Skip to comments.British MP: Jews Didn't Learn the Lesson from the Holocaust
Posted on 01/25/2013 3:06:41 PM PST by Nachum
A Liberal Democrat MP in Britain faces expulsion from the party for saying Jews had not learned from the murder of six million in the Holocaust in their treatment of Palestinian Authority Arabs, the Daily Mail reports.
David Ward, MP for Bradford East, wrote on his own website that he was saddened that Jews could within a few years of liberation from the death camps be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians on a daily basis.
Having visited Auschwitz twice once with my family and once with local schools I am saddened that the Jews, who suffered unbelievable levels of persecution during the Holocaust, could within a few years of liberation from the death camps be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians in the new State of Israel and continue to do so on a daily basis in the West Bank and Gaza, Ward wrote.
He later defended his comments in interviews, saying they were a just a statement of fact, and adding that it appears that the suffering by the Jews has not transformed their views on how others should be treated.
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(for those of you not in the know, in Parliament, where members are only referred to by one of a variety of titles. Only the Speaker uses the name (always the Full Name) of the members, and explicitly "naming" someone is either an insult, a reprimand, an enormous faux pas, or is calling for them to speak - depending entirely on context)
Dear David Ward: the Jews learned quite well those lessons of the Holocaust.
One of those lesseons is why Israel exists. Another is why they are armed. A third is that they primarily keep their own council.
Israel is the ONLY nation in the Middle East where Arabs democratically vote and are part of a government. No where else in that reagion is that allowed.
So David, go pound sand. You know nothing!
Islam is the only thing inflicting atrocities on the “Palestinians”
But liberals sure have learned to be anti semitic racists, haven’t they?
“They” “The Jews” haven’t learned???
Wow, the Israelis are tricking Palis into showers only to gas them and later destroy the remains in crematoriums? And the entire world has just ignored it, or censored it? They have rounded up so many Palis that they are practically extinct in Israel and its immediate environs? They have passed “Pali laws” making it verboten for Palis to be seen without a crescent moon sewn to their clothes? And the whole world has conspired to hide these heinous facts? Unbelievable. I mean, literally unbelievable. As in, I don’t believe it.
All those nasty Jewish gas chambers and crematoriums full of Palestinians!/s
But if you ask a palestinian they will say the Holocaust never happened so according to the Pali’s the British idiot is wrong.
I love it when their stupid logic backfires..
My first response....thanks for posting
with all the money tossed down the Palestinian toilet, they still cannot treat their own water, supply their own power, or do any of the other basic thing even third world countries can do. They and their defenders are quite embarrassing actually..
Well, the Jews in Israel learned, the Jews in this country are another matter.
Year after year they vote like lemmings for the party that continually gives aid and comfort to their sworn enemies.
So much for learning.
Read the koran,pal....it's translated into English for *your* convenience.
Dear MP Ward,
the Jews and their millions of good Christian (and other) friends have indeed learned the lesson of ww2
Israel WILL defend itself, no matter how many stupid statements are made by outsiders
(it is true that the Jews did not seem to learn this lesson from the mass murder at the tower of York in 1190, nor from the English expulsion in 1290. But, finally, they have learned....at long last... and nothing you or anybody else can say or do can change that. Aren’t you glad the stupid Jews have finally got the message right?)
ps to the MP:
but the British government lost its credibility to comment or give advice to Israel when the House of Commons approved the Chamberlain-MacDonald White Paper (stab in the back of Israel on 23 May 1939 — just when Israel and the Jews needed British support the most)
no doubt the Israelis appreciate the millions of good British people, but Israel does NOT appreciate, nor desire, any more unsolicited neo-Nazi style “advice” .. thank you anyway...
You are a gross embarrassment to the British people (and good Christians everywhere)
I suggest you look at the history of Jews in Europe. They were prevented in many places from owning land or from participating in most professions. They thus tended towards political thinking that most of us would consider radical and socialism is very popular among many Jews.
Jews have experienced bigotry in this nation, being excluded from business clubs and even golf clubs. Some of the famous golf clubs in southern California were started by Jewish movie stars, such as Groucho Marx, who was prevented from joining established clubs around Los Angeles.
What a pathetic piece of detritus. He should move to ‘Palestine’.
I just learned recently that one of Boston's major hospitals (Boston has a number of famous hospitals) was founded by Jewish doctors because the other hospitals of the city wouldn't accept them.
“Jews have experienced bigotry in this nation, being excluded from business clubs and even golf clubs.”
And what does this have to do with consistently voting democrap?
When did FDR (mister do absolutely nothing while Jews were being murdered) become a Republican? When did every business that turned away Jews become a Republican establishment? And as far as socialism, none of them moved to Russia, where Stalin was only slightly less effective at killing them than Hitler.
And for something a little more recent:
“One of the most prominent figures at John Kerry’s nominating convention was the Rev. Al Sharpton, who seemed almost as fixed a presence at Kerry’s side the night of his acceptance speech as were the nominee’s wife and vice presidential candidate John Edwards.
Yet, it is common knowledge that this failed contender for the Democratic nomination incited anti-Jewish violence in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn in 1991 and in Harlem in 1995. In the latter incident he encouraged the explicitly anti-Semitic boycott and picketing of a Jewish-owned store named “Freddy’s.” Eight employees of the store were killed in a fire started by one of Sharpton’s followers.”
Sorry, but Jews supporting democraps is like blacks supporting the Confederacy - makes no sense at all.
“suffering by the Jews has not transformed their views on how others should be treated.
How in the world can their be peace in the middle east when those darn Jews insist on defending themselves? /s
Emotionally a good argument, but strategically flawed. Jews were thrown out of Israel for over 1700 years. Coming back after WW2 in huge numbers displacing Arabs who live there will ignite ethnic conflict. Muslim Arabs by nature are not tolerant. Now we have a strategic mess dragging the US into a long costly conflict with the Islamic Arab world. In the beginning the Arabs ran away in battle, but they now have found a new weapon, their religion and not fearing death, the suicide bomber. Arabs in Israel do not like their Jewish rulers, even if their lives are better and democratic. That is the nature of Arabs, they are not Americans or Europeans. The US backs Israel in the ME and the Arabs will be on our backs till Israel is destroyed. Question is can the US afford such a conflict while in huge debt? I think the Iraq War and Afghanistan War provides us the answer. US will abandon Israel. So when the US backed the partition in 1948 did the US do the Jewish survivors a real favor or did we set them up for another Holocaust?
A quote from Iranian school book from a chapter on Paganism:
...Ancient people were primitive and unaware about Jews. For that reason they falsely blamed the powers of nature for their troubles. That led people to personalization of these powers...
Good grief! Western leftists are all twisted and jacked up to rationalize the justified mass murder of eeeevil Jews...AGIAN!
In past, I took comfort in the US being the rock or safe haven of the world for Jews (and Christians) should European leftists ever fly off the deep end of hating and demonizing the Jews again. But the same mentality has now set into American leftists their Dear Reader.
Whereas before Obama, the American Left did not have the centralized power and machine to murder a group of people enmass, today with the American police state and the machinery of Homeland InSecurity, I can’t say that anymore -at least for orthodox Jews and Christians on American soil.
Obama and his leftist pals in Europe are getting ready to impose Obama’s terms for a peace agreement on Israel. Of all the times for BiBi’s power to be weakened in Israel, this is a bad time. The American and European Left have risen to power and have not only placed radical Islam in power over the Arab Nations surrounding Israel; they have actually joined radical Islam in their cause against Israel and Christians.
We are living in interesting times, unfortunately.
Kabbalist Calls for Jews to Return Home
A Kabbalist Elder in Bnei Brak told his students on Friday, Dec.21, 2012 that time is running out for Diaspora Jews to return to the Jewish State.
Rabbi Eliyahu Leon Levi, a 73-year-old sage of Turkish Jewish descent who continues a tradition of Kabbalah from his grandfather and father, issued a passionate cry for the Jews of the United States to purchase homes in Israel and begin planning their move.
He said that just like in Iran before the Shah was ousted, the Jews were prospering financially. But then suddenly everything changed, and many couldn’t leave with their wealth.
“A similar scenario will occur in the USA,” he warned. Jews must leave and take their money with them. The day will come when they won’t be able to leave with their wealth,” he said...
“...Jews supporting democraps is like blacks supporting the Confederacy - makes no sense at all...”
I agree, but their millenia-long experiences tell them differently.
Some Jews left Israel, but not all. Jews have been there since time immemorial.
You’ve been lied to.
Last I looked, there were no Jews feeding Palestinians into ovens, and the only ‘camps’ are the ones the rest of the Arab world left the Palestinians in so they would get radicalized.
He later defended his comments in interviews, saying they were a just a statement of fact, and adding that it appears that the suffering by the Jews has not transformed their views on how others should be treated.Actually, Jews created Israel in large part BECAUSE of what Europeans like Ward did to European Jewry -- IOW, they learned the only possible lesson that comes from the Holocaust, that they need their own state.
These statements are not to be taken seriously. The only life lesson you can take from them is to illustrate just how much of a disaster living in fantasy land can be.
David Ward is a liberal democrat, which would basically correspond to the more radical elements of the US Democrat party.
David Ward is an MP for the city of Bradford, which coincidentally has one of the highest proportions of Muslims (and therefore Muslim voters) in the UK.
These two facts might just possibly assist you in putting his comments into context...