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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 20 January 2013
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 20 January 2013 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 01/20/2013 5:04:46 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



January 20th, 2013

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): David Plouffe, adviser to President Barack Obama; Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Ted Cruz, R-Texas; David Axelrod, adviser to President Barack Obama.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Plouffe; Condoleezza Rice, secretary of state under President George W. Bush; Dee Dee Myers, former press secretary for President Bill Clinton; Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-Texas; Mayor Julian Castro of San Antonio..

THIS WEEK (ABC): Plouffe; actress Eva Longoria, co-chairman of the Presidential Inaugural Committee.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Plouffe; Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo.; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; Don Baer, a former Clinton speechwriter; Michael Gerson, a former Bush speechwriter; former Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis.


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1 posted on 01/20/2013 5:04:51 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: acapesket; A.Hun; aligncare; altura; Bender2; Bernard; bray; cajungirl; Carley; CDB; chickadee; ...
This is the Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread Ping List! If you want to be on it, reply to this post or FReepmail me (in case I miss it). If you want to be taken off, simply send me a FReepmail.

ABC’s really drinking the Obama Koolaid this morning!

2 posted on 01/20/2013 5:05:59 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
C-SPAN Radio, available on the net also, click here, broadcasts all five Sunday talk shows starting at 12:00 noon Eastern, as follows:

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM NBC's "Meet the Press"

1:00 PM - 2:00 PM ABC's "This Week"

2:00 PM - 3:00 PM "Fox News Sunday"

3:00 PM - 4:30 PM CNN's "State of the Union"

4:30 PM - 5:00 PM CBS's "Face The Nation"

Listen at the link above WHILE you FReep!

3 posted on 01/20/2013 5:07:08 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All
Here are the email addresses or web pages for commenting to the weekend talk shows:

Meet the Press Meet the Press mailbox (web page for comments)

Face the Nation ftn@cbsnews.com

Fox News Sunday FNS@foxnews.com

ABC This Week thisweek@abc.com

CNN State of the Union CNN State of the Union (web page for comments)

4 posted on 01/20/2013 5:07:34 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: All; bray

“The Sunday Morning Bray”, by Bray!

that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious Freedom of the children of God. Rom 8:21

According to the Obama Rule, Americans have certain Rights. They have the right to Obamacare; they have the right to unemployment, the right to an abortion and contraceptive as well as marriage. What they don’t have a right to are their guns or to worship their God and Bible as they see fit. It appears to the President the only rights we don’t have are the ones in the Constitution while the only ones we do have are those which the Party leaders declare as rights, most of which have nothing to do with personal rights or freedoms.

The commies and their pundiots only have a couple of rights they really need to take away. They say citizens have no right to own a weapon which people could defend themselves against intruders and eliminate their need for an all powerful gummit to defend them. The other right they need to end is the right to their religion. Religions are a threat to Stalinists since they stand in the way of a godlike gummit. Christians tend to be more independent and self sufficient with arcane ideas like putting their faith and hope in God rather than Obama. They also tend to believe in morality and personal responsibility which goes against the teachings of their… prophet Obama.

Christians and religious people do not look for the government to tell them what the state dictates right and wrong when they have a Bible which clearly explains right from wrong. The liberal establishment uses terms like right to an abortion since it sounds attractive as they know it will have an emotional connection with women. They use the same argument about homosexual marriage that homosexuals have the mythical right to marry since the liberals have decided it is a right. This all sounds warm and fuzzy enough to get votes but it takes away the rights of individuals and churches to reject the option to provide or fund abortions or perform homosexual marriages. So the Christians have to give up their rights so the Democrats can allow a small minority to have additional rights.

The anti-gun zealots have been trying to take away the peoples’ right to keep and bear arms for nearly fifty years. They understand the need to eliminate enough freedom to control citizens. When a Democrat offers a right it is as a need to either manipulate the masses into believing they are doing good or redistribution of wealth or freedom. In the case of guns it is to take freedoms away from people while manipulating women’s fears to the liberal point of view. Real men don’t care about people owning guns so the liberal establishment plays on fear to make people believe they will be safer under gun control and elimination. It has nothing to do with facts or proof the media establishment will sell this narrative to the uninformed until it becomes a believed truth like Global Warming. Anybody who argues the truth of the matter will be a heretic and destroyed.

With the three pillars of power, academia, media and the DNC they can manipulate the people into giving up their freedom and income through a sophisticated sales triad. Until and when people begin to ignore and fight this triad we will continue to be sold these myths to steal our rights and freedoms. Until we have elected officials who say no and stand up to these pillars we will continue to become more and more a soviet style dictatorship and less of a free republic. There is only one way to stop this and that is to elect conservatives rather than moderates who would rather slow the loss of freedom rather than regain it.

The gun taking is simply another method for Premier Obama to consolidate his dictatorial powers inside the District of Corruption. He knows he will not be challenged allowing him to take guns from law abiding citizens and forcing them to rely on their police to protect them rather than themselves. This is a dangerous path which will give him more power over the individual. The triad has to point at the guns and conservatives who own those guns as the villain otherwise they would have to look at the breakdown of society as the issue. Rather than pointing out the possibility the kid in Denver who dressed up like the Joker at the opening of a Batman movie may have been acting out fantasy into reality, they pointed at his gun magazine. They wouldn’t even consider the possibility that shoving violent movies and video games down boys’ throats may cause them to wonder what it would be like to actually kill people rather virtually. No, that would open the possibility of axing real questions about our social breakdown thanks to those same people.

What we have with the President and his socialist allies is a redefining of rights as a way of removing our true rights. This is a craven move to become a more dictatorial country to take the final step to a soviet country. We have already lost most of our rights through nationalizing the banking, auto, healthcare and soon the oil that they must redefine what a right is and what is not. What are not rights are the ones which give us individual freedom such as religion and guns. What they define as rights are what give more and more control to gummit such as healthcare, birth control, housing, unemployment and secondary education. We know who provides and determines versus who receive those benies…er…rights and who won’t. Party members will and do receive the graft while non-Party members do not or want. It is a corrupt system that is over a century old and now they have perfected it to a near dictatorship which is going to be hard if not impossible to defeat. Hello Hollywood and goodbye Freedom.

Pray for America

Note: The above opinion is not necessarily my own, but FReeper Bray’s. If you wish to discuss this, please ping Bray.


5 posted on 01/20/2013 5:08:06 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for thread A.B. NFL Championship Sunday. Let’s hope NRA can outlast Bambi.


6 posted on 01/20/2013 5:12:37 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: bray; Alas Babylon!

a bit negative there Bray, but the stark reminders of what we face are needed.

I just read a piece that our comeback lies in the States (which can then again become “united” states). Opting out of Obamacare, cutting back on entitlements, incrementally and then maybe altogether. Feds can laugh at the red states in flyover land, but that is the key.

26 state Attorneys Generals joined in a law suit against Obamacare. That is over half the states (unless you use Bambi’s count). And still the USSCt turned a blind eye and a deaf ear

There simply must be a way to force resolution of important issues before the USSCt. They have batted back these issues on grounds of lack of standing, prematuraty, unripeness, etc. But we need them to address:

1. Does not abortion deprive “life” from the unborn child? If state legislatures define life as beginning at conception (instead of viability outside womb), can the Court say it is OK to ignore the baby’s right to life? Does the father of the unborn child have any rights or say in the matter?

2. Can Obamacare force companies to pay their employees for abortions and contraceptives if that runs counter to owner of company’s religious views? If political contributions are permitted from corporations as “persons” (Citizens United v FEC), why can’t corporations be considered persons with vested religious freedoms?

The Court is ducking too many issues. The attorney advocacy is pathetic and possibly compromised (intimidated by Chicago style gangsta street punk tactics.)


7 posted on 01/20/2013 5:34:24 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: Alas Babylon!
Something for Patriots and historians on FR to consider today,
after being systematically lied to by the MSM,
now, and for the last four years.

On July 25th, 1787, John Jay wrote to George Washington,
then Presiding Officer of the Constitutional Convention:

"“Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable
to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners
into the administration of our national Government;
and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American Army
shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

The Convention agreed and without debate the provision suggested by Jay
was written into the Constitution ... only to be ignored later.


8 posted on 01/20/2013 5:36:28 AM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray; All
With the three pillars of power, academia, media and the DNC they can manipulate the people into giving up their freedom and income through a sophisticated sales triad. Until and when people begin to ignore and fight this triad we will continue to be sold these myths to steal our rights and freedoms. Until we have elected officials who say no and stand up to these pillars we will continue to become more and more a soviet style dictatorship and less of a free republic. There is only one way to stop this and that is to elect conservatives rather than moderates who would rather slow the loss of freedom rather than regain it.

Wow talk about powerful stuff!!

Does not get any better!

So true as well leftward leaning academics brainwash our kids from cradle to grave while the media dutifully pushes out the messages from commie inspired radicals now in control of govt./DNC headquarters.

Bray hits a home run one more time!

9 posted on 01/20/2013 5:44:57 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Diogenesis

Great post. Hard to imagine this illegal is about to be sworn in again, illegally.


10 posted on 01/20/2013 5:48:11 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray
Excellent analysis as usual, bray!

When somebody smiles and tells you he is doing it "for your safety and protection", what he really means is he is doing is for his safety and protection!

11 posted on 01/20/2013 5:56:06 AM PST by Gritty (The 2nd Amendment protects the right to shoot tyrants effectively, not deer-Judge Andrew Napolitano)
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To: shalom aleichem

The states are where these battles must be fought. We are fighting it here in our state and have some victories.

Pray for America


12 posted on 01/20/2013 6:24:32 AM PST by bray (Welcome to Obamaville)
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To: rodguy911

It’s an all day Star Trek movie day on SciFi.


13 posted on 01/20/2013 6:27:32 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; All
David Plouffe, adviser to President Barack Obama

Bich lies at Mach II. Geeesh!

I do hope the good Senator will be Blunt.

14 posted on 01/20/2013 6:30:28 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray

Bray....stunning post-—as always.Thanks for taking the time for a great summary.


15 posted on 01/20/2013 6:32:47 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Funniest line of the day is when Wallace tells Puffer that they haven’t passed a budget since 2009 and puffer tells him they are making progress on it..


16 posted on 01/20/2013 6:33:31 AM PST by linn37 (w)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I’ll be back with a link about CBS...


17 posted on 01/20/2013 6:52:28 AM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: linn37
Funniest line of the day is when Wallace tells Puffer that they haven’t passed a budget since 2009 and puffer tells him they are making progress on it..

We are never ever supposed to measure a liberal on their results - only assess their good intentions.
18 posted on 01/20/2013 6:53:24 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: shalom aleichem

Question I ask is; What does a citizen do when the Supreme Court allows the bill as a Tax when the Democrats passed it as a Penalty, and still claim it’s a Penalty? Someone is wrong, and the macro-economy is already suffering.


19 posted on 01/20/2013 6:58:11 AM PST by Son House (Romney Plan: Cap Spending At 20 Percent Of GDP.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

CBS might be worse than ABC... Check this out - it’s a direct quote from CBS political director John Dickerson:

“The president who came into office speaking in lofty terms about bipartisanship and cooperation can only cement his legacy if he destroys the GOP. If he wants to transform American politics, he must go for the throat.”

So astonishingly wrote CBS News political director John Dickerson ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2979970/posts?q=1&;page=1


20 posted on 01/20/2013 7:01:44 AM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Thanks hippie. It may have been the hardest one I have written. Just a tough one to say.

Pray for America


21 posted on 01/20/2013 7:12:13 AM PST by bray (Welcome to Obamaville)
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To: linn37

This brings me to this concept of raising the debt ceiling for three months so they can come up with a budget.

Either the spineless pubs want to extend the debt ceiling but want to look tough about it.

OR...

Well the pubs could be SERIOUS about it.

If so, they will use that three months to get in public and grouse about the lack of budget.

ALL of them will mention the lack of budget EVERY time they are interviewed, they will mention that all Mayors of even the smallest towns must have a budget, that every Governor must pass a budget.

We shall see.


22 posted on 01/20/2013 7:18:22 AM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: rodguy911
A phony Inauguration for a phony President.
23 posted on 01/20/2013 7:20:42 AM PST by AU72
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To: AU72
A phony Inauguration for a phony President.

Did Obama swear to protect the Constitution or to protect the current fashionable 'in' ideas of liberal elites?

24 posted on 01/20/2013 7:25:14 AM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: bray
I agree about the states, but I'm not sure we can defeat the Leftist states... If even defeat is the term. So many people just want to be left alone, but too many on the Left want the government to become bigger, stronger, and more intrusive. The Left doesn't see it that way, but that is what they're (and us) getting...

I think a divorce is in our future as the best way to handle it.

Too many times I've heard politicians say they'll fight for you, or fight for this, or fight for that... Well who are they fighting? We really need to understand that to the democrats, driveby media (same) and Obama, they are fighting us.

Despite they're saying they're fighting the gun LOBBY, they really mean they are fighting gun OWNERS.

And on and on...

We are becoming two peoples. Neither can or even should “defeat” the other. We should be allowed to go our separate ways.

As an Alabamian, I'm reluctant to say secede. I went to a football game in Montgomery yesterday, the Raycom Collegiate All Star Classic. I drove by the First Confederate White House, a historical landmark here. I started thinking of the disaster that was the Civil War, how slavery was wrong, and how while so many from here fought for Southern freedom, I wished that slavery was never an issue. Maybe, just maybe, we can have a true free republic again but I pray to the Almighty it will not be bloody and we're allowed to simply go our separate ways.

25 posted on 01/20/2013 7:27:04 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: AU72

0bama would not have the required public ceremony, since NFL football throws up too much competition for eyeballs


26 posted on 01/20/2013 7:35:11 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Alas Babylon!

Ironically I am within 6 mos of finishing a novel about the secession of Texas and what happens when you have a free market society take over. It is a pretty good story.

Pray for America


27 posted on 01/20/2013 7:43:13 AM PST by bray (Welcome to Obamaville)
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To: MestaMachine
Yeah for sure.

Now watching MTP with all an all dem panel and Morning Joe without this Morning ho' running down the Republicans.It's a real laugh.

28 posted on 01/20/2013 7:47:15 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: AU72

Yeah that’s about it. There was move to force him to prove who he was where and when he was born, but as usual little happened.


29 posted on 01/20/2013 7:50:00 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: GOPJ

Time to depend on ourselves and stop whining about how the DBM ios so unfair!! We already know that!!


30 posted on 01/20/2013 7:51:39 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Amen to that.

...however, I’m afraid that there isn’t going to be anything but bad come of this.

Only question is when, and the way the libs are pushing their agenda right now, the time scale might just be in months rather than years...or maybe even less.

I’m just keeping all of the kids and grandkids close as I can....


31 posted on 01/20/2013 7:52:37 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: GOPJ
id Obama swear to protect the Constitution or to protect the current fashionable 'in' ideas of liberal elites?

If no one is going to take the remedies proscribed in our founding documents, then what does it matter? We are now a nation of NO laws and have entered into a post-Consitutional era.

The people to blame for this are many and varied -

1) All 57 Secretaries of State

2) The RAT party for validating their candidates - has anyone seen the 2012 equivalent of the 2008 Pelosi letter(s - both of them) saying Zero is qualified,

3) All Federal courts who refuse to allow standing and/or refuse to adjudicate this mess,

4) The Electoral College delegates,

5) The Congress when it meets to certify the Electoral College votes,

6) The GOP led House for refusing to IMPEACH the commie usurper, as well as the currently dysfunctional Senate who has refused to perform it's Constittional mandated duties and would never even conduct an Impeachment trial, and most importantly of all -

7) A completely ignorant don't care electorate who are still suffering from the slave guilt complex of a century ago, and worship this idol rather then the one we have been instructed in the bible to worship.

This article covers the issue adequately in my mind........ Does Obama Really Meet The Constitutional Definition Of A ‘Natural Born Citizen?’
32 posted on 01/20/2013 7:54:52 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray; rodguy911; shalom aleichem

I think we can assume that the Marxist state here in America will collapse in a manner resembling the Marxist collapses of the 20th century.

For one thing, the elitist structure just becomes a tightening noose around its own neck, purging more and more of its own members as the pie gets smaller. Support eventually erodes as the numbers are such that the tank commanders sent to the breakaway parliament are rather easily persuaded to turn their cannons around and point them at the ruling establishment.

For another, sheer decadence and particularly moral decay inside the primary institutions gives rise to legacy moral causes and structures, aka Christianity. When Gdansk was a labor-only movement it was one thing; when it became a Christian movement too, that was ballgame.

Also, the sheer impossibility of a centrally planned economy takes it toll. Look for black markets to begin to emerge here—then you’ll know the writing is on the wall. You already see education and media going underground in a post-modern sense. From home-schooling to log-on universities to conservative news outlets online, you see the new black market already taking shape and crimping the Marxist establishment at Harvard or CBS or the New York Times. Think of a place like FR as the sound of Solzenhitsyn tapping on the wall of his gulag cell to spread the word. I’m expecting black market health care arrangements of some sort to counter Obamacare. Why not? They crushed one kulak and yet another rose up elsewhere.

This communism thing fails. Always has, always will.


33 posted on 01/20/2013 8:17:12 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: bray

Same is true in Ohio.

Former US Senator Mike DeWine is doing good things as Attorney General, and of course Governor John Kasich has another 6 years (term limits) to keep up his Gov. Walker Wisconsin typoe efforts. The maybe DeWine will step in to keep it rolling.


34 posted on 01/20/2013 8:36:25 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: PaleoBob

Well said Paleo, and a free market will rise from the ashes. It’s the only thing that can.

Pray for America


35 posted on 01/20/2013 8:36:57 AM PST by bray (Welcome to Obamaville)
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To: Cheerio

No, we still function under the Constitution. Those who don’t are criminals. No matter how much status or money or power... by definition they’re criminals.

If they’re operating outside the law, they’re outlaws.

The Constitution is the law of the land.

You’re wrong on this Cheerio. You’ve done a version of ‘everyone does it’... you had a mother who pointed out the flaw in that thinking, right?


36 posted on 01/20/2013 8:37:07 AM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: PaleoBob

The only thing, PaleoBob, is that the wheels of change grind slowly, and as the communist state slowly loses control a lot of people will pay with their lives. I “see” a vision of the future where they try to stamp us out—fail to completely—but suceed to kill way too many before it’s all over.

When Greece happens here it will be far worse, and they’ll strike out hard, blaming the Right for the troubles.


37 posted on 01/20/2013 8:42:18 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: PaleoBob

The only thing, PaleoBob, is that the wheels of change grind slowly, and as the communist state slowly loses control a lot of people will pay with their lives. I “see” a vision of the future where they try to stamp us out—fail to completely—but suceed to kill way too many before it’s all over.

When Greece happens here it will be far worse, and they’ll strike out hard, blaming the Right for the troubles.


38 posted on 01/20/2013 8:42:40 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
ABC’s really drinking the Obama Koolaid this morning!
Thank You, for the ping...
i'm sure ABCNNBCBS; were orgasmic, over the destruction
of the US Constitutional Protections of its populace
...


39 posted on 01/20/2013 8:54:17 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Fishtalk

The battle will be about sequestration according to Hume.


40 posted on 01/20/2013 9:09:26 AM PST by linn37
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To: skinkinthegrass

Kakistocracy got there first!(1829)

No need for neologisms.


41 posted on 01/20/2013 9:12:37 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: headsonpikes
Kakistocracy got there first! (1829)
Oh yeah...I rem: Governance by the worst (the most vile) of Society...
empty the Prisons...employment by Government...& get paid very very Well, to boot.

42 posted on 01/20/2013 9:21:48 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Foe those who can:

http://www.amazon.com/Getting-Out-Leaving-Expanded-Self-reliance/dp/1934170291/ref=pd_ys_sf_s_283155_b1_17_p


43 posted on 01/20/2013 9:38:20 AM PST by pugmama
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To: linn37; All

lol.

Did anyone catch Cruz and Schrumer on NBC? I was at church so missed all the morning shows.....did they discuss gun control....???


44 posted on 01/20/2013 9:59:23 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Alas Babylon!

The only thing, PaleoBob, is that the wheels of change grind slowly, and as the communist state slowly loses control a lot of people will pay with their lives. I “see” a vision of the future where they try to stamp us out—fail to completely—but suceed to kill way too many before it’s all over.

When Greece happens here it will be far worse, and they’ll strike out hard, blaming the Right for the troubles.


Yes. It will take a long time. And it will be ugly. And it might finally come down like the Ceaucescus did in Romania. You and I won’t see it fall. But like bray says, only freedom can win in the end.


45 posted on 01/20/2013 10:08:00 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Son House

What the Court has historically done regarding constitutional review of legislation is say well IF you would have enacted it as a “tax” then we could accept that, but you did not do so, so we must strike it down. You are welcome to go back and see if you can get the votes to pass it as a “tax”.

Of course we all know that would not be a successful errand.

The Court (i.e. CJ Roberts) simply gave them all the goodies in one dose, slicing across huge chunks of legal precedent and procedure just to get Obama of their spineless backs.


46 posted on 01/20/2013 10:14:19 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: PaleoBob

Really interesting post Bob. I can see much of what you assert already in the making. 60% of all cigarettes smoked in New York are contraband. And, NY is the center of liberalism!!Its happening.


47 posted on 01/20/2013 10:20:00 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Alas Babylon!
I'm not sure we can defeat the Leftist states... If even defeat is the term. So many people just want to be left alone, but too many on the Left want the government to become bigger, stronger, and more intrusive. The Left doesn't see it that way, but that is what they're (and us) getting...

........We are becoming two peoples. Neither can or even should “defeat” the other. We should be allowed to go our separate ways.

"They" won't let us. The more the left wins in elections or in some legislation that is passeed, the more they want to take, or control, or whathaveyou. "Winning" is like a drug for them. I've seen it in the liberals in my family (IL). They are not satisfied and are becoming more and more unreasonable and hateful in their demands/expectations since the election.

At this point, I don't know how to defeat the left. We have to try, they won't go away.....and they certainly will not leave us or future generations alone. They are nuts.
48 posted on 01/20/2013 11:25:40 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene

I think a lot of young and other people are liberal because it’s trendy to be one.

When push comes to shove, I think they’ll wooze out completely.

It will come down to our hard core versus theirs. That’s why they want to disarm us. As long as we stay armed, they lose.


49 posted on 01/20/2013 11:41:38 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Pathetic little thread you got here!

Only 50?

I feel like the wicked witch—I’m melting! What a world, what a world! LoL!


50 posted on 01/20/2013 11:43:50 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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