Skip to comments.New York Gun Owners Flip the Bird to "Assault Weapons" Registration Law
Posted on 01/26/2013 3:25:52 PM PST by Daffynition
New York Governor Cuomo the Junior may have rushed through his new gun control law with such speed that police will avoid its restrictions only through the blessed miracle of selective enforcement, but he may have a little trouble getting the state's firearms owners to attend his party. The new law requires owners of those scary-looking rifles known as "assault weapons" to register their property (amidst assurances that, oh no, the registration lists will never be used for confiscation), but gun rights activists are actively urging gun owners to defy the new mandate.
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Mr Cuomo II, back away
**Couldn’t they have made the law more workable by just requiring that criminals register their guns?**
Good, start going door to door in the hoods to see how far they get with forced registration! ;-)
The resistance talk is all huffing and puffing, the Assault weapons ban in NJ had almost 100% compliance, the newer CT restrictions has near 100% compliance by the law abiding taxpaying c**k sucking citizenry.
Holder is going to give the law enforcement organizations in NY State, local , county, regional, state, full access to the entire NICS registration system going back to the beginning of the system.
Every registered owner of a “assault weapon” is going to be tracked down.
The Canadians only failed in their long gun registry program due to the lack of a NICS type system, their neighbors in NY lost this war through millions of papercuts.
Remind anyone of anything?......
How could one determine the level of compliance unless you had the list to begin with? That makes no sense. Seems that your 100% figure is being pulled out of your butt. Canada, Australia and others think compliance is/was under 70%, but no way to know for sure.
Make no mistake this sharing of NICS data is a coordinated situation between NY State anti-gun pols/special interest groups and the national Democrat Executive bureaucracy/anti-gun interest groups in the Executive branch.
Jersey isn’t New York.
Chuck Schumer sponsored the Bill that created NICS in 1993, he has spent his entire career preparing for this moment.
Bill Summary & Status
103rd Congress (1993 - 1994)
All Congressional Actions with Amendments
Latest Title: Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act
Sponsor: Rep Schumer, Charles E. [NY-9] (introduced 2/22/1993) Cosponsors (155)
Related Bills: H.RES.302, H.RES.322, H.R.277, H.R.3268, S.414
Latest Major Action: 11/30/1993 Became Public Law No: 103-159.
One little thing the gun grabbers have overlooked is the vast majority of guns in this country have never required registration.
Difference is you people, stuck in some weirdo world, gave in. We will not.
Every NICS check created a de facto registration as of this week, AG Holder is making the entirety of the NICS archive immediately available to NY State Law Enforcement.
Every person who submitted a long arm NICS check since NICS went live in 1998, is going to see a form letter sent backed up by the threat of execution by the local SWAT team.
The Coumo family has proven time and time again over the last 6 decades they don’t give a shit about the plebs in the state. Coumo is going to force his own Waco just so he and Schumer have something to talk about over drinks in their retirement years in Florida.
The cops I know ARE saying that. (And I know a LOT of cops.)
A simple way to get around such trick is to sell the NY purchased gun to an out of stater and buy one for cash. Ends the paper trail and the NCIS registration fails. For that matter sell it and buy it back for cash.
What you are also forgetting is the sheer number of those who are refusing to register them. There are not enough police nor prisons to handle that many people.
And still the vast majority of weapons in this country have never required registration or a background check.
Why don’t you just surrender to them already. Oh wait, Jersey, you already did.
DO NOT dictate to others as to what you have already done.
Obviously, criminals will not register their guns, and that is the intention of this law. They deliberately and intentionally want to take guns from honest, non-violent civilized people and leave them in the hands of violent criminals. They do this will full awareness and intent.
To enable the “downtrodden, oppressed, victimized” to waltz in and take what is “rightfully” theirs from the evil “oppressors.”
That’s a very good sign, but the cops need to make sure this is made public. The line in the sand has to be drawn and the political hacks have to be grabbed hard by the balls. [When you’ve got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.]
The next thing is the political hacks vote to rescind this stupid law, or they get to “sleep with the fishes”.
Correct. Why risk jail with non compliance? I think the Coumo and the coming Ct gun regs will spur a migration to red states.
Talking to some neighbors today and it appears that a lot of guns were lost in the storm.
Its tragic really.
Sandy was terrible! A lot of people lost everything. Such a shame.
It "failed" at one point because it was a liberal government that imposed it. Once the conservatives (adults) took over, the long gun registry was abolished. That's what you have to do, elect a conservative government. (I know, easier said than done).
The cops are not going to jeopardize their chushy pensions padded w/OT and seniority. Not in NY, Cali or CT. [As much as I wish it were so, based on their oath to defend the Constitution.]
I was trying to *make light* of this hideous situation. If laws were enough to deter criminal behavior prisons would be empty.
As far as criminals our governor, Emeperor Malloy released 3000 convicted felons last month....to save money for the overcrowded prison. These were murderers, rapists, violent offenders etc. 2 citizens have died at the hands of these scum.
Nice try, clown, but no cigar. You don’t much about Jersey, do you?
That was one damn big perfect storm. Oh the humanity!
Beadie eyed son of sfachime, HUD secretary and one of the root causes of the housing market collapse and the elitist billionaire 16 oz salt free smoke free and trans fat free douchberg would not dare go into urban areas and confiscate illegal guns for fear of not coming out alive besides they are not at all interested in thier guns, THIER THREAT IS US. we stand in the way of thier agenda to control us by disarming us and handing the control mechanisms to the UN and the international criminals. During the muslim rioting in britain these poor bastrads were on line buying baseball bats to protect themselves. When we loose our guns we loose the country. This must never happen here!
1998 isn't that long ago. I'll bet lotsa people don't appear there. At the same time, the millions upon millions bought since then are also too many to chase down, especially given a half-hearted constabulary with limited numbers and a limited amount of funds with which to pay them. I'm not saying there aren't dangers. On the contrary. I therefore think it's most important for us to be aware of our strategic advantages, and to consider how to maximize and expand them.
Some folks on the thread seem to take surrender as a foregone conclusion, and apparently, a plan. I think that's unwise.
You can't make criminals out of existing owners.
I live in NYS and I hate it. This place has gone communist.
Exactly...and ex post facto is unconstitional.
Do you have any source for your claim? I understood the law forbids keeping any permanent record of federal background checks. If there is any “NCIS archive” going back to 1998, that would be a clear violation.
"Cuomo The Lesser" sounds more fitting to me.
...which is straight from the communist manifesto. They let the hardened criminals out on the street. They disarm the citizenry. Those criminals attack a defenseless citizenry. The citizens demand that the government restrict any and all civil liberties in order to guarantee safety.
“Every registered owner of a assault weapon is going to be tracked down.”
And some of them WILL shoot back.
How many casualties are “acceptable” to enforce this law?
Sorry, no. NICS automatically purges data every 24 hours, the only data immune from the daily purge is those checks that ran longer. Once a NICS check is complete, up OR down, it’s purged in the next 24-hour cycle.
How do I know this ?? I worked at the FBI Data Center where NICS is. They have monthly “purge audits”. . .
Jersey boys always talk with that stupid thug accent because that’s all they’ve got, an accent. They can only run to the end of their little pink chains and bark.
I don’t register or ask permission for anything. Let them track me. My goober peas and jolly ranchers don’t go without a fight.
I guess they don’t need nor want a nanny?
“.....entire Nics registration system....”
OK there’s a law against any registration system (I think its called the volkmer law).
And the nics only has names of those who are felons, mental cases, etc., who are PRESENTLY NOT ALLOWED to buy. When the nics check is done, the prospective buyers’ info is what is entered against the main list.
If there’s a match and they need to check more to rule it out, then its delayed (if it goes beyond 3 days they let sale proceed).
Nowhere is the information stored on the prospective gun buyer in the NICS system.
The only place its stored permanently is on the form 4473 that stays with the FFL dealer that it was bought from.(very rarely will batfe guys come in & copy; at most they LOOK).
So no such thing as NICS registration of purchasers.
If there is, then a big fat class action LAWSUIT is in order.