Posted on 01/14/2013 12:08:01 PM PST by Tirian
A key New York Senate leader and the Assembly speaker said they expect the state Legislature to vote Monday to enact what would be the nation's first gun control measure following last month's Connecticut school shooting.
"I think when all is said and done, we are going to pass a comprehensive gun bill today," Sen. Jeffrey Klein told reporters Monday morning. "I'm very excited about it. I am very confident we are going to vote on a comprehensive bill that will be agreed on by the governor, the Senate and Assembly."
People familiar with closed-door negotiations told The Associated Press a tentative deal was struck over the weekend.
The tentative agreement would further restrict New York's ban on assault weapons, limit the size of magazines to seven bullets, down from the current 10, and enact more stringent background checks for sales. Other elements, pushed by Republicans, would refine a mental health law to make it easier to confine people determined to be a threat to themselves or others.
Senate Republicans also have included a further crackdown on illegal gun trafficking into New York, the people said. Most New York City gun crimes involve weapons illegally brought into the state, state and city officials say.
the sooner they do this the better to the current supreme court can shoot it down for the unconstitutional garbage it is.
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There. Fixed it.
“Most New York City gun crimes involve weapons illegally brought into the state, state and city officials say.”
Of course this is true, everyone knows there are no guns in NYC.
Since this is being rushed through as a response to Sandy Hook, I'm sure they'll explain to the citizens of their state EXACTLY how these laws would have prevented the Sandy Hook killings, right?
I mean, if they wouldn't have stopped Lanza, then this would just be naked political opportunism, wouldn't it?
“I’m very excited about it.”
The jerk. I hope he gets primaried out.
“I’d like to know how some brainiac came up with seven rounds as a limit. “
That “brainiac” is smarter than you think:
That is as close to a defacto semi auto gun ban as you can have with out coming right out and saying so.
But not the PEOPLE!
Closed Door session so they can't hear what the people say.
It's an outrage that the NY State Republicans are agreeing to this rushed bill that won't do a thing for stopping incidents such as Sandy Hook. It will only try to make felons of law abiding citizens that have exercised their right to keep and bare arms.
While I suppose it is callous, I do somewhat lack sympathy for gun owners in NY state. They already put up with very onerous nonsense. To expect it to end short of outright confiscation is fantasy. I imagine some of them can’t move for various reasons, but I never even considered looking for a job in that state because of the gun laws.
I beleive this is unconstitutional on a Federal level.
I beleive this is unconstitutional on a State level as it is in violation of the State Consititution .
This is another “Ram.., ..Bam , thank you Ma’m “ emotional legislative reaction to get Cuomo higher in the Dem’s list for potential candidates for the next Presidential election.
It is a sign of leadership failure .
Jeffrey D. Klein’s Contact Information
Albany Office
Legislative Office Building, Room 304
Albany, NY 12247
United States
Phone: 518-455-3595
See map: Google Maps
District Office
1250 Waters Place, Suite 1202
Bronx, NY 10461
United States
Phone: (718) 822-2049
Fax: (718) 822-2321
See map: Google Maps
Email address: jdklein@senate.state.ny.us
Which will do absolutely NOTHING that the more than 10 thousand current state & local gun laws already on the books can't do.
But hey.....it feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeels good.
Can you elaborate? All mine hold more than 7, but you could make 7 shot magazines by plugging the bottom end. Most who have ever duck hunted have plugged their 5 shots to hold 3.
sad part is that many have already lost their guns in boating accidents
All you people out there that think "something just has to be done to help stem the violence, blah blah blah"...had just better realize this. All those prescriptions you got for Ambien, Trazadone, or Valium, ANY painkillers at all, or Ritalin for your kids - anything that makes you drowsy, changes your mood, metabolism (e.g., diet pills) ARE going to be logged into Obama's ACA (AKA ObamaCare) medical database, and these freedom-taking bastards will disqualify you for Guns, and likely for many other things they find out they don't like.
You have been warned!
Seeing as the Gestapo in the federal government use the interstate commerce clause to twist and distort the constitution at every turn then tell me why this ban is not a direct affront to interstate commerce?
Just ran into our local NRA rep in town and he told me that inside sources say that Cuomo’s bill is going to limit folks to 10 guns.
Waiting for his email and will post link when received.
1) If it passes, they effectively ban semi-autos, only revolvers.
2) They can look like heroes by “compromising” from 7 to 10 round mags and therefore paint opponents as crazy and intransigent. (Ten rounds is probably where they wanted to be in the first place.)
...closed door negotiations....
taking way rights under the guise of legitimate legislation, behind closed doors, away from prying eyes...
Yeah, I have some sympathy for those who are tied down. Not much you can do about it. Especially since the whole damn state is mostly controlled by one corrupt city.
I certainly would be in the boating accident crowd were I in your shoes.
I remember hearing about lots and lots of Canadians from the more rural areas who had boating accidents en masse as well.
probably thinking about wheel gun limits...5,6,7...because obviously 10 you’d never, ever ever use. you’ll nver face off against a’coked up muscle freak, youll never ever go up against home’invaderd wearing armor, you’ll never have multiple attackers come after you - they even say this as a guarantee by the state of NY and you can sue them if it happens - oh wait, they didn’t say that, and you can’t sue NY if these scenarios happen and your 7 rounds aren’t enough.
Nothing like "government in the sunshine, eh?
You know, it just might be possible to divide this country along state boundaries again, after all...
New York has that covered as well in that the failure to promptly report a lost or stolen firearm is a misdemeanor.
Does that mean they are going to dredge the lake if you report the gun accidentally lost in it?
No, but if you are late found in possession of a lost or stolen firearm, them may prosecute you for (a) filing a false report; and (b) possession of a lost or stolen firearm.
True, but I imagine that you’re probably already in trouble if they’re able to search your premises like that.
Deal brokered by state's criminals, exempts them
NY Has Tentative Deal on Gun Control
Restricts Assault Weapons, Limits Magazine Size
Call your NY representatives. They are meeting behind closed doors and don’t sound like they are going to abide by the three day rule for posting a bill before voting on it!
Ok then. I’m cancelling next summer’s planned trip to NY, and will be instating a personal boycott of NY products and service providers. Maybe I’ll spend my vacation dollars in Texas.
From thirty to ten to “five or six” to three to one to NONE!
Bloomberg Blasts NRA: ‘Connecticut Is Because of Some of Their Actions’
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But if he had his preference, Bloomberg said he would go farther than the 1994 ban and outlaw all automatic and semi-automatic weapons and high-capacity magazines. The mayor said magazines shouldn’t be allowed to contain more than five or six rounds.
“If you haven’t hit the deer with three shots, you’re a pretty lousy shot. The deer deserves to get away,” he said....
link: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bloomberg-blasts-nra-connecticut-actions/story?id=18029157
My standard mag for 1911 45 ACP is 7 + 1.
the 5 judges who ruled for the 2nd amendment as an individual right are still sitting on the court.
Sounds like the Republicans are doing what they usually do in a situation like this: Shooting owners in the back.
Make that gun owners. (Stupid keyboard.)
Actually, mayor, we save our ‘high capacity mags’ for the dope-dealing NYC, Philly and Boston gang-banging thugs visiting our little state. If you could keep them on home-turf we could stop sending them back in pine boxes.
New York City government loves criminals. New York City government protects criminals. New York City government is a friend to murderers, rapists, robbers, and burglars. New York City government ... Mayor, City Council, Police Chief, on down to the lowliest beat patrolman, should be on trial as accessory before and after the fact to every murder, rape, assault, robbery, and burglary committed in the City.
My ancestors came from Pennsylvania, a mere 49 miles away!
The guy selling revolvers that hold 7, 8, 9 and 10 rounds. You can get 7-8 rounds of .357 in a revolver, 9-10 of .22 long rifle. If this passes, I predict everyone in NY will be going back to the good old .45. Last bill limiting size of magazines breathed new life into the .45 and this should help even more.
If any of you had questions on cuomos '16 run - this should answer things.....
That said, I'm off to the carolinas when my wifes folks pass on - we will just keep the property and use it as a summer place....as of today - Im sick of the place
I love your optimism though
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