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Plouffe: President Has Enough Votes to Pass Gun Control
Newsmax ^ | Sunday, 20 Jan 2013 11:28 AM | Amy Woods

Posted on 01/20/2013 12:15:03 PM PST by Olog-hai

White House adviser David Plouffe said Sunday that he believes President Barack Obama has sufficient votes in Congress to pass gun-control legislation. …

Appearing on CNN’s “State of the Union,” which was televised from the National Mall in Washington D.C., Plouffe said he believes the White House has 60 votes in the Senate and 218 in the House from Democrats and Republicans.

He also predicted that immigration reform will make it through Congress. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; obama; plouffe; rino; rubberstampcongress; secondamendment; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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We certainly shall see who the RINO rubber stampers are online. Will there be enough voters out there to primary them?
1 posted on 01/20/2013 12:15:19 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

How many votes does he have to come and take my guns one bullet at a time?


2 posted on 01/20/2013 12:18:58 PM PST by jimpick
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To: Olog-hai

Gee I thought there would be more of a fight when the tyrants showed up.

Imagine my disappointment....


3 posted on 01/20/2013 12:21:07 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: Olog-hai

The GOPe will probably cave on every major issue this session


4 posted on 01/20/2013 12:21:21 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Olog-hai

Pass this crap and things are gonna heat up quickly.


5 posted on 01/20/2013 12:21:21 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: jimpick

That is the fear ... them folks know that each Magazine can Vote 10... 20... 30,,, 50? times

But they look on the bright side, More Dead Voters,

TT


6 posted on 01/20/2013 12:21:37 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: Olog-hai
We certainly shall see who the RINO rubber stampers are online.

Yep. We're in a time of great choosing. Do we choose the Constitution, or do we choose Communism?
We'll see which politician chooses Communism and which politician chooses the Constitution. It's going to be all out in the open from now on.

7 posted on 01/20/2013 12:21:53 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Olog-hai

If the GOP caves it will be third party time.


8 posted on 01/20/2013 12:24:51 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Olog-hai

I figure he’s Pluffing, but if not, this is a GREAT OPPORTUNITY for us.

The IDIOT Republicans that fall for this will be hanging shingles in the spring of 2015, after having lost their Primaries to Tea Party people that are not all that enthralled with sucking up to the President.

There are lots of us...probably every single one of us...on this site that would JUST LOVE to see them dispatched.


9 posted on 01/20/2013 12:25:19 PM PST by BobL
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To: Olog-hai
“Enough votes to pass gun control”

Pigs can fly too!

10 posted on 01/20/2013 12:25:50 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: Tzimisce

freedom dies with resounding applause


11 posted on 01/20/2013 12:27:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: TexasTransplant
But they look on the bright side, More Dead Voters,

An honest, law abiding citizen gets to keep 7 bullets. The criminal has 30-50 rounds.
Who's side are the politicians on? The citizens, or the criminals?
It's time for them to let us know who they're REALLY trying to protect.

12 posted on 01/20/2013 12:27:29 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

This “evil gun” push is coming hard and from all sides.

Today at church one of of our prayers of the faithful was “that all people pray for our legislatures to pass more laws controlling the distribution of guns.

Then I got home and read out Catholic newspaper, The Compass, which contained two anti-gun, pro-editorials.

It seems that many church officials have not learned from history.


13 posted on 01/20/2013 12:28:06 PM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: Olog-hai

There isn’t going to be a law make it through the Senate before the midterms.
Way too many rats from pro gun states up for reelection.
Plus Harry owes the NRA and has recently expressed doubt about an AWB.
Not that I trust that little pissant, but I think the WH will make a play at gun control just to force the GOP to oppose it.


14 posted on 01/20/2013 12:28:38 PM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: concerned about politics

I’m reminded of the Swiss aphorism “shoot twice and go home”. Look it up.


15 posted on 01/20/2013 12:29:54 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: Farmer Dean
” . . . gonna heat up quickly”

I hate to tell ya, from several people I have spoke to, who are apolitical in every sense, are so pissed right now, they want to get this fight on and over with as soon as possible. I am not talking about a verbal fight either!

I have never seen or heard Americans this pissed off in my young life!

No sir, this is exactly what this administration wants, is a fight with the American people over their right to guns. Careful what they wish for . . .

16 posted on 01/20/2013 12:30:37 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: concerned about politics

That is very simple to answer since the vast majority of politicians are criminals.


17 posted on 01/20/2013 12:32:00 PM PST by Kadric
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To: Farmer Dean

we said that with obamacare.

we had enough purists who gave us obama two.

they have total, including fnc, control of the msm.

they have absolute control of ballot box fraud.

we push came to shove, conservatives hid in the bunker hold and did no substative fighting.


18 posted on 01/20/2013 12:33:40 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Olog-hai

I am highly skeptical of this assertion. If that were so, the bill would already be in front of the Senate and would get slammed through right after the Inaugration.


19 posted on 01/20/2013 12:37:35 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Olog-hai

How would Plouffe know they have enough republican votes?

He is just setting up the template for the MSM talking points

He is blowing smoke among other things...


20 posted on 01/20/2013 12:39:38 PM PST by Popman
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To: Olog-hai

I’m not going to have to worry about primarying my representative but I will certainly help defeat any RINOs that side with Obama on immigration or gun control. We will gut those effers, turn them inside out, and hang them over the fence for the rest of their RINO buddies to see.


21 posted on 01/20/2013 12:42:55 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Do they have 200 million yet? Because that’s the number voting against it. And we have the guns. And the rope.

Thanks Olog-hai.


22 posted on 01/20/2013 12:43:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Olog-hai

David Pluff: “We have blackmailed enough people to vote for our tyranny to P.O. the electorate so gthat their corrct abnger will be used as an excuse for our hostile takeover.”


23 posted on 01/20/2013 12:45:07 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: centurion316

He’s projecting. But you can bet your nippy, his campaign apparatchik will go on a road tour making the same claim all over the country on our dime to push the message. And the sheep goes baaaaaaaahhhhhh.


24 posted on 01/20/2013 12:45:56 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Yooper4Life
Today at church one of of our prayers of the faithful was “that all people pray for our legislatures to pass more laws controlling the distribution of guns.

You didn't walk out?

25 posted on 01/20/2013 12:46:38 PM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Yooper4Life

This is exactly why membership in many Church’s is plummeting. They stopped paying attention to the Bible and and started reading the the Democrat Party Bible.


26 posted on 01/20/2013 12:46:55 PM PST by matt04
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To: Olog-hai

Do the RINOs walk into the Capital building with there arms straight up or with their hands clasped behind their heads?


27 posted on 01/20/2013 12:51:10 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Eaker

After the Church I used to attend went far left liberal, I stopped going. When I attended they had probably 3-500 active members and probably 150-200 each week. Now they are lucky to get 100-125. Hasn’t stopped them from begging me for money even though I haven’t attend in 5+ years.


28 posted on 01/20/2013 12:51:33 PM PST by matt04
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To: Yooper4Life

It looks like you and I need to find a new church.........


29 posted on 01/20/2013 12:51:55 PM PST by basil (basil)
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To: BobL

You’re right, Plouffe is pluffing.

Whenever some lib makes leading statements like “the vast majority of NRA life members support Pres. Obama’s call for a common-sense ban on assault weapons & the jailing of those who own them” you know it’s a lie in search of validation.

Plouffe - that’s French for Goebbels.


30 posted on 01/20/2013 12:51:58 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Yooper4Life
Today at church one of of our prayers of the faithful was “that all people pray for our legislatures to pass more laws controlling the distribution of guns.

"He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

I would have walked out. It sounds like they're an apostate teaching the doctrine of demons. A lot of churches these days say things that do nothing but tickle the ears and fill up the collection plate. (They're getting their 30 pieces of silver.)

31 posted on 01/20/2013 12:53:53 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Olog-hai

I can’t believe how many Freepers believe Plouffe, because even Plouffe doesn’t believe Plouffe.


32 posted on 01/20/2013 12:54:06 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Olog-hai

I sure hope this Plouffter ends up disappointed.

Though no one will be taking my guns away, I don’t want there to be trouble. Those on this forum that seem so eager to get it on with whatever force will come for our guns perhaps have no idea of how miserable a conflict of any magnitude will be. It will be quite easy for the gov’t to disable the infrastructure that supports life around most of this country. The best prepared preppers and protagonists will have a battle on at least two fronts; against gov’t forces suppressing the remaining bitter clingers and the mobs of unprepared people looking for food and shelter for their families. Not to mention poisoned, or otherwise compromised water and food supplies, infections and potential biological or chemical weapons used against the public. I don’t doubt for a second that the current administration would resort to these in short order.


33 posted on 01/20/2013 12:54:37 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: Yooper4Life

That wouldn’t be my church anymore, period.


34 posted on 01/20/2013 12:57:54 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

I do believe that is the future of America no matter what action is taken at this time.

This country is in total free fall, it is at terminal velocity, and nothing is going to stop the fall other than the hard, cold ground.


35 posted on 01/20/2013 12:59:24 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

What do you mean, IF the GOP caves.

It is a given. Go along to get along, otherwise the people who write blurbs for newspapers and TV opinion programs will point and laugh at you.

Not that these same people aren’t already pointing and laughing at you. Up to now, it has just been behind your back.

Not third party time. Secede and form a new nation time.

The blueprint is already there. Just separate the country by congressional district/counties between the “red” areas and the “blue” areas, and carve the Reunited States out of the “red” area. We get to keep the existing Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. The little “blue” republics (and there will be a lot of them) get to keep whatevr set of cockamamie rules they want, except the right to emigrate to the “red” region without a very extensive background check.


36 posted on 01/20/2013 12:59:34 PM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: Olog-hai

If they do this, the government may be attacked at its weakest link. The weakest link is the IRS. Without revenue, even despite money printing and borrowing, the credit rating will plummet. It’s just like a huge debtor that has just lost his job with no ability to pay: they are hopeless and beyond deadbeat status.
Perhaps there will be massive tax revolt, but I doubt it. However, if the attempted seizure of guns leads to civil unrest, it’s a new game. What does the IRS have to do with this game changer? IRS employees and families could become targets. Capture a high ranking IRS IT guy and hack the whole system.
The Federal government simply cannot operate w/o the IRS and revenue.


37 posted on 01/20/2013 1:01:43 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I’d go vote for a Third Party, but by next election cycle i’ll probably be too busy returning fire...


38 posted on 01/20/2013 1:01:43 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: alloysteel

There is a problem with that though.

If we make no changes, the same thing will occur in the Reunited Sates.

Allowing the enemies of freedom the freedom to spread their poison and further teach that poison to our children in a systematic institutionalized manner is the doom of any free society.

If a society is to remain free, it must snuff out the termites as soon as they are discovered, no questions asked. It must make only free people with each generation that follows. What is being made now are slaves, and they are slaves who wish to be slaves because that is all they have been taught.


39 posted on 01/20/2013 1:04:31 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: GeronL
So this is how liberty dies...

Say what you will about the prequels, but the rise of the emporer nailed it.

40 posted on 01/20/2013 1:07:16 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: basil
It looks like you and I need to find a new church.........

Perhaps some of us should put our heads together and write a "Stay out of secular business and quit assisting the modern-day Nazis...." thesis and spread it around, suggesting that it be nailed to church doors. That might get someone's attention.

41 posted on 01/20/2013 1:11:47 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: chris37

When I look toward the future with my own eyes, I see that too.

When I think what God can do, I see great hope. All the bad going down right now can be reversed or corrected if only we truly have revival.

I do, however, as just Mr. BCC, see the U.S.A. now as the Biblical Sodom and Gomorrah, with not 10 righteous men.


42 posted on 01/20/2013 1:12:57 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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To: Vince Ferrer

The prequels ****ing sucked!

But every now and then there are lines from movies that are widsdom, even prophetic.

That was one of those lines. It simply cannot be more accurate.


43 posted on 01/20/2013 1:12:57 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Olog-hai

He is talking nonsense.


44 posted on 01/20/2013 1:13:55 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: concerned about politics

This prayer of the faithful is from mass in the Catholic church, I am
Catholic and this infuriates me!!! The church jumped on the healthcare
bandwagon and then got thrown under the bus with our religious rights!!!
Well I guess when the time comes that ALL religious FREEDOM is
taken the church will be thrilled that there are no guns to stand up to
the tyranny against the church!!! I am ashamed to be a Catholic!!!!


45 posted on 01/20/2013 1:14:34 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: jimpick

**** “How many votes does he have to come and take my guns one bullet at a time?” ****

Police your Brass ... especially in the beginning

TT


46 posted on 01/20/2013 1:15:40 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: Olog-hai

if you have to say that you have the votes...means you’re not even close.


47 posted on 01/20/2013 1:16:29 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

You know, I am not the most religious man in this world. I have my troubles with religion.

But even I have enough sense to know that Jesus Christ is the key to every single thing.

I believe that man must allow Jesus to live in him and to live through him, becaue if man does not, then something else lives in him.

Without Jesus, man cannot govern himself.


48 posted on 01/20/2013 1:17:13 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: matt04
A Draft Letter for Your Pastor
49 posted on 01/20/2013 1:17:20 PM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: alloysteel

I like the way you think.


50 posted on 01/20/2013 1:19:09 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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