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Obama to announce his immigration reform plan, said to be more liberal than Senate effort
Wash Post ^ | 1/29/13 | David Nakamura and Rosalind S. Helderman

Posted on 01/29/2013 5:29:25 AM PST by jimbo123

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To: jimbo123
Obama to announce his immigration reform plan, said to be more liberal than Senate effort

Well, duh.

I mean, Obama's never going to propose anything that has a prayer of passing, because he wants to just use it as a brush to paint the GOP as unreasonable obstructionists, while a more "moderate" proposal actually comes from the legislators.

So, to do that, he's going to take the intended proposal and veer hard left from it to ensure it won't pass, but that the intended bill looks more reasonable in comparison.

41 posted on 01/29/2013 9:57:22 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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Obama to announce his immigration reform plan, said to be more liberal than Senate effort

That's the fallacy of all the leftists' "compromise" rhetoric - when their proposal is blatantly radical, the "compromise" solution always looks so much better, and their leader can then say the other side isn't willing to compromise if they reject the still leftist "compromise"..

Kind of like proposing to drive over the cliff at 100 mph and complaining that we're not willing to compromise and accept 50 mph.

42 posted on 01/29/2013 10:22:46 AM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: jimbo123

Of course Obama wants these illegals to get amnesty..its the only way to keep permanent control..11 million new DemoCRAP voters equals Obama as President for life..does the GOP think for one second that they will get ANY illegal alien votes by giving them citizenship..WAKE UP GOP they will NEVER vote for you


43 posted on 01/29/2013 10:43:28 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Venturer; DungeonMaster
Before Amnesty is even spoken about we should prove for one year that we can stop any more illegals from entering this country.

NO WAY any Democrat should want to secure the border and slow the influx of Democrat voters. This is all part of the Democrat master plan to get the takers to outnumber the makers, achieve and strengthen a Democrat voters majority, and enjoy perpetual Democrat party control.

Plus, this is really just the latest installment of illegal aliens suffrage. Whenever suffrage is on the table, anyone from either party who votes AGAINST it risks political suicide by alienating the target voting bloc now and forevermore, should it pass without their vote.

At times like this, I tend to agree with the term limits crowd. Career politicians are more apt to put their self-interest ahead of the nation.

44 posted on 01/29/2013 12:19:04 PM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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To: jimbo123

....guess we shouldn’t have given our nation to these guys.

Oh well.

Go pay your taxes. The new neighbors are sure going to need the money. :)


45 posted on 01/29/2013 1:16:26 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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Do the math, folks.

According to the Pew Hispanic Center:

First generation Hispanics vote 80% for the Democrat Party.

According to the Census Bureau:

Each new citizen “imports” 2.1 new family members within ten years.

Amnesty - in ANY form - means the political death of American Conservatism.


46 posted on 01/29/2013 1:25:17 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: jimbo123

Why do I have to comply with Obamacare? It’s unpopular law that no one wants.

Why do I have to obey speed laws? They obviously don’t work.


47 posted on 01/29/2013 1:25:31 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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This is their MO. place a pile of crap on a plate and a pile of crap between two slices of bread and ask people which one they will be eating today..

But elections have consequences.


48 posted on 01/29/2013 1:33:19 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Baynative

I know it will be pushed upon us so I am writing my Congresscritters and asking for picture ID for voting...
Might as well get something out of this fiasco.


49 posted on 01/29/2013 1:40:18 PM PST by jch10 (Hey GOP! Only Conservatives get my vote.)
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To: jimbo123

I haven’t seen anyone comment on the irony of our congresscritters falling all over themselves to grant amnesty to millions of criminals in this country while at the same time proposing to turn millions of law abiding patriotic gun owners into criminals . . . .


50 posted on 01/29/2013 2:18:54 PM PST by Conservative_Rob
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Great idea! I’m on with it.


51 posted on 01/29/2013 2:37:02 PM PST by Baynative (I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. I can't put it down.)
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To: Conservative_Rob

Rubio is gone politically. He is now down there as a bottom feeder with McAmnesty and Limpy Gramnesty. He has’nt been there long enough to spit and he wants to flood this country with illiterate welfare grabbers who vote demorat. You cant make up how stupid that is. I wrote emails to my congressman and both Senators and warned them to stay away from this or face political defeat— real bad.I will start calling and faxing now— alot.


52 posted on 01/29/2013 3:11:23 PM PST by willardwx
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Amnesty won’t work,you’d be creating a permanent second-class of citizens who will never be socially accepted in the rest of society.When you have the kind of economic situation,we are in,it makes sense to cut support and entitlements to local illegals.Have them return home and let Americans take their jobs.

Immigration reform,to reward behavior that breaks the law means that people who follow the law whether they are born here or not.....get screwed.

Besides the Democrats will never give these people what they want or need,if they throw that kind of a bone their way,they will likely gouge them at the end of the bargain.A one way ticket to the lib plantation,is to no one’s benefit.


53 posted on 01/29/2013 3:48:02 PM PST by Del Rapier
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I've suffered through Rubio's speech twice today and have been twice disappointed by the hosts' reaction.

Rush and Levin both failed to challenge him on obvious flaws in his proposal. All I heard was the same tired old sloganeering & 'gee I hate illegal immigration as much as your listeners but we're a compassionate people' crap in a machine gun delivery that left little opportunity for response.

Most aggravating of all I do not believe, as both hosts said, that Rubio is a sincere politician hoping to solve an intractable problem. I believe his only goal is to further his poltical prospects from what he's proposing. I'm sick of hearing about Rubio as if he's some kind of second coming of RWR. He's a lightweight.

54 posted on 01/29/2013 4:34:20 PM PST by skeeter
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To: willardwx; MinuteGal; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; Impy; sickoflibs
>> Rubio is gone politically. He is now down there as a bottom feeder with McAmnesty and Limpy Gramnesty. He has’nt been there long enough to spit and he wants to flood this country with illiterate welfare grabbers who vote demorat. You cant make up how stupid that is. <<

The freepers who gave us both Mel Martinez and Marco Rubio in FL will find another Cuban-American "true conservative" to replace him in the Senate, who they swear up and down is "anti-illegal immigration". We will be told that we need to "get behind" the candidate the moment they announce, because anyone else who runs in the primary is a "RINO" Anyone who tries to research the candidate's record and questions whether their career matches their rhetoric will be shouted down and accused of disliking the candidate because they are "anti-hispanic". Jeb Bush and multiple tea party leaders will get behind the "true conservative" and they will win the race handily, then show their true colors after taking office.

Been the M.O. for a lot of Florida freepers for the past decade.

55 posted on 01/29/2013 5:09:49 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Venturer

Just what America needs right now : a flood of Islamic immigrants on the fast track to entitlements


56 posted on 01/29/2013 5:38:04 PM PST by KTM rider ( American at heart..... Rebel by force)
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the border is the least of our problems . Imagine a flood of Islamics ....OMG it would be unleashing the hounds of hell !!!!

I think Obama's plan is to open the floodgates to Islam

57 posted on 01/29/2013 5:51:10 PM PST by KTM rider ( American at heart..... Rebel by force)
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Yeah No Kidding.

We are so screwed.


58 posted on 01/29/2013 6:28:57 PM PST by Venturer
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To: willardwx
Rubio is gone politically.

He is an absolutely terrific orator, BUT like Hussein he is not a NBC. But then Hussein wasn't challenged so I guess it is ok. /s

Marco Rubio's parents, the late Mario Rubio and Oria Garcia Rubio, were both born in Cuba. According to Cuban law that makes Marco Rubio a dual citizen. He is not eligible to be President or Vice President.
59 posted on 01/29/2013 10:56:27 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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