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During drawdown, Pentagon cuts cooked breakfast for some troops in Afghanistan
The Washington Times ^ | January 28, 2013 | By John Solomon

Posted on 01/29/2013 3:26:06 PM PST by yoe

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Obama spent $186,000 on AF1 flying to campaign today. The U.S. Government probably misspent and wasted close to a billion $$....and "due to the draw down" we can't feed our troops. Remember when Bill Clinton decimated the military rather than try to cut government waste and aid during his second term? Then Iraq happened and Rumsfeld said "You go to war with the army you have"...the press eviscerated both he and President Bush. Obama is doing the same dumb thing when there are many more areas to save money START WITH GOVERNMENT WAST AND GROUND AF1!
1 posted on 01/29/2013 3:26:15 PM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

I could not agree more. Really stop feeding the troops? Hubby and I spent seven years at overseas bases during his AF career and I saw many many civilian employees who were incompetent and lazy and who took 2 hour lunches and 5 day weekends. Please tell me why we aren’t firing these people so we can feed our deployed troops.


2 posted on 01/29/2013 3:30:53 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: yoe

cutting mid-rats? Oh man. I was a night owl.. we were always up for the grub, a nation’s army marches on it’s stomach,, sadly, O has never served in one and Moochelle would make ya eat celery and arugula.


3 posted on 01/29/2013 3:33:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: yoe; Lancey Howard; jazusamo; P-Marlowe; Girlene; smoothsailing; bigheadfred

It is not that unusual to be on deployment in an area where the meal plan is 3 class C meals a day. It is the Army. Complaining about such a standard thing is called whining. This author, John Solomon, might not know that.

He should be writing about the ROEs and not the MREs. Now that is criminal.

A-ration: fresh food prepared on-site (or nearby and transported)

B-ration: a unit-sized packaged/preserved ration, most commonly found in tray rations (nicknamed T-rat) heated by immersion.

Meal, Ready-to-Eat: the standard individual field ration


4 posted on 01/29/2013 3:36:26 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: yoe

I pray that these young warriors remember this when they get back home and the S H T F.

We could use some folks with current military trainin.


5 posted on 01/29/2013 3:37:34 PM PST by Dick Bachert (An ARMED society is a POLITE society!)
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To: yoe

I will probably be banned from FR for stating this, but I’ve had it with this POS and his band of asshats. Bring our troops home and let the ragheads kill each other off; at this point who really cares?

I am amazed that his “laser like focus” is on LGBT issues, destroying our constitution, pumping up eco friendly and mostly useless energy solutions and most recently wanting to get involved in legislating pro football. By the way I must have been asleep when the economy and jobs issues were solved. Damn sure haven’t heard anything about that . . . at least since last Thursday and that was nothing but good news . . . /s.

I hope that everyone of the worthless POS that either voted for this POS or smugly stayed at home on election day to prove a point are able to look at themselves in the mirror. Quite frankly I seriously doubt that they can.


6 posted on 01/29/2013 3:40:44 PM PST by rhubarbk
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To: longfellowsmuse

Cutting out those civilians is a wonderful idea instead of cutting those who are in the military.

http://freebeacon.com/unfit-for-combat/

“The United States Marine Corps is set to shed more than 20,000 active duty positions in the coming years and have already commenced a process meant to force some senior officers into an early retirement.

The Marines are on course to cut around 4,000 positions a year through 2017, decreasing the total number of Marines to 182,100 from its peak last year of 202,100, according to a major scale-down order that was quietly issued last year.”


7 posted on 01/29/2013 3:46:48 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: yoe

COME ON! A Troop has to have his hot SOS and eggs in the morning! And what Zero spent today was $1.8 to $2 Million just today on his trip to Vegas for a 15 min. speech to get his ego fix from an adoring crowd!


8 posted on 01/29/2013 3:51:25 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: xzins
I think you missed the point, noon and dinner are apparently unchanged whether "A" or "B".
Maybe DOD and CinC think that by cutting rations the troops will self deport. After all
"This has absolutely nothing to do with the national budget and everything to do with our responsible reduction of forces."
9 posted on 01/29/2013 3:51:41 PM PST by norton
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To: rhubarbk

IF YOU’RE BANNED, I WILL QUIT FR TOO. YOU STATED IT AS I’VE THOUGHT FOR YEARS.
I’M SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING OUR YOUNG FOLKS BEING KILLED FOR NO REASON.
THOSE RAG HEADS HAVE BEEN KILLING THEMSELVES FOR 600 YEARS AND NOTHING WE’RE DOING OVER THERE WILL CHANGE THAT.
BRING THEM HOME AND SEND THE DICTATOR TO LEAVENWORTH WHERE HE BELONGS.


10 posted on 01/29/2013 3:52:54 PM PST by taillightchaser (I'm going to become a criminal so I can keep my guns.)
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To: taillightchaser

Thank you for your excellent reply, I couldn’t agree more.

As an aside, I was traveling through Kansas City last week and saw a great t-shirt in an airport gift shop . . .

Welcome to Leavenworth
A Gated Community


11 posted on 01/29/2013 3:56:11 PM PST by rhubarbk
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To: norton

I didn’t miss anything. If they are having 3 C’s a day, then that is not unusual.

They are getting 2 hots and an MRE. So, that is pretty good. In fact, it’s sounds more like a normal deployment if you ask me.

As I said, whining about MREs is nothing compared to the criminal ROEs that are in place.


12 posted on 01/29/2013 3:58:06 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: yoe

So the management folks cut hot breakfasts for soldiers to keep management incomes high. That trend’s been going on for about three decades, even in civilian circles. Now, there are very few in America who actually produce things that we need.


13 posted on 01/29/2013 3:59:28 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: xzins

Little odd.

Most places I went if we were to have one “C” meal a day it was lunch.

Nothing smells like a Mess Hall - Uh, Dining Facility - Um, sorry DFAC - at breakfast time.


15 posted on 01/29/2013 4:02:53 PM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: yoe

hey, we got illegals to feed, you guys are at the back of the bus with the elderly


16 posted on 01/29/2013 4:04:30 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: xzins

Cooked breakfasts???
This assclown author Solomon is whining on behalf of the guys “in the rear with the gear”.
He is clueless.

/disgusted headshake


17 posted on 01/29/2013 4:06:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: yoe

Of course, cooking emits satanic gases that lead to ‘climate change’. We can’t allow those nasty ‘weather extremes’ to happen in the lovely Hindu Kush Mts.


18 posted on 01/29/2013 4:10:54 PM PST by rfp1234 (Arguing with a liberal is like playing chess with a pigeon.)
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To: Lancey Howard
"in the rear" with something that ryhmes with gears now days. whole new meaning in our brave new world.
19 posted on 01/29/2013 4:11:16 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: yoe

Ah, just send the grunts over to the AFB.
When they have a cut down it is 2 eggs instead of 3 - fresh, of course.

When they start having ‘powdered eggs to order, powdered milk, powdered bug juice’ etc .

I am definitely being (for the most part) facetious and sarcastic, it really is a sad state of affairs when this asshat in the White Hut is spending OUR money on his own personal life, with the hopping on AF1 like it was a VW bug sitting down at the end of the driveway.

It is time to send him to Camp David and let the ‘First Brood’ live out their dictatorship there.


20 posted on 01/29/2013 4:18:33 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: TurboZamboni

LOL!
Yeah, in Ubama’s sodomized military you probably risk “hate crime” prosecution for using that phrase.


21 posted on 01/29/2013 4:18:33 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: rfp1234

“cooking emits satanic gases that lead to ‘climate change’”

have you ever opened an MRE? Those things emit satanic gasses without cooking. No telling what type of corrosive, polluting byproducts are left over when they make them.


22 posted on 01/29/2013 4:19:57 PM PST by jim-x (9/11/2001 - Never forget, Never forgive.)
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To: yoe

Telling the troops to rough it,when they have to rough it,is part of any military.Having them rough it,when it is cheaper is stupid.It is acting like amateurs actually,European armies do that when their soldiers don’t have food or ammo.Tell them the Euro equivalent of suck it up and drive on.

It is cheap and it is stupid.If you can have soldiers fight comfortably and well fed,then you owe it to yourselves to do.Having soldiers rough it their entire military careers because “it is good for them”,leads to nowhere except physical problems later on.Physical problems the taxpayer ends up paying for.


23 posted on 01/29/2013 4:24:55 PM PST by Del Rapier
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To: yoe
Obama spent $186,000

Uh, that's per hour. Bammy was in the air for 9 hours. Mr. calculator says that's 1.674 Million dollars.

24 posted on 01/29/2013 4:26:10 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: NormsRevenge
[. . .cutting mid-rats? Oh man. I was a night owl.. we were always up for the grub]

In my day mid-rats were a thick slice of bologna or “luncheon meat” sandwich and coffee. These old cuts came out of a green tubular can and were called “horse cock.”

25 posted on 01/29/2013 4:26:51 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: PeteB570

It wasn’t unusual to have 3 MREs a day the first few days of a deployment or if in a remote location. Other times, the MRE depended on the schedule for the day. I agree that mostly it was at lunch, however, if you’ve got a lot of folks running on reverse cycle, then it might make more sense to have the hot at lunch and supper, since that would be a more likely time for the night shift to be awake. The fact that they have midrats says that they’re running shifts.


26 posted on 01/29/2013 4:42:15 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Lancey Howard

Just to be honest with you, there’s some MREs I’d rather have than some more of the oven moistened French toast and oven moistened scrambled egg breakfasts that I’ve had.

And, having participated in the “old army” back in the Viet era, I still think there were items in the old C rations that were better than the MREs. A heated tin of the old C rat bread....mmmmmm mmmmmm good.


27 posted on 01/29/2013 4:49:41 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

I only had a few MREs but liked the spaghetti meal myself.


28 posted on 01/29/2013 4:57:17 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I hear ya. I was on night shift/stay shift for most of my time in the corps. Mid-rats were like lunch to us, breakfast was like dinner. And being overseas quite a bit of the time; going out for mikyD’s wasn’t an option.
(as my oldest son in the corps, stationed in Kadena is figuring out currently)

That’s just un-sat!


29 posted on 01/29/2013 5:01:42 PM PST by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Island hopping a few times on AF flights on my way to and from Diego Garcia, some of the best food I ever had in the military was when we landed on some island and went to eat.


30 posted on 01/29/2013 5:08:45 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long does America have?)
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To: rhubarbk

You won’t see this particular moderator banning you for those sentiments.


31 posted on 01/29/2013 5:10:41 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: taillightchaser

See post 31


32 posted on 01/29/2013 5:13:32 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: yoe
“As a part of the responsible draw down of operational forces serving in Afghanistan, my staff examined ways to reduce our footprint and set the conditions for the reduction of forces,” explained Col. Joe Wawro, an infantry commander for the 4th Infantry Brigade Combat team.

Wawro said military and civilian leaders collaborated on ideas and “estimated that by changing the meal cycle, they would reduce their overall operations by 40 percent” if breakfast and midnight snacks were converted from cooked options to MREs.

Yeah, Colonel, starving your troops will certainly reduce operations.

Why anyone would want to join this increasing joke of an organization right now, under such incompetent, careless, and self-serving leadership, is beyond me.

33 posted on 01/29/2013 5:15:39 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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This is a national disgrace! Obama can fly all over continuing his stupid “campaign” and we’re not feeding our troops?!
Where are the Repubs? Why don’t we hear screaming from the rooftops about this?! Call Obama on this!!!!!!! And don’t blame any stupid sequestration or budget cuts.....time to cut the imperial presidency and spend $$ where it needs to go!


34 posted on 01/29/2013 5:28:24 PM PST by Cookies4ever (6? That's like)
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To: xzins

Can’t disagree about the ROE’s, xzins. It is disgusting.


35 posted on 01/29/2013 5:31:10 PM PST by Girlene
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To: PeteB570

In terms of sheer effect on morale, breakfast well prepared with eggs to order is when available the most important meal of the day. And soldiers love the cooks who are up long before everyone else & who are usually the last to turn in at night to make sure everyone gets fed.

This is in the field cooking out of an MKT (mobile kitchen trailer).

MREs at breakfast time were only there to be issued for the lunch meal, period.


36 posted on 01/29/2013 5:32:15 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: rhubarbk

Post of the day. Thanks.


37 posted on 01/29/2013 5:39:57 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Banned? I have hero worship.


39 posted on 01/29/2013 5:42:27 PM PST by Toespi
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I hope I didn't violate some rule by my post #38. Trying something new. Anyways, I ALWAYS try to follow the rules and COMPLY. Hey, gotta go...my train is leaving the station...(I hope I get one of the super neato armbands the guards porters have)
40 posted on 01/29/2013 5:45:46 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: taillightchaser

If you can’t win a war in ten years, time to come home. Let them all kill each other. They are anyway.


41 posted on 01/29/2013 5:50:04 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: xzins

Most of my 6 years in the Marines was with c-rats. I still have a P38 on my dog tag chain. The last year I was in was when we were introduced to MREs. We called them “Meals Rejected by Ethioians” back then. They were new, and not particularly well received in my unit. We wanted our c-rats back. I suppose they’ve tweaked and improved the MREs in the past 30 years or so.


42 posted on 01/29/2013 6:06:06 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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“I’M SICK AND TIRED OF SEEING OUR YOUNG FOLKS BEING KILLED FOR NO REASON.
THOSE RAG HEADS HAVE BEEN KILLING THEMSELVES FOR 600 YEARS AND NOTHING WE’RE DOING OVER THERE WILL CHANGE THAT.
BRING THEM HOME AND SEND THE DICTATOR TO LEAVENWORTH WHERE HE BELONGS.”

I saw a story on the news tonight while I was at the gym about a soldier (possibly Marine) who had all four limbs blown off and had received an arm transplant. I literally just about choked up right in the middle of the gym. It’s pathetic what we are allowing to happen to our military people.


43 posted on 01/29/2013 6:11:28 PM PST by suthener
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They had an episode about MRE’s on “Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern”. That guy wouldn’t eat the stuff.


44 posted on 01/29/2013 6:26:10 PM PST by bigheadfred
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He should be writing about the ROEs and not the MREs.

Succinct and elegant.

If we were fighting under leadership determined to win, no front line soldier would be bitching about the food.

45 posted on 01/29/2013 6:33:06 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: Notary Sojac; xzins; Lancey Howard; Girlene; GeronL

But just think. If we go to war with the North Koreans the ROE’s may be the MRE’s.


46 posted on 01/29/2013 6:40:28 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: longfellowsmuse

“Please tell me why we aren’t firing these people so we can feed our deployed troops”

Because they are UNION, and it quite litterally takes an act of congress to fire them.


47 posted on 01/29/2013 7:36:26 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Slaving away so obama supporting deadbeats can play)
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To: huldah1776
“The United States Marine Corps is set to shed more than 20,000 active duty positions in the coming years and have already commenced a process meant to force some senior officers into an early retirement.

Great! 20,000 more guaranteed on our side when the SHTF.
48 posted on 01/29/2013 7:38:06 PM PST by crosshairs (All we are saying, is give a high cap piece a chance.)
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To: yoe
cutbacks began Jan. 1, and affect about 2,700 soldiers deployed in forward operating bases in more remote areas of Afghanistan

This is so Chicago. It's below freezing in Kabul and they cut back on hot breakfasts to the frontline troops. These arrogant skunks just don't care.

It's how the politicians act in Chicago - remorseless, pitiless, pukes. They target a vulnerable minority because it's part of their philosophical approach to life.

49 posted on 01/29/2013 7:43:33 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: fattigermaster

Hell, I thought she was auditioning for the role of “Slimer” in the next Ghostbusters movie.


50 posted on 01/29/2013 7:45:41 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Slaving away so obama supporting deadbeats can play)
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