/30/2013 1:23:56 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
...Rev. Ira Acree, a pastor who has marched and gathered signatures for an end to so much shooting. "Chicago is an argument for laws that are statewide or, better yet, national."

Rev Acree needs to get out of Chicago a little more... The lessons that need to be learned from Chicago have nothing to do with extending their stupid laws to more civilized areas of the country. Clueless... totally clueless.

14 posted on 01/30/2013 1:31:27 PM PST by GOPJ ( Revelation can be more perilous than Revolution. Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Oh, come on....we all just need another round of diversity training!
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I wonder if they have tried MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL?

If nothing else another way to have a money grab from the Fed.


15 posted on 01/30/2013 1:37:51 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Estimates I’ve seen work out the the fact that for every gun murder in the US last year there were thousands of gun owners who didn’t hurt anyone with their gun. And who no doubt consider it downright rude to suggest anything else.
16 posted on 01/30/2013 1:41:41 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Just pass a law requiring registration and buying a license.


17 posted on 01/30/2013 1:41:51 PM PST by Paladin2
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18 posted on 01/30/2013 1:42:08 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: Gaffer

Taking guns from Americans and sending F16s to the Muslim Brotherhood.
Obama’s America.


19 posted on 01/30/2013 1:44:32 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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20 posted on 01/30/2013 1:45:50 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: GOPJ

Back in the days of Al Capone and the national shame that was Prohibition, the gangster element grew far more wealthy and powerful because of the artificial barrier to obtaining alcohol. So substitutes were being made in bathtubs and concealed moonshine stills, or smuggled in on trucks from Canada or through uncontrolled sea and lake ports.

A similar underground economy exists in Chicago today, in the supply of drugs and hand guns that seems to flow into the city unchecked. Some of the reasons could be found in careful inspection of financial records of some highly-placed officials of the City of Chicago, which is in collaboration and close coordination with the criminals who are the successors to the Capone Chicago mob.

And yes, “liberal” journalists really ARE stupid.


21 posted on 01/30/2013 1:50:53 PM PST by alloysteel (Herself, the Cold and Joyless, shouted: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

They get it. They’re running our country.


22 posted on 01/30/2013 3:33:12 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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