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British MP: Jews Didn't Learn the Lesson from the Holocaust
inn ^ | 1/25/13 | Elad Benari, Canada

Posted on 01/25/2013 3:06:41 PM PST by Nachum

A Liberal Democrat MP in Britain faces expulsion from the party for saying Jews had not learned from the murder of six million in the Holocaust in their treatment of Palestinian Authority Arabs, the Daily Mail reports.

David Ward, MP for Bradford East, wrote on his own website that he was “saddened” that Jews “could within a few years of liberation from the death camps be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians…on a daily basis.”

“Having visited Auschwitz twice – once with my family and once with local schools – I am saddened that the Jews, who suffered unbelievable levels of persecution during the Holocaust, could within a few years of liberation from the death camps be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians in the new State of Israel and continue to do so on a daily basis in the West Bank and Gaza,” Ward wrote.

He later defended his comments in interviews, saying they were a “just a statement of fact”, and adding that “it appears that the suffering by the Jews has not transformed their views on how others should be treated.”

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Germany; Israel; Japan; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; bradfordeast; british; britishmp; davidduke; davidward; dumbasspukelimey; europeanunion; holocaust; holocost; israel; japan; jews; liberaldemocrat; s2nki2hfe3da2; skinheadsonfr; unitedkingdom
Not sorry about the remarks, only sorry the Jews have guns.
1 posted on 01/25/2013 3:06:45 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Will all due Respect David Ward

F^($ YOU!

(for those of you not in the know, in Parliament, where members are only referred to by one of a variety of titles. Only the Speaker uses the name (always the Full Name) of the members, and explicitly "naming" someone is either an insult, a reprimand, an enormous faux pas, or is calling for them to speak - depending entirely on context)


2 posted on 01/25/2013 3:13:23 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Nachum

Dear David Ward: the Jews learned quite well those lessons of the Holocaust.

One of those lesseons is why Israel exists. Another is why they are armed. A third is that they primarily keep their own council.

Israel is the ONLY nation in the Middle East where Arabs democratically vote and are part of a government. No where else in that reagion is that allowed.

So David, go pound sand. You know nothing!


3 posted on 01/25/2013 3:14:01 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Nachum

Islam is the only thing inflicting atrocities on the “Palestinians”


4 posted on 01/25/2013 3:14:08 PM PST by crusadersoldier
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To: Nachum

But liberals sure have learned to be anti semitic racists, haven’t they?

“They” “The Jews” haven’t learned???


5 posted on 01/25/2013 3:14:35 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Nachum

Wow, the Israelis are tricking Palis into showers only to gas them and later destroy the remains in crematoriums? And the entire world has just ignored it, or censored it? They have rounded up so many Palis that they are practically extinct in Israel and its immediate environs? They have passed “Pali laws” making it verboten for Palis to be seen without a crescent moon sewn to their clothes? And the whole world has conspired to hide these heinous facts? Unbelievable. I mean, literally unbelievable. As in, I don’t believe it.


6 posted on 01/25/2013 3:14:50 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Nachum
I love it when British socialists lecture Jews on the Holocaust.


7 posted on 01/25/2013 3:16:13 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Nachum

All those nasty Jewish gas chambers and crematoriums full of Palestinians!/s


8 posted on 01/25/2013 3:18:19 PM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: Nachum

But if you ask a palestinian they will say the Holocaust never happened so according to the Pali’s the British idiot is wrong.

I love it when their stupid logic backfires..


9 posted on 01/25/2013 3:18:27 PM PST by GraceG
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To: KC_Lion

My first response....thanks for posting


10 posted on 01/25/2013 3:19:24 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Nachum

with all the money tossed down the Palestinian toilet, they still cannot treat their own water, supply their own power, or do any of the other basic thing even third world countries can do. They and their defenders are quite embarrassing actually..


11 posted on 01/25/2013 3:30:30 PM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: Nachum
I swear that Britain has to be the most guilt ridden nihilistic country on the face of the planet. These poor sods won't be happy until all of their infidel heads roll from their muslim masters. How's that sharia law working out for you, dumb asses? You may want to think twice before throwing Israel under the bus, they have plenty of experience on how to deal with radical islamists. Oh, and the Jews have a rigid spine, unlike the English.
12 posted on 01/25/2013 3:30:39 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: SatinDoll
“Dear David Ward: the Jews learned quite well those lessons of the Holocaust.”

Well, the Jews in Israel learned, the Jews in this country are another matter.

Year after year they vote like lemmings for the party that continually gives aid and comfort to their sworn enemies.

So much for learning.

14 posted on 01/25/2013 3:36:03 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Nachum
I think that Jews learned (well,most of them did at least) that when an individual,group,political party (or religious "faith") specifically states,both verbally and in writing,that that he/she/they intend to wipe out the Jews there's a distinct possibility that 1) they mean it and 2) they have the ability to achieve their goal.

Read the koran,pal....it's translated into English for *your* convenience.

15 posted on 01/25/2013 3:55:49 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Red State Secession Is The Only Answer)
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To: Nachum

Dear MP Ward,
the Jews and their millions of good Christian (and other) friends have indeed learned the lesson of ww2

Israel WILL defend itself, no matter how many stupid statements are made by outsiders

(it is true that the Jews did not seem to learn this lesson from the mass murder at the tower of York in 1190, nor from the English expulsion in 1290. But, finally, they have learned....at long last... and nothing you or anybody else can say or do can change that. Aren’t you glad the stupid Jews have finally got the message right?)


16 posted on 01/25/2013 4:02:04 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: faithhopecharity

ps to the MP:

but the British government lost its credibility to comment or give advice to Israel when the House of Commons approved the Chamberlain-MacDonald White Paper (stab in the back of Israel on 23 May 1939 — just when Israel and the Jews needed British support the most)

no doubt the Israelis appreciate the millions of good British people, but Israel does NOT appreciate, nor desire, any more unsolicited neo-Nazi style “advice” .. thank you anyway...

You are a gross embarrassment to the British people (and good Christians everywhere)


17 posted on 01/25/2013 4:10:55 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: I cannot think of a name

I suggest you look at the history of Jews in Europe. They were prevented in many places from owning land or from participating in most professions. They thus tended towards political thinking that most of us would consider radical and socialism is very popular among many Jews.

Jews have experienced bigotry in this nation, being excluded from business clubs and even golf clubs. Some of the famous golf clubs in southern California were started by Jewish movie stars, such as Groucho Marx, who was prevented from joining established clubs around Los Angeles.


18 posted on 01/25/2013 4:16:04 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Nachum

What a pathetic piece of detritus. He should move to ‘Palestine’.


19 posted on 01/25/2013 4:21:56 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: SatinDoll
Some of the famous golf clubs in southern California were started by Jewish movie stars, such as Groucho Marx, who was prevented from joining established clubs around Los Angeles.

I just learned recently that one of Boston's major hospitals (Boston has a number of famous hospitals) was founded by Jewish doctors because the other hospitals of the city wouldn't accept them.

20 posted on 01/25/2013 4:43:05 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Red State Secession Is The Only Answer)
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To: SatinDoll

“Jews have experienced bigotry in this nation, being excluded from business clubs and even golf clubs.”

And what does this have to do with consistently voting democrap?

When did FDR (mister do absolutely nothing while Jews were being murdered) become a Republican? When did every business that turned away Jews become a Republican establishment? And as far as socialism, none of them moved to Russia, where Stalin was only slightly less effective at killing them than Hitler.

And for something a little more recent:

“One of the most prominent figures at John Kerry’s nominating convention was the Rev. Al Sharpton, who seemed almost as fixed a presence at Kerry’s side the night of his acceptance speech as were the nominee’s wife and vice presidential candidate John Edwards.

Yet, it is common knowledge that this failed contender for the Democratic nomination incited anti-Jewish violence in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn in 1991 and in Harlem in 1995. In the latter incident he encouraged the explicitly anti-Semitic boycott and picketing of a Jewish-owned store named “Freddy’s.” Eight employees of the store were killed in a fire started by one of Sharpton’s followers.”

Sorry, but Jews supporting democraps is like blacks supporting the Confederacy - makes no sense at all.


21 posted on 01/25/2013 5:48:49 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Nachum

“suffering by the Jews has not transformed their views on how others should be treated.”

How in the world can their be peace in the middle east when those darn Jews insist on defending themselves? /s


22 posted on 01/25/2013 5:49:03 PM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: SatinDoll

Emotionally a good argument, but strategically flawed. Jews were thrown out of Israel for over 1700 years. Coming back after WW2 in huge numbers displacing Arabs who live there will ignite ethnic conflict. Muslim Arabs by nature are not tolerant. Now we have a strategic mess dragging the US into a long costly conflict with the Islamic Arab world. In the beginning the Arabs ran away in battle, but they now have found a new weapon, their religion and not fearing death, the suicide bomber. Arabs in Israel do not like their Jewish rulers, even if their lives are better and democratic. That is the nature of Arabs, they are not Americans or Europeans. The US backs Israel in the ME and the Arabs will be on our backs till Israel is destroyed. Question is can the US afford such a conflict while in huge debt? I think the Iraq War and Afghanistan War provides us the answer. US will abandon Israel. So when the US backed the partition in 1948 did the US do the Jewish survivors a real favor or did we set them up for another Holocaust?


23 posted on 01/25/2013 6:06:56 PM PST by Fee
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To: Nachum

A quote from Iranian school book from a chapter on Paganism:

“...Ancient people were primitive and unaware about Jews. For that reason they falsely blamed the powers of nature for their troubles. That led people to personalization of these powers...”


24 posted on 01/25/2013 6:08:15 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Nachum

Good grief! Western leftists are all twisted and jacked up to rationalize the justified mass murder of eeeevil Jews...AGIAN!

In past, I took comfort in the US being the rock or safe haven of the world for Jews (and Christians) should European leftists ever fly off the deep end of hating and demonizing the Jews again. But the same mentality has now set into American leftists their Dear Reader.

Whereas before Obama, the American Left did not have the centralized power and machine to murder a group of people enmass, today with the American police state and the machinery of Homeland InSecurity, I can’t say that anymore -at least for orthodox Jews and Christians on American soil.

Obama and his leftist pals in Europe are getting ready to impose Obama’s terms for a peace agreement on Israel. Of all the times for BiBi’s power to be weakened in Israel, this is a bad time. The American and European Left have risen to power and have not only placed radical Islam in power over the Arab Nations surrounding Israel; they have actually joined radical Islam in their cause against Israel and Christians.

We are living in interesting times, unfortunately.


25 posted on 01/25/2013 6:36:51 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

http://baruchsbreeze.blogspot.com/2012/12/kabbalist-calls-for-jews-to-return-home.html

Kabbalist Calls for Jews to Return Home

A Kabbalist Elder in Bnei Brak told his students on Friday, Dec.21, 2012 that time is running out for Diaspora Jews to return to the Jewish State.

Rabbi Eliyahu Leon Levi, a 73-year-old sage of Turkish Jewish descent who continues a tradition of Kabbalah from his grandfather and father, issued a passionate cry for the Jews of the United States to purchase homes in Israel and begin planning their move.

He said that just like in Iran before the Shah was ousted, the Jews were prospering financially. But then suddenly everything changed, and many couldn’t leave with their wealth.

“A similar scenario will occur in the USA,” he warned. Jews must leave and take their money with them. The day will come when they won’t be able to leave with their wealth,” he said...


26 posted on 01/25/2013 6:50:55 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: I cannot think of a name

“...Jews supporting democraps is like blacks supporting the Confederacy - makes no sense at all...”

I agree, but their millenia-long experiences tell them differently.


27 posted on 01/25/2013 7:53:38 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Fee

Some Jews left Israel, but not all. Jews have been there since time immemorial.

You’ve been lied to.


28 posted on 01/25/2013 7:55:27 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Nachum

Last I looked, there were no Jews feeding Palestinians into ovens, and the only ‘camps’ are the ones the rest of the Arab world left the Palestinians in so they would get radicalized.


29 posted on 01/25/2013 9:30:07 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Nachum. He's visited Auschwitz twice as a tourist, and still hates the Jews (evidenced by the FACT that he lies about them) hence, he needs a little lesson of his own.
He later defended his comments in interviews, saying they were a “just a statement of fact”, and adding that “it appears that the suffering by the Jews has not transformed their views on how others should be treated.”
Actually, Jews created Israel in large part BECAUSE of what Europeans like Ward did to European Jewry -- IOW, they learned the only possible lesson that comes from the Holocaust, that they need their own state.


30 posted on 01/26/2013 9:50:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: factoryrat
Dont judge us all by David Ward. He is a Liberal Democrat, which basically means he is a child. They have been a minor party of the center left for decades - generations - and most of their members are totally sold on the joys of putting it to "the man". Basically they sit on the sidelines and point out why everyone else is wrong, which is very enjoyable. They get to feel morally superior to working politicians and there is no possible come back against their naively ridiculous alternative policies, because everyone knew there was no chance that they would ever be tried out. Well, now they ARE in government in the UK, albeit as the minor partner in a coalition with the Conservatives, and they are involved in all the decision making, with all its maneouvering and compromises. The result is obvious. Their membership has halved (its not fun being grown up) and their share of the vote has plummeted.

These statements are not to be taken seriously. The only life lesson you can take from them is to illustrate just how much of a disaster living in fantasy land can be.

31 posted on 01/29/2013 8:43:45 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: faithhopecharity; All
A little note from a UK Freeper.

David Ward is a liberal democrat, which would basically correspond to the more radical elements of the US Democrat party.

David Ward is an MP for the city of Bradford, which coincidentally has one of the highest proportions of Muslims (and therefore Muslim voters) in the UK.

These two facts might just possibly assist you in putting his comments into context...

32 posted on 01/29/2013 8:56:38 AM PST by Vanders9
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